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07-19-2009 11:44 AM
Schmo
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
I got 33s, not 31s, does it matter?
A 1" BL might be enough to clear the 33's if you are not disconnecting or flexing much. Just depends on where you go and how you run. I've got a 4" suspension lift wiht 33's which is what is recommended, and I'll still rub my flares when I'm really flexed out. Most folks I know that are looking to clear 33's on the cheap will throw a 1" BL and a 2" budget boost suspension lift which basically gives you spacers for above the coils and longer shocks. That set up works well for both on and offroad with 33's and provides ample clearance. I'd say give it a try with a 1 or 1.25" BL and if you need a bit more, pick up a budget boost for a couple hundred bucks and you'll be all set. The budget boost might be a bit more labor intensive than the BL, but can be done in a few hours with basic shop tools (most auto parts places will let you borrow or rent the tools you may not have like spring compressors to make it easier), beer, and a buddy.
07-19-2009 06:34 AM
islandmonkey I got 33s, not 31s, does it matter?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmo View Post
Now you're coming around!!!

You'll need one like this for a TJ:
Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: Body Lifts
The JKS is 1.25", but you can find plenty of straight 1" BLs as well.

Not only will the one inch give you enough room to run 31s easily and possibly bigger if you don't plan to disconnect or do much flexing, but it will look a hell of a lot better, lower your COG, increase your gas milage, remove stress off the bolts, and eliminate the snicker factor . . . regardless of what mlt503 says, it's not just the "liberal weenies" that would snicker!!! If you get a 1" BL, it'll come with detailed instructions and the only difference is you'll take out the 3" spacer and replace it with the 1" new spacer. Basic shop tools, some beer, a buddy, and an afternoon and you'll be set.
07-19-2009 02:28 AM
mlt503
These guys are right,

you probably wouldn't have the equipment to mount your own tires.
I went to a Goodyear shop to have my brand new ones mounted, wasn't a problem for them. For mounting, balancing and installing on my car they charged about $100.
I was a happy boy to finally see my "new" 12 yr old Jeep with new sneakers!
07-18-2009 08:55 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
you said WILL notice it, I am not a show off, and dont have to expain nothing to anyone.. My family and lifestyle matters.
Hey,
if you like it, buy it man.
You're the one that has to drive it.
It's a nice looking Jeep.

As for the BL:
Yeah, it is very noticable.
Not that it's a horrific thing, but very easy to spot, that's all.
It has nothing to do with being a "show off".
You asked for opinions, and I gave mine.
07-18-2009 08:10 PM
njkeagle
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
Sounds great!

I got a pretty common question here: Lot of people buy tires online, what if you do not have the equipment?? How do you get them installed? Anyone at home can do it??
I got 5 33x12.50 TrXus from National Tire And Wheels and they came home mounted and balanced. in like 3 -5 days. All you have to do it just put them on.
07-18-2009 07:34 PM
Schmo
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
So is this adequate and decent for 1" BL?
Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: Body Lifts

Where do you guys think I can get some detailed instructions on removing the 3" ones and putting 1" ones? I won't do it immediately but info is always important

Thank you
Now you're coming around!!!

You'll need one like this for a TJ:
Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: Body Lifts
The JKS is 1.25", but you can find plenty of straight 1" BLs as well.

Not only will the one inch give you enough room to run 31s easily and possibly bigger if you don't plan to disconnect or do much flexing, but it will look a hell of a lot better, lower your COG, increase your gas milage, remove stress off the bolts, and eliminate the snicker factor . . . regardless of what mlt503 says, it's not just the "liberal weenies" that would snicker!!! If you get a 1" BL, it'll come with detailed instructions and the only difference is you'll take out the 3" spacer and replace it with the 1" new spacer. Basic shop tools, some beer, a buddy, and an afternoon and you'll be set.
07-18-2009 03:40 PM
Ericl 6,800 hmmm... I bought my 1inch lift 97 tj with 128,000 miles (with over 800$ in parts including a new clutch (not including labor)) for 3,000$.

However yours has much better bodywork than mine. I spent around 200$ for paint and tools and exterior parts and now it looks brand new. Only thing is that the color, some people say it's girly (discontinued bright jade metallic/teal) but I think it's unique.
07-18-2009 01:08 PM
J33P You can't install your own tires in your garage, you need a special machine. A local tire shop will install whatever tires you have, or at least they should for a fee.
07-18-2009 12:52 PM
islandmonkey So is this adequate and decent for 1" BL?
Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: Body Lifts

Where do you guys think I can get some detailed instructions on removing the 3" ones and putting 1" ones? I won't do it immediately but info is always important

Thank you
07-18-2009 12:33 PM
islandmonkey Sounds great!

I got a pretty common question here: Lot of people buy tires online, what if you do not have the equipment?? How do you get them installed? Anyone at home can do it??

Cause local tire stores would wanna sell their own product, would they just charge you for installation? I am very curious

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlt503 View Post
Before I bought new tires I did some research and found a site called: tirecrawler.com in California.
I bought 4 35x12.50 Goodrich KM2 tires (for 15" wheels) and paid $705 and that included the delivery charge.
Call 1-888-396-5261 and talk to Denny Allen. He's a good guy and very helpful.
They were delivered in 3 days (I hated waiting) and I've been driving on them for 2 wks and they are great!
Just my 2c worth.
Good luck,
Mark
07-18-2009 11:39 AM
mlt503
Great place for tires

Before I bought new tires I did some research and found a site called: tirecrawler.com in California.
I bought 4 35x12.50 Goodrich KM2 tires (for 15" wheels) and paid $705 and that included the delivery charge.
Call 1-888-396-5261 and talk to Denny Allen. He's a good guy and very helpful.
They were delivered in 3 days (I hated waiting) and I've been driving on them for 2 wks and they are great!
Just my 2c worth.
Good luck,
Mark
07-18-2009 11:36 AM
neo
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
2000, 122k miles, eveything works, +bigger tires, +big flares, etc... for $6800

So, it is not safe? What is the difference between those lifts, cause I am not meesing with unlifting or lifting, I do not wanna buy hassle at all.

I wil of course listen to other owners too.... Maybe it is not that bad, but I drove it dude, loved it.. If it is really bad news, i will be sad..
3 in body lift are safe.but 2 inch or 1 inch body lifts look betterneo
07-18-2009 10:12 AM
Loic no, locally, last time i also changes the tires on the discovery and at that time it was buy 3 get the 4th free. also because it's the big o brand it comes with road hasard warranty for 3 years (i think 3).
i used to leave in marietta GA but dont recall seeing the Big o tire place there. check their website.
07-18-2009 09:33 AM
islandmonkey Did you get them online? if yes, where?


Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loic View Post
fyi, i just changed the tires on my jeep, 4 tires 31" Big O all terrain, $700 with $100 discount.
07-18-2009 09:14 AM
Loic fyi, i just changed the tires on my jeep, 4 tires 31" Big O all terrain, $700 with $100 discount.
07-18-2009 06:55 AM
islandmonkey I did test drove it, i liked it. Carfaxed it too. Thank you for the info. It is much appreciated.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mlt503 View Post
Hey IslandMonkey, I've driven a '93 Wrangler with a 3" body lift and it drove just great until I sold it 80k miles later. This thing took me all over the country without breathing hard, mind you I drove "sensibly."
I just bought a '97 TJ Sahara (looks like yours, only in White) - it had a 2" Body Lift on it and I added an extra 3" Teraflex Lift Kit. Put 35" tires (from Tirecrawler.com, what a great place) and it rides and handles fantastic.
The only comments I get on it are good!!!
No one and I mean NO ONE will look at your great Jeep and snicker - no one (except the liberal weenies who think you're hurting the "environment).
If the rest of the underside looks as good as the pictures show, looks pretty good for 122k miles. Test drive it and good luck. And DON'T forget to get a Carfax too! They are not definitive, but they'll help you make the right decision.
Good Luck bud
Mark

PS
The point about too much lift is valid to a point, in my case I can't expect to rough up my Jeep but then it's just for looks for me.
07-18-2009 12:36 AM
mlt503
If you like it, then buy it!

Hey IslandMonkey, I've driven a '93 Wrangler with a 3" body lift and it drove just great until I sold it 80k miles later. This thing took me all over the country without breathing hard, mind you I drove "sensibly."
I just bought a '97 TJ Sahara (looks like yours, only in White) - it had a 2" Body Lift on it and I added an extra 3" Teraflex Lift Kit. Put 35" tires (from Tirecrawler.com, what a great place) and it rides and handles fantastic.
The only comments I get on it are good!!!
No one and I mean NO ONE will look at your great Jeep and snicker - no one (except the liberal weenies who think you're hurting the "environment).
If the rest of the underside looks as good as the pictures show, looks pretty good for 122k miles. Test drive it and good luck. And DON'T forget to get a Carfax too! They are not definitive, but they'll help you make the right decision.
Good Luck bud
Mark

PS
The point about too much lift is valid to a point, in my case I can't expect to rough up my Jeep but then it's just for looks for me.
07-17-2009 10:48 PM
stevens243 Infernogirl is right. If you don't take it offroad and expect it to perform well on the trail, it'll do.

Personally, I'd get rid of that BL lift first damn thing, but hey, that's just me.

If all else is well, go for it.
07-17-2009 08:47 PM
islandmonkey i dont have a single 4wheeler friend, i must be in ok shape then....

I believe I can easily remove the BL later, and probably install something different for solid look. (to me it looks solid anyways).
I did not driv eit more then 4 miles, it was shifting great, and the giuy is local for 20+ years, this is very small community.

I feel ok about this. All of you were awesome for your sincere help. I appreciate it. Keep them coming

Quote:
Originally Posted by InfernoGirl View Post
If you aren't going to be hanging out with a bunch of 4 wheelin' snobby types then it won't matter....

I would consider removing it for the sake of the bolt stress, not to far down the road, maybe replace it with a smaller lift, drive it, love it, and it will love you back!
07-17-2009 08:38 PM
InfernoGirl If you aren't going to be hanging out with a bunch of 4 wheelin' snobby types then it won't matter....

I would consider removing it for the sake of the bolt stress, not to far down the road, maybe replace it with a smaller lift, drive it, love it, and it will love you back!
07-17-2009 08:02 PM
islandmonkey It is time sensitive.... Let see....
I have been looking for the right Jeep for 8-9 days since my crash, looked @ ebay, autotrader, local dealers. Could not find it at any local dealers, ebay and trader: I gotta test drive, and feel the vehicle, I dont have luxury to fly and come back for test drive, also shipping charges.

So 3 or 4 days ago after seeing all dealers, i decided to look at local ace parking lot (ppl have been selling cars there, local ppl)
Saw it, called the number on it, he showed up for me to test it, my kids and wife rode it, wife drove it as well, all of us liked the way it looks and all. I negotiated for the past 3-4 days, almost sealed the deal for tomorrow.

The catch is, I just found out about body lift today, it looks like Jeep will still serve my purpose.. So...

What do you guys think?
Should I dump it just because BL?
you said WILL notice it, I am not a show off, and dont have to expain nothing to anyone.. My family and lifestyle matters.





Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
Umm....yeah, most people will notice.
No, it's not a reason to back out of a deal because the BL can be removed.
But it kinda sounds like you're dead set on buying it anyways.

If you don't intend to offroad at all,
and you don't intend to lift it or dump the BL,
why not just buy a stock TJ that someone hasn't messed with?
(Mickey-Moused)
Just a little more peace of mind IMO.
07-17-2009 06:32 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
I don't think everyone will notice, second, i don't think it is a reason to back out of a deal.. What do you think?
Umm....yeah, most people will notice.
No, it's not a reason to back out of a deal because the BL can be removed.
But it kinda sounds like you're dead set on buying it anyways.

If you don't intend to offroad at all,
and you don't intend to lift it or dump the BL,
why not just buy a stock TJ that someone hasn't messed with?
(Mickey-Moused)
Just a little more peace of mind IMO.
07-17-2009 03:25 PM
Levinoss
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
I don't think everyone will notice, second, i don't think it is sa reason to back out of a deal.. What do you think?
You can remove the body lift it aint that big of a deal.
07-17-2009 03:23 PM
islandmonkey I don't think everyone will notice, second, i don't think it is a reason to back out of a deal.. What do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levinoss View Post
Yea, lots of body lift is like a guy wearing high heels it just aint right.
07-17-2009 03:04 PM
Levinoss
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
Snickering?
Make fun??
Yea, lots of body lift is like a guy wearing high heels it just aint right.
07-17-2009 02:54 PM
islandmonkey Very helpful, thank you


Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
If you like the jeep buy. Just understand that down the road the body lift might present some issues for you depending how you wish to use the Jeep. I would however check the following area's.
1. Gas filler lines to tank
2. AC lines if it has AC of course
3. Radiator shroud
4. Steering shaft joint area

Those are things that are affected with going with a larger body lift and can be trouble if not done correctly.
07-17-2009 02:43 PM
islandmonkey
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmo View Post
Really you should smack the current owner upside the head for being an idiot and have him knock off the price whatever the hassle of removing the BL is worth to you!
Sale price was $7800, he already went down to $800 and $200 for worn tires, I don't know man.......

Can anyone direct me to the right direction if I happen to want to remove the lift with pictures instruction???

Thanks
07-17-2009 02:37 PM
islandmonkey Snickering?
Make fun??






Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmo View Post
but also due to all the snickering that will be done by other Jeep owners when they see it
07-17-2009 02:34 PM
islandmonkey You sound like it is very easy. Is it?

I have to say this again, i am not of-roader or will off road any time soon.
I might test it few spots but, it will be daily driver and fishing, hunting, boat pulling machine......

Will i be able to do all that with these lift thingys???

Thank you


Quote:
Originally Posted by stevens243 View Post
replace them with 1" pucks and add a 3-4" suspension lift (many great ones out there) and be good to go.
07-17-2009 01:39 PM
Schmo
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
2000, 122k miles, eveything works, +bigger tires, +big flares, etc... for $6800

So, it is not safe? What is the difference between those lifts, cause I am not meesing with unlifting or lifting, I do not wanna buy hassle at all.

I wil of course listen to other owners too.... Maybe it is not that bad, but I drove it dude, loved it.. If it is really bad news, i will be sad..

Personally I wouldn't drive a Jeep with a 3 inch Body Lift . . . not only for the safety reasons, but also due to all the snickering that will be done by other Jeep owners when they see it You could check the areas mentioned above and remove the BL, not a big deal at all, but it wouldn't be hassle free.

Really you should smack the current owner upside the head for being an idiot and have him knock off the price whatever the hassle of removing the BL is worth to you!
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