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10-15-2009 12:26 PM
danieldlg_13
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
Islandmonkey,

I think we talked about this before.
I know your Soundbar will hold 6.5" speakers just fine man.
(Have Faith Brotha) lol.
All it takes is a $5 drill bit if you don't already have one.
Save the extra dough that you'd spend on a new Soundbar,
and put it into better quality speakers.

This is my 98 Sahara Soundbar.
Seeee...they fit fine, no cutting.
You're still not gonna get much bass outa any Soundbar though.

Do you have these speakers hooked up to an amp? I can fit almost any 6.5 3-way in the sound bar?
09-03-2009 07:35 PM
marketvending
5 1/4 speaker replacement of the 4 x 6 factory ones.

Well I bought some 22ga sheet metal from Home Depot and with the help of the online template I made up a version of this 5 1/4 speaker bracket. I made the diameter hole at 4 1/2 inches for my Clairon speakers. The fit was perfect! No mods to the Jeep at all. No frame to cut on a 2001 Jeep. On the passenger side there is no problem with the glove box opening or closing.
08-28-2009 10:54 PM
marketvending Thanks for the info. I'll pick up some 5 1/4 speakers and get the outside diameter of the magnet so I can make a couple of mounting brackets on the CNC.
08-26-2009 09:42 PM
islandmonkey I just looked at it, it looks like its plastic mold, is it covered wit fabric like existing sound bar?
thank you



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cons_Table View Post
i bought the vdp six speaker soundbar more than 6 months ago and run it off a kenwood deck. the sound is clear and it is more than loud enough. even with my top off, my after market exhaust i can still hear my music going 55-60 all the way to work. i would def recommend the VDP
08-26-2009 09:45 AM
Cons_Table i bought the vdp six speaker soundbar more than 6 months ago and run it off a kenwood deck. the sound is clear and it is more than loud enough. even with my top off, my after market exhaust i can still hear my music going 55-60 all the way to work. i would def recommend the VDP
08-26-2009 02:22 AM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by marketvending View Post
does the 5 1/4 speaker cause problems with the glove box opening? Also, I installed 6.5 Polk audio DB651's in the factory sound bar and they fit good. Just need to drill four new screw holes for each speaker.
Nope.

08-25-2009 11:40 PM
marketvending does the 5 1/4 speaker cause problems with the glove box opening? Also, I installed 6.5 Polk audio DB651's in the factory sound bar and they fit good. Just need to drill four new screw holes for each speaker.
08-11-2009 09:45 AM
mrcarcrazy
Quote:
Originally Posted by catITguy View Post
I vote against the VDP soundbar. I bought the 3way 6" soundbar from VDP only about 2mos ago and am already upgrading to a system with amp and larger speakers. I think I even managed to damage one of the 6" woofers with a bottom end Sony head unit (no amp until now). Also couldnt really hear the music and what I did hear was gutless with the top off going more than 35mph or so.
just a little note. Sony's stuff is called explode for a reason....its junk.

Speakers are damaged by not enough power, and too much volume (the combo causes distortion, burns the coils. So really its no surprise that you damaged the speakers with a low end headunit, cranking them up to hear it @ >35mph.

too much volume+ not enough power = blown speakers.
08-11-2009 08:34 AM
sonofabeach
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
6.5 in dash?
My bad. I just looked at them and I believe they're 5 1/4 in the dash.
It's been a few years so I forgot.
I made templates like the ones in BLACKTOOTHGRIN's post.
08-11-2009 06:51 AM
islandmonkey 6.5 in dash?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofabeach View Post
I have 6.5 speakers in my dash and soundbar. They do a good enough job. I too made a template for the front speakers.
I've thought about upgrading for more bass but am scared it would be stolen plus I like the room behind the rear seat for stuff other than speaker boxes. Back in the day I used to drop the bass in all my rides but I'm way over that.
Most of the time I'm topless and doorless with the wind blowing so I look at it like I traded in great sound quality for the coolness of driving a Jeep.
08-11-2009 01:02 AM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
Very very good info man. You are awesome!!
1100w is extreme for me, i want to live long and be able to hear in old age ))


Since you understand about these things; do you think about this stereo that came with the car will handle the speakers??
Thank you
Yeah, that HU should do fine for what you want.

The only thing is that you might experience some distortion the further you turn the volume up, because your speakers can handle more power than your HU is delivering.
If you bought a small 300w 4-channel amp,
it would definitely clean the sound up for you.
But you may not need it.
It all depends on the person, and how they like their music.

I would suggest to just buy the speaker adapters,
and the speakers that you like first.
Do the install, and see where you're at.
Putting 5.25" in the dash,
and 6.5" in the soundbar does make a difference.

If your still not happy with it,
then maybe look into a 300watt 4-Channel.
(75watts per speaker)
That may sound like alot, but it really isn't.
You said your new speakers are 70watts.
That's a good match - (depending on the ohms)
08-10-2009 10:35 PM
sonofabeach I have 6.5 speakers in my dash and soundbar. They do a good enough job. I too made a template for the front speakers.
I've thought about upgrading for more bass but am scared it would be stolen plus I like the room behind the rear seat for stuff other than speaker boxes. Back in the day I used to drop the bass in all my rides but I'm way over that.
Most of the time I'm topless and doorless with the wind blowing so I look at it like I traded in great sound quality for the coolness of driving a Jeep.
08-10-2009 10:11 PM
islandmonkey Very very good info man. You are awesome!!
1100w is extreme for me, i want to live long and be able to hear in old age ))


Since you understand about these things; do you think about this stereo that came with the car will handle the speakers??


Pioneer DEH-P4900iB CD receiver with MP3/WMA/AAC playback at Crutchfield.com






Chassis Size Code IEJ
CEA-2006 Compliant No
RMS Power Output 22 watts
Peak Output 50 watts
RMS Power Bandwidth 50-15kHz
Preamp Outputs 6-channel
Sub Preamp Outputs Yes
Preamp Voltage 4 volts
Display Color Blue
Key Button Color Green
EQ Bands 3
Sound Shaping Type Easy EQ
Wireless Remote Yes
Steering Wheel Control Compatible ---
Security Detachable face

Flip-Down Face Yes
Parts Warranty 1 Year
Labor Warranty 1 Year
Expandability
iPod Connection/Control Optional audio
AUX Input Rear
USB Input Optional
Memory Card Slot No
A/V Inputs No
Bluetooth Compatible Optional
Satellite Radio Ready Both
HD Radio Optional
Navigation No
Changer Control Yes
Tuner
Tuner Type Supertuner IIID
FM Sensitivity 8 dBf
FM Presets 18
AM Presets 6
European Tuning No
Seek/Scan Seek
Radio Data System No
Playback
CD Frequency Response 5-20kHz
CD Signal-to-Noise 94 dB
CD-R Playback Yes
CD-RW Playback Yes
MP3 Playback Yes
WMA Playback Yes
AAC Playback ---
DVD Playback No

Thank you
08-10-2009 08:00 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN Yeah, but I also have 1100watts of power behind my stuff.
It's a little different.

I bought mine from offroadtoystore.com, but it looks like their website is down.
Try them later, or maybe do a google search.
Sometimes you can find some on ebay as well, but I won't vouch for the quality.
Some people are also making PVC adapters.
I'd stay away from those though.

Here is a good write up on how to do the mod:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...kers/index.asp

It's pretty basic. All you're doing is cutting 1 piece from each side.
This is my dash. I used a Dremel. Done in no time.







08-10-2009 07:34 PM
islandmonkey where do I find the adapter for 4x6 to 5.25 conversion?
08-10-2009 07:31 PM
islandmonkey Did u ever take the hardtop off and listen to music?
I always have bikini top with no doors, I keep the jeep in the garage.



Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
Islandmonkey,

I think we talked about this before.
I know your Soundbar will hold 6.5" speakers just fine man.
(Have Faith Brotha) lol.
All it takes is a $5 drill bit if you don't already have one.
Save the extra dough that you'd spend on a new Soundbar,
and put it into better quality speakers.

This is my 98 Sahara Soundbar.
Seeee...they fit fine, no cutting.
You're still not gonna get much bass outa any Soundbar though.

08-10-2009 07:05 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiffydarren View Post
Gramps is right.
Gramps?
Where are you getting that idea from?
Doesn't matter....
here's a treat for ya anyways kid.

Now be good, or I'll have to stick you in the corner.


Quote:
Originally Posted by islandmonkey View Post
So do I take the whole soundbar off to mark the drill holes and drill or, you can do it while it is up there?

Thanks
Naw, you can leave it in man.
It might be a little easier if you take it out.
That way you're drilling down instead of up, ya know?
I left mine in when I did it though.

All you have to do is screw the new speaker in place with one of the existing screws.
Mark where the other 3 new holes need to go,
Drill them out, and screw in you're new speaker.

The reason mine look like they are sticking way out is because of that particular casing and grill.
If you don't want them to do that,
buy something with more of a flush mount casing and grill.
Or don't use the casing and grill at all.
08-10-2009 07:01 AM
islandmonkey So do I take the whole soundbar off to mark the drill holes and drill or, you can do it while it is up there?

Thanks




Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
Islandmonkey,

I think we talked about this before.
I know your Soundbar will hold 6.5" speakers just fine man.
(Have Faith Brotha) lol.
All it takes is a $5 drill bit if you don't already have one.
Save the extra dough that you'd spend on a new Soundbar,
and put it into better quality speakers.

This is my 98 Sahara Soundbar.
Seeee...they fit fine, no cutting.
You're still not gonna get much bass outa any Soundbar though.

08-10-2009 06:59 AM
islandmonkey hehehehehe, i don't do brainshaking bass neither will ever buy sw, never did. Just want little better quality sound. Just got Kicker speakers (70W) for the sound bar, they sound better than pioneers that was put it there, but still not good. I might move these kickers to the front, and install 6.5 inch ones I guess. According to the photo there are sticking out pretty bad though.
08-10-2009 04:09 AM
Jiffydarren
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
Islandmonkey,

I think we talked about this before.
I know your Soundbar will hold 6.5" speakers just fine man.
(Have Faith Brotha) lol.
All it takes is a $5 drill bit if you don't already have one.
Save the extra dough that you'd spend on a new Soundbar,
and put it into better quality speakers.

This is my 98 Sahara Soundbar.
Seeee...they fit fine, no cutting.
You're still not gonna get much bass outa any Soundbar though.

Gramps is right. You need subwoofers in the back if you want serious bass. You also need an Obama sticker and dropped suspension.
08-10-2009 02:41 AM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN Islandmonkey,

I think we talked about this before.
I know your Soundbar will hold 6.5" speakers just fine man.
(Have Faith Brotha) lol.
All it takes is a $5 drill bit if you don't already have one.
Save the extra dough that you'd spend on a new Soundbar,
and put it into better quality speakers.

This is my 98 Sahara Soundbar.
Seeee...they fit fine, no cutting.
You're still not gonna get much bass outa any Soundbar though.

08-09-2009 10:35 PM
89PBR96 Pekin
I guess I didn't buy mine was in the jeep when i bought it. So thats just my thoughts of it
08-09-2009 10:31 PM
catITguy idk, maybe mine is the oddball, but I have not been impressed. I have exactly 1 datapoint and my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it

also just out of curiosity where in central IL are you 89PBR96? I live in Metamora (NE of Peoria).
08-09-2009 10:03 PM
89PBR96 I ran mine on the interstate 80 mph no top sounded good i could hear it maybe mine was built on a good day idnk
08-09-2009 10:00 PM
catITguy I vote against the VDP soundbar. I bought the 3way 6" soundbar from VDP only about 2mos ago and am already upgrading to a system with amp and larger speakers. I think I even managed to damage one of the 6" woofers with a bottom end Sony head unit (no amp until now). Also couldnt really hear the music and what I did hear was gutless with the top off going more than 35mph or so.
08-09-2009 09:43 PM
89PBR96 Mine is a vdp with the 2 6 inchers in it sounds pretty good also have infinity dash speakers 3 ways
08-09-2009 09:11 PM
islandmonkey
Is this a good sound upgrade? Says 6" speakers

VDP Six Speaker Upholstered Overhead Sound Bar for 87-02 Jeep Wrangler - Sound Bars - WindRockOffroad.com

or this one?


http://www.windrockoffroad.com/Catal...dproduct=13587

I just need more bass without subwoofer.

thank you

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