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09-13-2013 01:56 PM
rkwfxd Too bad too. I would love to stretch my WB a couple of inches but not willing to make the clearance needed to to it.
09-13-2013 01:32 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd View Post
Mine didn't. It only cleared by about an inch or so. And now with the pinion angled up the axle side trackbar mount has pretty much zero room to go back before it hits the skid.
Well...it looks like that idea is out the window..lol
09-13-2013 01:19 PM
rkwfxd
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Originally Posted by WOKNROX View Post
Well that depends....your axle cleared the tank by a couple of inches when is was stock..(before it was lifted) and then when you put the lift on...say a 4" lift....your rear axle moved forward an inch or so...I think you'd be gtg as long as you don't have a huge diff cover hanging off the back.
Mine didn't. It only cleared by about an inch or so. And now with the pinion angled up the axle side trackbar mount has pretty much zero room to go back before it hits the skid.
09-13-2013 01:15 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd View Post
I dont really think that would work. Once the suspension compresses the rear diff is going to hit the tank skid unless you make additional mods.
Well that depends....your axle cleared the tank by a couple of inches when is was stock..(before it was lifted) and then when you put the lift on...say a 4" lift....your rear axle moved forward an inch or so...I think you'd be gtg as long as you don't have a huge diff cover hanging off the back.
09-13-2013 01:05 PM
rkwfxd
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Originally Posted by WOKNROX View Post
I would imagine that by moving the lower arms up from the bottom to the front of the axle it would give you 2 or 3 inches on your wheelbase.... that would be great a way for someone running a lifted Tj to gain back the wheelbase lost by the lift....
Just thinking out loud here.
I dont really think that would work. Once the suspension compresses the rear diff is going to hit the tank skid unless you make additional mods.
09-13-2013 12:29 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by DTM View Post
That it will (change the geometry). Are you sill using stock (short) control arms?
I would imagine that by moving the lower arms up from the bottom to the front of the axle it would give you 2 or 3 inches on your wheelbase.... that would be great a way for someone running a lifted Tj to gain back the wheelbase lost by the lift....
Just thinking out loud here.
09-13-2013 10:24 AM
DTM
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Originally Posted by aw12345 View Post
It changes the geometry of the rear suspension arms. It works did my yellow Jeep and most definitely hooks the rear tires better

Saweet
That it will (change the geometry). Are you sill using stock (short) control arms?
09-12-2013 10:22 PM
rkwfxd OUCH! Antenna topper looks great though.
09-12-2013 08:30 PM
aw12345
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Originally Posted by DTM View Post
How will raising the control arms mounts on the axle help eliminate tire hopping???
It changes the geometry of the rear suspension arms. It works did my yellow Jeep and most definitely hooks the rear tires better

Saweet
09-12-2013 08:27 PM
I H8RDS Wrenching my jeep today.. Putting on new hood latches.
Attachment 340569


And the last mod for my Joanzie for now. Sunshine is currently on my stereo antenna but will be moving her to the rear!

Attachment 340577



Attachment 340585
09-12-2013 01:43 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by BillG.OTD View Post
Yeah I do Steve front and rear. I just meant I would like a HP and for me I couldn't use a Hp 30, it would need to be a 44.
You have 37s now and I have 35s, I would think 5.89 would be too low for me....I was even considering 5.13 but that's not much of a leap from 4.88
Yeah I got ya....I was saying the if you go to 513s with your aw-4 automatic you'd be back to what you had when your jeep had the stick and 488s. So if that was still a little to high geared for you ...you might think about some 538s.
09-12-2013 01:27 PM
BillG.OTD
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Originally Posted by WOKNROX View Post

I thought you already had a 44?
I ran 538s when I had the 5speed....I'm running 589s now with the aw-4 automatic.. that put the jeep back to what it was with the stick.
Yeah I do Steve front and rear. I just meant I would like a HP and for me I couldn't use a Hp 30, it would need to be a 44.
You have 37s now and I have 35s, I would think 5.89 would be too low for me....I was even considering 5.13 but that's not much of a leap from 4.88
09-12-2013 12:58 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by BillG.OTD View Post
I believe that the carrier break is also at 4.88 Rich. If your running a manual you may be okay. I have the AW4 (auto) with 4.88s and want to go 5.13 or 5.38 so I will be looking for a HP44.
I thought you already had a 44?
I ran 538s when I had the 5speed....I'm running 589s now with the aw-4 automatic.. that put the jeep back to what it was with the stick.
09-12-2013 09:49 AM
DTM
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Originally Posted by aw12345 View Post
I think it was pre 96 that had the HP housing, don't really know which years had the axle disconnects, just go visit ecology and picka part. Not that hard to see what you want, don't worry about anything but the bare housing.
It's kinda hard to raise the front mounts up unless you alter the spring seats. The control arm will hit those at full droop when you raise the mount up, I have done it on a TJ. Still that mod has the most value in the rear helps to largely eliminate tire hopping in the rear also nice to have more clearance under the rear axle tubes, less stuff to hang up on rocks that and outboarding the shocks and rasing the axle side shock mount up is a nice mod
How will raising the control arms mounts on the axle help eliminate tire hopping???
09-12-2013 08:58 AM
I H8RDS Guess he'll see it first after all Scottie! See though....if you were making my Big Bear run, you'd be in the loop too
09-12-2013 08:54 AM
rkwfxd
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Originally Posted by I H8RDS View Post
I am bummed about my last little mod to my Jeep. Maybe I'll bring it to Big Bear next Friday. I'm sure you'll have some off the wall solution!
Funny you should mention that. I was actually thinking about it on the way to work this morning. Can you txt me a photo of it? Maybe the link too?

Im sure we can figure something out.
09-12-2013 08:16 AM
I H8RDS
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd View Post
I too am already running 4.88s so the carrier would not be an issue. Just need to go hunt for that housing now. Thanks.
I am bummed about my last little mod to my Jeep. Maybe I'll bring it to Big Bear next Friday. I'm sure you'll have some off the wall solution!
09-12-2013 07:53 AM
rkwfxd I too am already running 4.88s so the carrier would not be an issue. Just need to go hunt for that housing now. Thanks.
09-12-2013 05:53 AM
I H8RDS *Noted*

I won't be going any lower than 4.88s as a DD.
09-12-2013 12:36 AM
aw12345
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Originally Posted by BillG.OTD View Post
Maybe I said that wrong, the lowest gear she can run in the 30 is 4.88 which is what she is running now.
You are absolutely right. Want 5.13's or 5.38' you need a different axle
09-12-2013 12:24 AM
BillG.OTD
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Originally Posted by aw12345 View Post
Nope carrier break for a HP 30 is at 3.55. same as a low pinion D 30
D 44 is at 4.10
Maybe I said that wrong, the lowest gear she can run in the 30 is 4.88 which is what she is running now.
09-11-2013 10:51 PM
aw12345
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd View Post
so a hp d30 from a 1991-2000 xj
will work w all my 2004 lp d30 stuff except for the gears.
Yes
09-11-2013 10:50 PM
aw12345
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Originally Posted by BillG.OTD View Post
I believe that the carrier break is also at 4.88 Rich. If your running a manual you may be okay. I have the AW4 (auto) with 4.88s and want to go 5.13 or 5.38 so I will be looking for a HP44.
Nope carrier break for a HP 30 is at 3.55. same as a low pinion D 30
D 44 is at 4.10
09-11-2013 10:01 PM
BillG.OTD
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd View Post
so a hp d30 from a 1991-2000 xj
will work w all my 2004 lp d30 stuff except for the gears.
I believe that the carrier break is also at 4.88 Rich. If your running a manual you may be okay. I have the AW4 (auto) with 4.88s and want to go 5.13 or 5.38 so I will be looking for a HP44.
09-11-2013 09:41 PM
rkwfxd so a hp d30 from a 1991-2000 xj
will work w all my 2004 lp d30 stuff except for the gears.
09-11-2013 08:27 PM
aw12345
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Originally Posted by WOKNROX View Post
You will find the High Pinion NO CAD Dana 30 in Xj's starting in 1991 through 2000.
Another thing to look out for is I have come across some d30 (Xj/Tj) having a different Unit bearing (thicker) resulting in different stub axle lengths
SteveO.
97 tj has the different rotors and different unit bearings. Hence I said just get the housing everything will swap over minus the gears.
How did your Dusy trip go Steve? Spend a few days there last week was fun
09-11-2013 07:50 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by aw12345 View Post
I think it was pre 96 that had the HP housing, don't really know which years had the axle disconnects, just go visit ecology and picka part. Not that hard to see what you want, don't worry about anything but the bare housing.
It's kinda hard to raise the front mounts up unless you alter the spring seats. The control arm will hit those at full droop when you raise the mount up, I have done it on a TJ. Still that mod has the most value in the rear helps to largely eliminate tire hopping in the rear also nice to have more clearance under the rear axle tubes, less stuff to hang up on rocks that and outboarding the shocks and rasing the axle side shock mount up is a nice mod
You will find the High Pinion NO CAD Dana 30 in Xj's starting in 1991 through 2000.
Another thing to look out for is I have come across some d30 (Xj/Tj) having a different Unit bearing (thicker) resulting in different stub axle lengths
SteveO.
09-11-2013 06:58 PM
rkwfxd
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Originally Posted by Sccafire View Post
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy no favorites lol


OH man if you only knew.

I am DEFINITELY not a favorite.

09-11-2013 06:55 PM
I H8RDS
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Originally Posted by Sccafire View Post
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy no favorites lol
No no Scottie...no favorites. That's not what it's about. Promise

I'm not really sure how I'm going to make it work.. Grrr May need some male engineering. That means it could be another couple weeks before I get it figured out. I'll bring it to work and see if any of my Seabee guys have an idea. If I attempt it, I'll probably destroy it.
09-11-2013 06:43 PM
Sccafire Heyyyyyyyyyyyy no favorites lol
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