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09-15-2013 01:58 PM
TRAUMAhead
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Originally Posted by budwizer View Post
Does anyone see any issues if I step up the 315's in my current configuration?
With cut fenders, no rubbing issues with a 1.5" spacer leveling kit and 35x12.50r17.

09-15-2013 09:06 AM
Silverback51 Post 21 has pictures of my Jeep with 8.5 wheels and my daughters with 7.5 wheels. Both have leveling kits as their lifts.

The setup works fine on the street, but I don't think I would take it off road for any serious action. I'm sure it would hit the fenders.
09-15-2013 06:46 AM
budwizer So here is my dilemma which I am looking for some advice/opinions on:

I bought a 2014 JKU Rubicon X last month. Suspension and wheel-wise so far I have put on a set of Method Racing NV wheels which are 17x8.5 and have a 4.5" offset. On those I put DuraTrac 285/70/17's which at the time I liked. Added a Teraflex leveling kit which is supposed to give 2" in front and 1" in rear.

However I am now wanting to go with 315/70/17 DuraTrac's and am not sure if I will run into problems. Since my wheels are 8.5" and not 9" will that cause the tires to run a little taller? My understanding is that 2014 should already have the pinch seam trimmed so that should not be an issue. I do some wheeling but for now this is mainly my DD and weekend trails but nothing extreme and don't expect to go anywhere near full flex offroad. At some point I do plan on adding a 2.5" lift but for now I just want to bump up to the 315's.

Does anyone see any issues if I step up the 315's in my current configuration?
09-13-2013 10:16 AM
jon snow
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Originally Posted by FXnut View Post
I think it would depending on what engine you have on whether or not you would like to run 35's on 3.73. I think with the pentastar you would have no issues, but honestly I am not sure. I think I've read on here somewhere of guys running 3.73 and 35's on new Jeeps without any issue.. it may have been on an auto though, can't remember.
Ordered a 2014 JKUR Copperhead Wednesday with Auto and 4.10's, so I'll probably be fine with the 35's.

Sorry to hear your a Wings Fan, though. They're not very popular here, but only because they've been beating the crap out of the Blues for so long!
09-13-2013 07:39 AM
aypanthony
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Originally Posted by marslim View Post
35's may fit for highway use but I can get my 33's with the tf performance leveling kit to rub on the rear under high flex
+1 on this I have the TF leveling with spacers, my 33"s rub the front fender when disconnected. I don't see how 35"s would work without rubbing on even minimal offroad use.
09-13-2013 06:27 AM
Captain Ed
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Originally Posted by FXnut View Post
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I'm in Ontario, Canada. No time for sports lately, but I'm a Detroit Red Wings fan and Minnesota Vikings fan if I ever get a Sunday free to watch a game..
I feel sorry for ya. coming from a Bears and Hawks fan not particularly in that order.

I have a 2 door 2013 pentastar and 3.21 gears and an auto trans. I seem to have lots of power with the stock tires. I have heard some say this set up could run 35's but unsure. It sure feels like it can and someday I might. If anything it will send me gear shopping.
09-11-2013 11:26 PM
FXnut
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Originally Posted by jon snow View Post

One more question (yeah right!). I've seen mention that 35's are too much for 3.73 gears, which I would get on a JKUS. Any truth to that, or is it a matter of how much off road you do?

By the way, where in Canada are you? I must be a "closet Canadian", as I'm way more into Hockey than Baseball, which is difficult when you live in STL.

GO BLUES!
I think it would depending on what engine you have on whether or not you would like to run 35's on 3.73. I think with the pentastar you would have no issues, but honestly I am not sure. I think I've read on here somewhere of guys running 3.73 and 35's on new Jeeps without any issue.. it may have been on an auto though, can't remember.

I'm in Ontario, Canada. No time for sports lately, but I'm a Detroit Red Wings fan and Minnesota Vikings fan if I ever get a Sunday free to watch a game..
09-11-2013 05:42 AM
CodyLee1337 I have the 2.5TF BB with 9550 shocks coming my way and was planning
On getting after market bushwhacker pocket fenders and running 35s...everyone sAid that would work fine and now I don't know lol +_+
09-05-2013 01:44 PM
kernsy I'm in the 2-door 33" (285/75/16) with a TF 1.5 performance lift. Have not had a chance to wheel it hard yet, but accomplished exactly what I wanted to do. I can tell a bit of sluggoness going from the 32" (255/75/17) BFG's to now and I have 4.10 gears. For me, I cannot imagine running 3.73 and 35's.... but thats just my seat of pants feel.
09-05-2013 12:31 PM
lando76
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Originally Posted by marslim View Post
Well I've got the performance leveling kit with 33's and my rear tires rub at high flex... Id go higher than the leveling kit if I were you
I narrowed it down to either the OME 2 inch coil lift or the teraflex 2.5 kit like you suggested. Id rather have more room than not enough.
08-30-2013 12:11 PM
jon snow
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Originally Posted by FXnut View Post
I'm in Canada and am a member of APA (Automobile Protection Agency) which I think gets discounts like Tread Lightly or employee discounts.

I paid invoice + $225 I believe however I ordered on the last day the $3250 Jeep incentives were offered on the '2013's, and the salesman said if he couldn't find what I wanted, he would honor the discount on a '14. Sure enough, we had to order a new '14 JKUR and I had the dealer roll the discount into the price.

I ended up with '14 JKUR Billet 6spd, heated seats, Nav 430, hardtop only (buying a Trektop NX and soft doors over the winter) and connectivity package and I got it for $35, 373.00 before tax. (40,022.01 taxes included and out the door!). I'm very pleased with the deal I received, and for me using the APA it was very painless. The only sticky point was when I was at the dealer and they tried to renege on writing the $3250 off the price. They came in with $1500, I refused, then $2K and I was about to leave, then they came back with "OK, I guess we will since we told you we would", and they wrote in the full $3250 discount.

Good luck in your search for a new Jeep..

Cheers
FXnut
Might try using TrueCar. They have quoted me a $2,800 discount off MSRP for a 13 Sahara by going to a "Certified Dealer" that honors their pricing. Not sure if I can use the service to order a 14, or if I am limited to dealer stock.

One more question (yeah right!). I've seen mention that 35's are too much for 3.73 gears, which I would get on a JKUS. Any truth to that, or is it a matter of how much off road you do?

By the way, where in Canada are you? I must be a "closet Canadian", as I'm way more into Hockey than Baseball, which is difficult when you live in STL.

GO BLUES!
08-29-2013 11:24 PM
FXnut
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Originally Posted by jeff89 View Post
So if I went with the 2.5" TF coil lift with shock adapters, could I add after market shocks if I get them later? Just remove the old shocks and adapters and bolt on the new, longer ones?

Yes, that kit comes in 3 configurations. With TF shocks, with adapters and without either if you wanted different shocks.
08-29-2013 11:13 PM
marslim
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Originally Posted by lando76 View Post
Ive got a 2 door so 285/75/17 ( 33.9 )max size im going. I only have 3.73 s and dont want to run into axle issues trying to turn a 35. I think the 2.5 TF coil would put me to tall for that tire combo. It cant hurt to ask does anyone have a pic with this setup on a performance leveling kit??
Well I've got the performance leveling kit with 33's and my rear tires rub at high flex... Id go higher than the leveling kit if I were you
08-29-2013 10:47 PM
lando76 Ive got a 2 door so 285/75/17 ( 33.9 )max size im going. I only have 3.73 s and dont want to run into axle issues trying to turn a 35. I think the 2.5 TF coil would put me to tall for that tire combo. It cant hurt to ask does anyone have a pic with this setup on a performance leveling kit??
08-29-2013 10:46 PM
hipshot33 Attachment 292371
Teraflex 2.5 coil lift with 315 BFG's ( just for reference)
08-29-2013 08:03 PM
FXnut
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Originally Posted by jon snow View Post
Thanks for all the great info, FXnut. Since you mentioned that you have a JKUR on order, I'm curious about the ordering process. Easy, hard, can you get a decent deal going that route, how long till delivery? I know -lot's of questions, but if I'm going to drop 35-40K on a new jeep (+ wheels/tires/lift, etc.), I want to do it right the first time.

Remember what Ygritte keeps telling me: You know nothing, Jon Snow!

I'm in Canada and am a member of APA (Automobile Protection Agency) which I think gets discounts like Tread Lightly or employee discounts.

I paid invoice + $225 I believe however I ordered on the last day the $3250 Jeep incentives were offered on the '2013's, and the salesman said if he couldn't find what I wanted, he would honor the discount on a '14. Sure enough, we had to order a new '14 JKUR and I had the dealer roll the discount into the price.

I ended up with '14 JKUR Billet 6spd, heated seats, Nav 430, hardtop only (buying a Trektop NX and soft doors over the winter) and connectivity package and I got it for $35, 373.00 before tax. (40,022.01 taxes included and out the door!). I'm very pleased with the deal I received, and for me using the APA it was very painless. The only sticky point was when I was at the dealer and they tried to renege on writing the $3250 off the price. They came in with $1500, I refused, then $2K and I was about to leave, then they came back with "OK, I guess we will since we told you we would", and they wrote in the full $3250 discount.

Good luck in your search for a new Jeep..

Cheers
FXnut
08-29-2013 06:57 PM
Silverback51
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Originally Posted by FXnut View Post
Silverback51, do you have any issues with rub on the black Jeep with the Moabs and 35s? Are you using 1.5" wheel spacers?

Do you have a picture of the front of your Jeep(s) with the air dam removed?
She has 1.5 inch spacers so they have plenty of clearance.

Sorry, no pictures yet with the air dam gone. Maybe this weekend if I get the time and no one posts pictures first.
08-29-2013 06:50 PM
10to10 Tires will measure out differently due to a few variables. Wheel width makes a diference. 17x9, 17x8.5, 17x8, and this ain't even to mentioning the 15 and 16 wheel sizes. Do you really think the same tire will measure out the same in height and width...nope. Just something to keep in mind.
08-29-2013 06:14 PM
FXnut
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Originally Posted by Silverback51 View Post
Here are some pictures of my daughters Jeep and mine. Both have 315/70-17 Duratracs and we both have leveling kits as our lifts.

I measured mine and they come out at a 33.25 rolling diameter, which is what I used on the Pro-Cal to reset the speedometer and it's spot on again.

Forgot to mention that the pinch seam is already trimmed on the 2013, and we removed the air dam on both of them. We both feel they look better without it in place.

Silverback51, do you have any issues with rub on the black Jeep with the Moabs and 35s? Are you using 1.5" wheel spacers?

Do you have a picture of the front of your Jeep(s) with the air dam removed?
08-29-2013 06:11 PM
FXnut
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Originally Posted by Lusus_Naturae View Post
the 33's really look good on the 2 door, but the 4 door looks nicer in 35's.

BINGO! 33's look good on a 2 door, but not proportionate on a 4dr with the longer wheel base IMHO.

Also, I really don't think there will be much of a loss of mpg on a 4.10 equipped Rubicon over stock size tires..
08-29-2013 05:35 PM
Lusus_Naturae My Duratracs sit at 33.75" @29 psi.

I had to trim the pinch seam - this was an early 2013 before Jeep did it.

I have aftermarket bumpers, so no idea if they will rub the stock air dam.

Bushwacker flatties, and now I am running 10A springs (leveled it out really nice and gave some height)

Mileage dropped about 1mpg, averaging 16.5 to 17.2 now.

I went with 315's after putting my (then) stock Jeep next to a friend with 285 tires. He was only about a half inch taller in the tire then me. To me, the 33's really look good on the 2 door, but the 4 door looks nicer in 35's.
08-29-2013 05:02 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by tabber02 View Post
with the leveling kit you're going to be fine, tight... but fine. those 315/75 duratracs actually measure out to about 33.5"... you might need to trim your pinch seam, you'll be a bit close in the rear and the extra space is always a good thing.

now the 2.5" kit.. i wouldn't talk you out of that... you're jeep will ride a little smoother, and if you do get on some bumpy trails, or even at the beach.. you have more "useable" suspension.
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315 Duratracs measure out to 34.4@28psi from all the research I've done. One of the members here (Matador) has 315s and I have the 33s. When I parked next to him, there is a clear difference in size. 315s are a good deal larger.

Now, OP, if you are TRULY and DEFINITELY never going to do any serious wheeling, I'd swallow the red pill and go with 33s. The looks of 35s will wear off, and the negatives of 35s will always be there. Your MPG will take a decent hit, 3.73s are not ideal for 35s so you will lug around, etc. I have the opposite problem. I have 33s, but am wheeling much more than I ever thought I would, so on my new rubi with 4.10s, I will be going with 35s. Make a logical decision, not just emotional (looks.)
08-29-2013 04:56 PM
Silverback51 Here are some pictures of my daughters Jeep and mine. Both have 315/70-17 Duratracs and we both have leveling kits as our lifts.

I measured mine and they come out at a 33.25 rolling diameter, which is what I used on the Pro-Cal to reset the speedometer and it's spot on again.

Forgot to mention that the pinch seam is already trimmed on the 2013, and we removed the air dam on both of them. We both feel they look better without it in place.
08-29-2013 04:40 PM
jeff89 So if I went with the 2.5" TF coil lift with shock adapters, could I add after market shocks if I get them later? Just remove the old shocks and adapters and bolt on the new, longer ones?
08-29-2013 04:31 PM
Spyder1049 I'd do the 2.5, I ran the 315 duratracs for weeks with no lift what do ever on the road but I wouldn't dare take it off-road like that, I have a stubby front bumper and I trimmed the pinch seam. The front wasn't the problem it was the rear that was too close for comfort
08-29-2013 03:11 PM
marslim
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Originally Posted by lando76 View Post

I think an above poster got confused on the 2.5 kit your talking about. The 2.5 BB kit is a puck kit that will have no where near the ride quality of a coil lift like the 1.5 performance leveling kit. Plus the performance kit will allow better articulation if you decide to disconnect.

I have researched beyond my mental capabilities and decided to go the route you mentioned which is a 1.5 performance leveling kit ( coils ) and if need be a 1 inch spacer front and back for more clearance. what I understand this will have little affect on drivleline and handling issues.
I too am curious as to if anyone has added the spacers to the performance leveling kit as I do rub my fenders in the back when loaded with gear, I wouldn't mind doing the 1" spacer in the rear to get it level or slight take back
08-29-2013 03:06 PM
lando76
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Originally Posted by jeff89 View Post
And if I did get the 2.5" BB...that kit is all I need right? I mean, the BB is actually cheaper than the performance leveling kit. (Assuming I stick with stock shocks)
I think an above poster got confused on the 2.5 kit your talking about. The 2.5 BB kit is a puck kit that will have no where near the ride quality of a coil lift like the 1.5 performance leveling kit. Plus the performance kit will allow better articulation if you decide to disconnect.

I have researched beyond my mental capabilities and decided to go the route you mentioned which is a 1.5 performance leveling kit ( coils ) and if need be a 1 inch spacer front and back for more clearance. what I understand this will have little affect on drivleline and handling issues.
08-29-2013 02:51 PM
1manWolfpack
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Originally Posted by tabber02 View Post
yeah.. i know. wait till you see them mounted... my 37" tires are barely 36" no tire is the size they advertise... maybe it is before they're mounted and installed on your rig.
haha this. have the "33x12.5x15's" duratracs and they are 32 on a good day
08-29-2013 02:42 PM
jon snow Thanks for all the great info, FXnut. Since you mentioned that you have a JKUR on order, I'm curious about the ordering process. Easy, hard, can you get a decent deal going that route, how long till delivery? I know -lot's of questions, but if I'm going to drop 35-40K on a new jeep (+ wheels/tires/lift, etc.), I want to do it right the first time.

Remember what Ygritte keeps telling me: You know nothing, Jon Snow!
08-29-2013 02:35 PM
dystynkt Go with the 2.5 and 315's. I went with the tf leveling and 33's and while it is comfortable for dd since I put on a lot of mileage, I do regret not going with the 315's and will likely upgrade down the road.
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