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09-15-2013 03:33 PM
harleydragon
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Originally Posted by bajajohn View Post
When I did the 55 I lived in the Sierras up above Sacramento Ca. I called a buddy to bring me some Firewood and he said come get it and I told him I couldn't. So he loaded it and brought it to me. There sat my Willis with a 2200 dlr. acrylic lacquer paint job. His only comment was you Shure fu////ed up a perfectly good Stump Puller.
I always liked those trucks..my son had one with a flatbed.it had a huge winch mounted in the middle of the bed. he almost flipped it over a couple of times when he would get stuck in the woods and couldn't hook to a tree pretty much straight behind it.....there is a dude in Montana that is on the tv show mountain men that has a sweet old willys truck too
09-15-2013 02:08 PM
bajajohn
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
I can relate to that..My first one was a bare frame up 50 willys jeep..bought an entire truck load of new,old willys parts so it was tight as new when finished.Of course I put a 327 in it and did a spring over plus a home made body lift to clear the 38 inch ground hawgs.Top end still wasn't all that with the 5.38 gears but that old jeep would go anywhere..


When I did the 55 I lived in the Sierras up above Sacramento Ca. I called a buddy to bring me some Firewood and he said come get it and I told him I couldn't. So he loaded it and brought it to me. There sat my Willis with a 2200 dlr. acrylic lacquer paint job. His only comment was you Shure fu////ed up a perfectly good Stump Puller.
09-15-2013 01:57 PM
harleydragon
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Originally Posted by bajajohn View Post
Yeah it was really good duty, it was learning and teaching experience for me and as you said the extra change wasn't bad. but the best part was the promoting in grade that went with the job.
about 1990 I was off work for a while with a injury to keep occupied I bought a 1955 Willis Pickup and did a complete frame off restoration I was hooked on jeeps after that. I got more enjoyment looking for parts and talking to old farts like me than I did actually working on the jeep
I can relate to that..My first one was a bare frame up 50 willys jeep..bought an entire truck load of new,old willys parts so it was tight as new when finished.Of course I put a 327 in it and did a spring over plus a home made body lift to clear the 38 inch ground hawgs.Top end still wasn't all that with the 5.38 gears but that old jeep would go anywhere..
09-15-2013 01:42 PM
bajajohn
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
I made a good bit of extra money painting cars at the hobby shop




Yeah it was really good duty, it was learning and teaching experience for me and as you said the extra change wasn't bad. but the best part was the promoting in grade that went with the job.
about 1990 I was off work for a while with a injury to keep occupied I bought a 1955 Willis Pickup and did a complete frame off restoration I was hooked on jeeps after that. I got more enjoyment looking for parts and talking to old farts like me than I did actually working on the jeep
09-15-2013 01:20 PM
harleydragon
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Originally Posted by bajajohn View Post
When I was in the Army my C.O. called me in and showed me my 201 file he had on his desk and asked if it was true I had Cabinet Building Experience. My answer was affirmative. He then said you are my new Hobby shop Director. Best job I ever had in the Army.
This was Before the Civil war I was in from 58 to 62.
I made a good bit of extra money painting cars at the hobby shop
09-15-2013 01:06 PM
bajajohn
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Originally Posted by 87 Florida YJ View Post
Nam my ass....it was when you went in at the end of the Civil War

When I was in the Army my C.O. called me in and showed me my 201 file he had on his desk and asked if it was true I had Cabinet Building Experience. My answer was affirmative. He then said you are my new Hobby shop Director. Best job I ever had in the Army.
This was Before the Civil war I was in from 58 to 62.
08-30-2013 05:29 AM
BDK
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Originally Posted by LeatherneckYJ View Post
My "rustoleum $50 roll-on paint job"

this is one of the links I am looking at... I guess I will just have to trust in the techniques and hope for the best. I guess at the end of the day, worst case scenario is I am out 50 bucks and have sanded my rig down for a traditional paint job.
I am a lazy ass when it comes to painting! My 74 Scout II got a murder black rattle can job, my 90 YJ got a OD green rattle can and my 95 YJ might get the same!

You might be able to see my old Scout rolling around in San Clemente!
08-29-2013 09:28 PM
yjkid95 I like it. Ill have to try this when I get some small projects done with mine.
08-29-2013 08:51 AM
harleydragon
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Originally Posted by 89Saharagreen View Post


Good Job for a Marine

NAVY CHIEFS! NAVY PRIDE!
now the roll on paint job makes sense
08-29-2013 08:32 AM
89Saharagreen For 50 and some time and effort that looks damn good!

hell the education alone on painting was worth the coin.

Good Job for a Marine

NAVY CHIEFS! NAVY PRIDE!
08-29-2013 12:44 AM
LilBlueYJ looks good to me, good job
08-28-2013 06:41 PM
simonclay Very nice. And as long as you're happy with it, that's all that matters.
08-28-2013 06:27 PM
LeatherneckYJ
Paint job complete

Well gents, I am done with this project. I still need to buff a few more times to really bring out the shine; however, I am going to let the coat harden a bit more.

Overall, I am pretty happy with it... Honestly, I did not follow to instructions to a T and melded other similar jobs together...

The first picture is a crappy pic of what it used to look like... 2 weeks later, here were are! I am truly enjoying this YJ and look forward to working on it some more.

Thanks for looking fellas!
08-27-2013 10:30 AM
LeatherneckYJ
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Originally Posted by iowncars View Post
Hey man, I think youre doing a good job...let the paint cure longer than the 24 hrs because of the humidity....if you have a heater in your garage, turn that on at night.

Like ddtt225 said, 1200-1600 grit then another coat. The dullness you have in your paint should come out after you polish at the end your paint job. Good Luck

I figured as much.... I will be working that piece as soon as I get that RMS fixed! SO much to do!
08-27-2013 10:29 AM
LeatherneckYJ
Update

These are crappy update photos, but here is where we sit right now....
08-26-2013 11:19 PM
iowncars Hey man, I think youre doing a good job...let the paint cure longer than the 24 hrs because of the humidity....if you have a heater in your garage, turn that on at night.

Like ddtt225 said, 1200-1600 grit then another coat. The dullness you have in your paint should come out after you polish at the end your paint job. Good Luck
08-26-2013 08:34 AM
ddtt225 dont forget the clear coat either, left that out...It would have been easier to rent a small compressor and buy a cheap paint gun from harbor freight (do they have those out there?)
08-26-2013 08:31 AM
ddtt225 your grit is to rough...for a flawless finish ( used to work in a body shop ) apply your coats one by one, sand it with 1600 grit, you want it to be smooth and not rough when your sanding to keep it from clouding up. once you get the disired look pass one more time with your 1600-1200 grit sand paper, you can use a rotary sander as long as you dont press to hard to tear the paint. afterwards you should be fine to buff and polish it.
08-26-2013 08:30 AM
LeatherneckYJ
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
back before urethane we used lacquer to get that super shine and mile deep look.because it involved so much sanding I didn't use it on cars but have done many paint jobs on motorcycles with lacquer..first you would paint the color paint and sand it perfectly smooth with 1000.then you would start stacking clear on it.I would spray 3 light coats of clear,let it sit until the next day,then sand it perfectly smooth and put 3 more coats on it.of course the sanding took the majority of what I had sprayed the day before off but it left a little and it was perfectly smooth for the next coats.I might do this day after day for an entire month.I would have sanded the majority of the paint off but by stacking the coats on absolutely smooth surfaces is what gave it the shine and the depth.I guess that is the reason I dislike sanding any more than necessary so much.with urethane you can get near that same finish with much much less work plus it holds up better than lacquer..I love it
My "rustoleum $50 roll-on paint job"

this is one of the links I am looking at... I guess I will just have to trust in the techniques and hope for the best. I guess at the end of the day, worst case scenario is I am out 50 bucks and have sanded my rig down for a traditional paint job.
08-26-2013 07:53 AM
harleydragon back before urethane we used lacquer to get that super shine and mile deep look.because it involved so much sanding I didn't use it on cars but have done many paint jobs on motorcycles with lacquer..first you would paint the color paint and sand it perfectly smooth with 1000.then you would start stacking clear on it.I would spray 3 light coats of clear,let it sit until the next day,then sand it perfectly smooth and put 3 more coats on it.of course the sanding took the majority of what I had sprayed the day before off but it left a little and it was perfectly smooth for the next coats.I might do this day after day for an entire month.I would have sanded the majority of the paint off but by stacking the coats on absolutely smooth surfaces is what gave it the shine and the depth.I guess that is the reason I dislike sanding any more than necessary so much.with urethane you can get near that same finish with much much less work plus it holds up better than lacquer..I love it
08-26-2013 07:30 AM
harleydragon it is rubbing off some paint..that is the whole idea of the sanding,to smooth the surface.to try to get rid of the cloudy look you can try polishing compound after you have it sanded smooth but it will take a lot of elbow grease and probably will never have a really good shine..all this is why I tried to talk you into doing a traditional paint job in the first place
08-25-2013 09:41 PM
LeatherneckYJ
Day 3 results

So..... It looks pretty decent for the price. I am not 100 percent convinced someone with time constraints or a genuine disdain for painting should take this on.


I do have a question for someone out there.... I have been wet sanding as directed. However, it seems to dull the finish and make a cloudy appearance. I am using 1000 grit. Also, it is rubbing off some paint. I am letting it dry the full 24 hours as directed on the can. Is it possible the heat, combined with humidity, will require longer drying? I am afraid to give it a total sanding.... I am following the sanding directions to a T. The paint looks good as is, but who can see some roller marks and orange peel effect.

Any suggestions?
08-23-2013 02:37 PM
bajajohn
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Originally Posted by LeatherneckYJ View Post
Day 2 prior to wet sanding. I am starting to think this is going to look ok, but not great. Who knows once I buff it out. But I am not sure how one could make this look similar to a rattle job like the original thread made it sound. I kinda wish I would have taken the fender flares off, but oh well.... the paint dries crazy slow even with a good amount of thinner. Could be the NC humidity, who knows...

Anyways, sometime this century I will be done. Only a couple more coats or so...


I really like that Green. If you get Crazy and decide to sell that Grille I would buy it. I am in Ensenada.
08-22-2013 09:50 PM
LeatherneckYJ Day 2 prior to wet sanding. I am starting to think this is going to look ok, but not great. Who knows once I buff it out. But I am not sure how one could make this look similar to a rattle job like the original thread made it sound. I kinda wish I would have taken the fender flares off, but oh well.... the paint dries crazy slow even with a good amount of thinner. Could be the NC humidity, who knows...

Anyways, sometime this century I will be done. Only a couple more coats or so...
08-22-2013 07:54 PM
LeatherneckYJ
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Originally Posted by wasomma View Post
I was going to ask as well. If you ever decide to upgrade your flares (and by upgrade I mean remove) it's gonna be a funky two tone
Yeah I thought that too... However I loosened them up enough to expose to spots where the roller would miss. Also, this is my cheap toy that I want to save money for the good stuff down the road. If I like this rig enough, maybe I will get something better... who knows.
08-22-2013 03:36 PM
wasomma
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Originally Posted by Doch80 View Post
Why didn't you take your flares off?
I was going to ask as well. If you ever decide to upgrade your flares (and by upgrade I mean remove) it's gonna be a funky two tone
08-22-2013 03:15 PM
Doch80 Why didn't you take your flares off?
08-22-2013 09:53 AM
LeatherneckYJ
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Originally Posted by incizion View Post
Army too, Some have paint booths, some don't but I spent alot of time in them.

We have the facilities too, but I am cheap.... I have a rear main seal to replace as well. Anyone done this job? Easy or no? I am pretty confident in my mechanical abilities.
08-22-2013 07:52 AM
87 Florida YJ
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
.....high society city girls liking to take a walk on the wild side sometimes with one of us old outlaws..
My brother, I've been working that angle successfully my whole life. I dont know why but thereis just some kind of magnetism that draws very classy ladies to walk over to the dark side with men that they know will have their back in any situation. I think it's just that we play by rules as we see them and don't ever ever insult our women. Must be that daddy-protector thing they have.
08-22-2013 06:54 AM
incizion
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
when I went in at the tail end of nam my pay as an e1 was $326 a month before taxes so I can remember..but,when I was in ,most every base had a hobby shop..most of ours in the navy had paint boothes as well as sanders,paint guns and most everything you needed for free.all we had to furnish was materials and supplys..me and a buddy supplemented our navy pay by doing paintjobs for others
Army too, Some have paint booths, some don't but I spent alot of time in them.
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