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08-08-2009 12:05 AM
gunner_bob Solution found! Wiring problem fixed

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I had the following problems, and after 4 days of extensive searching for grounded wires, and replacing electrical parts (headlight switch), I finally found what was causing the problem (blowing fuze #1 also).

I HAD the following problems:
1) Dashlights out
2) Foglights out
3) Parking lights out

I removed and replaced the headlight switch...still had problem. I then removed the plug on the back of the switch and took some readings. After many views of the wiring diagram, voltage and continuity checks, I found a wire (black with a yellow stripe) that showed "grounded or shorted". I removed the aftermarket radio and found that wire was shorting against the back of the radio support bracket (metal). As soon as I repaired the wire and put a new fuze in, VOULLA!!! Lights everywhere....that one little wire apparently sends a signal to the stock radio for night time illumination. However, if shorted you lose dash lights, fog lights and parking lights. I have seen many threads of jeep owners losing the same lighting, and if they have an aftermarket radio installed, I WOULD DEFINATELY check this wire. From the fuzebox, exterior lighting leaves on a brown with black stripe wire and goes to headlight switch. When the switch is pulled out, voltage then gets transferred from the brown/black stripe wire over to the black with yellow stripe wire which makes illumination happen. Lots of coorelation here, that is not really showed in the wiring diagram. I was lucky to find it and I wanted everyone to know what to look for if they have similar problems.

Chalk one up for the HOME MECHANIC!!!
Cheers!!!!!!!!!
07-18-2009 12:19 PM
mlt503
Maybe a '99 schematic would help???

I bought a '97 Sahara a few wks ago and am into wiring problems too (by the previous owner).
I was able to find a wiring diagram for a '99 - maybe this will help you?
It's in PDF format and I can't attach it here but if you email me at: mlt503@cox.net I will send it to you.
The ultimate best source would be a factory manual but maybe this will get you by for now.
Good luck,
Mark
07-16-2009 10:13 AM
gunner_bob
Anyone have this problem before????????

Just wondering if someone out there has had the same problem I am having... No dash or instrument lights, fog lights do not work, and no parking lights/running lights. All stopped working together....WHAT COULD IT BE? #1 Fuse keeps poping when I pull the headlight switch out...Could it be the swtich is shorted out??? Anyone ever have a headlight switch problem before??? HELP!!!!!!
07-16-2009 08:36 AM
gunner_bob Oh, forgot to mention my dashlights still do not work (illumination for gauges)...BTW, ALL the warning indicators in the dash and high beam indicator work fine. The foglights and light indicator on the foglight switch do not work. My backup lights, rear defogger, and rear wipers work ok....
I still do not have parking/running lights. Everything else seems to work fine.
07-16-2009 08:31 AM
gunner_bob Jerry,
Checked all the wiring again last night...disconnected the tow lighting assembly wires from the diodes. Put a new fuze in #1 holder, pulled the headlight switch to the parking light position (one click out) and it poped the fuze again. I am at the end of my rope...need some thought here. Hey, is it possible for the headlight switch to be bad or shorted? Is there a history of jeeps with bad headlight switches? I found the hot wire for #1 fuze at the headlight switch plug...Its brown with black stripe. I can put a new fuze in without blowing the fuze when the plug is disconnected and I can read voltage at the headlight switch plug. Once I connect the plug to the switch and try to turn on parking lamps, the #1 fuze blows. According to the wiring diagram, that switch gets signals from #1, 3, and 10 fuzes... 3 & 10 are ok and do not blow.
Does anyone have an idea, or a similar problem that they repaired so I can get this solved? ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!
07-15-2009 02:52 PM
gunner_bob Thanks for the advice. I will let you know what I find out if I get things figured out.
07-15-2009 02:41 PM
Jerry Bransford Without knowing how it is wired up, it's really hard to know. Personally, I'd yank out all of his wiring and return it to stock. I doubt he actually cut any of the OE wiring, he probably just spliced into it. The small electrical gadgets are probably diodes that restrict electrical flow to just one direction but that's just a guess.
07-15-2009 02:26 PM
gunner_bob
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Such problems are usually simply a result of the previous owner having done a crappy job wiring in a harness like that. I would trace every inch of every wire he added, particularly his splices, and use a microscope (not literally but you know what I mean) to find where his wiring (likely) is shorting to ground. Do that and you'll likely find your short. I'm an electrical/electronics kind of guy and some of the wiring I've seen installed by Jeep owners over the years was nothing short of scary.
Jerry,
Thanks for the quick reply to my problem. I will check his work, but do you think there is a way to unplug or disconnect the power lead going to the plug so I can check to see if the #1 fuze will not blow? I looked over some of his wiring last night and the front fenders and bumper wiring job looks ok, but up behind the rear fenders, under the bumper there are alot of wires with the typical tape job, and the 2 small electrical devices on each side (4 total) that have wires attached to them by connectors (part of the towing kit?) Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
Sincerely,
gunner_bob
07-15-2009 02:04 PM
Jerry Bransford Such problems are usually simply a result of the previous owner having done a crappy job wiring in a harness like that. I would trace every inch of every wire he added, particularly his splices, and use a microscope (not literally but you know what I mean) to find where his wiring (likely) is shorting to ground. Do that and you'll likely find your short. I'm an electrical/electronics kind of guy and some of the wiring I've seen installed by Jeep owners over the years was nothing short of scary.
07-15-2009 01:08 PM
gunner_bob
Wiring problem-#1 fuze blown 2000 WRANGLER SPORT TJ

Wondering if anyone can help me out. My problem on my 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sport TJ happened all at once....here are the symptoms. Oh, BTW the previous owner installed a 4 pin plug in the front bumper for towing so the running lights/brake lights will work while towing. I did install a new radio and speakers, but I was careful during the install and I don't think that could have created my problem.
Here are my symptoms....

1) No Parking lights, No Dash Lights, No Fog Lights...
2) #1 Fuze keeps blowing when headlight switch is pulled out to parking lights (short somewhere....)
3) The dome light works when I turn the headlight knob.

Any idea what may be causing the #1 fuze to keep blowing? Any ideas where to check for shorts or grounds?

ANYONE HAVE A LINK TO A WIRING DIAMGRAM TO HELP ME OUT????

THANKS GUYS....I NEED HELP!!!!

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