|08-28-2013 08:47 PM|
|08-28-2013 06:02 PM|
The Fiat merger has been damn good for Chrysler and Jeep. BTW, this should look familiar:
|08-28-2013 04:56 PM|
|smohr33||Great news if its true. I have the ZF 8 speed in my BMW and its the best torque converter auto I've ever driven. Its so fast you would swear its a dual clutch, but its still smooth like a normal auto. Power in every gear since there are so many, and its awesome for fuel economy. Obviously the wrangler application will be geared and programmed different, but its a seriously impressive trans. I'm manual fan but would take the ZF 24/7 over a stick now.|
|08-28-2013 04:52 PM|
If you get screwed over by a vehicle brand 5 or 6 times, you don't try it a few years later to see if it still sucks. They're 30 grand a piece.
|08-28-2013 04:08 PM|
|ohioviper||Long time mopar fan.Everything in my driveway for the past 20 years asides from my sons Firebird has been Chrysler,Dodge ,Jeep. Their auto transmissions earned and deserve their reputation .Like someone said cardboard and bondo. I almost fell out of my chair laughing because it is true.Its also why all of my Jeeps have always been standards until this 13. The new 12+ auto is the first one I have been happy with period.|
|08-28-2013 03:23 PM|
|Lusus_Naturae||Commercial vehicles take a beating compared to most everyday drivers, I understand why a company would switch what they buy if something breaks, however, any company should keep reviewing what's out there. Just because they bought a bad batch in the 90's doesn't mean it's still a bad product. I hate to say it, but the best years for the Wrangler may be 2003-2004 based on what I've seen in defects and problems. I am really liking my 2013, but I wonder if Jeep is going down the tubes too.|
|08-28-2013 02:59 PM|
We've been getting E250's. Ford is totally changing the Econoline next year. Its going to be a hightop like the Sprinter so it will probably be Chevy van's for the near future. We buy about 11 per year.
|08-28-2013 01:13 PM|
|08-28-2013 12:59 PM|
A variation of the Wrangler's 3.6L is the Ferrari built 400+HP 3L V6 Twin Turbo found in the 2014 Maserati Ghibli - New Maserati Ghibli Official Website
The Ghibli also has the ZF 8 speed tranny - ZF 8HP transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Just imagine the Wrangler with the Ghibli's motor and trans
|08-28-2013 12:53 PM|
|08-28-2013 12:48 PM|
|overblown||It's funny how the internet works. If a company makes say 300,000 vehicles and 5000 of them have transmission problems, 3000 of those owners end up crying about it online and then all of a sudden "that company builds vehicles with crappy transmissions" becomes gospel.|
|08-28-2013 12:37 PM|
|blankster||Chrysler builds them in Indiana under license from ZF.|
|08-28-2013 12:12 PM|
|08-28-2013 10:34 AM|
|Mopar2Ya||IIRC ZF also makes trans for BMW. The current Mercedes trans aren't bullet proof, there have been some failures, especially in SRT's. Chrysler has made some great trans, especially the TF727.|
|08-28-2013 07:11 AM|
Whatever they're using, its better than when Chrysler tried making their own transmissions. I think they made them out of cardboard and Bondo.
We have a fleet of 64 trucks where I work (a mix of pickups and vans), and Dodge is still on the "do not buy" list because they wouldn't make it through the basic guideline of 10 years/120,000 miles without transmission failures.
|08-28-2013 04:17 AM|
They may both accomplish the same purpose but it definitely doesn't happen in the same way.
|08-28-2013 02:20 AM|
|Lusus_Naturae||2014 is out already....|
|08-28-2013 01:47 AM|
|overblown||Well, the Bentley version handles that much but that's not the same one the wrangler will get. The internals are application specific. I just hope they get it right. I would think so, but time will tell.|
|08-28-2013 12:33 AM|
Put the 8 spd transmission worries to rest - it handles a Bentley's 700lbs of torque
So apparently the 2014 Wrangler will share a transmission with a Bentley and a Nav with a Ferrari.
One Transmission, Countless Cars: The ZF 8HP Eight-Speed - Popular Mechanics