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09-11-2013 10:42 PM
AOR
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post
Dude, you have only been looking for a few weeks..........show some patience? Your trigger happy on a purchase. Never is a good thing. Step back, have a cold one..........relax. Let it come to YOU.
Take a page out of the "Law of Attraction." Write a list of what you want. Believe it is yours through visualization. Feel how nice it is to have found and own your perfect LJ or perfect project LJ starter Jeep. Then do as mentioned above. You will get there.
09-11-2013 10:37 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by kdawgg11 View Post
I do appreciate the input but I can't win for losing every jeep I find it there is something wrong with it the first one was salvage I agree with you all on that one the other one was 10 mins from home and it cost to much (which I haven't heard from them back so I don't guess the numbers match up which that's fine) and this one has everything I don't have to do noting but put a CD player to hook my iPod in it has a 6 disc CD player in it. In theory I want a stock LJ with a hard top and soft top and low miles but I can't find any in my area and the ones that are there high I am not saying I will buy this one either but I am going to check it out and maybe work out a deal if not the search continues
Dude, you have only been looking for a few weeks..........show some patience? Your trigger happy on a purchase. Never is a good thing. Step back, have a cold one..........relax. Let it come to YOU.
09-11-2013 10:34 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by kdawgg11 View Post
I would think a 5k suspension kit would be a good one you all hate on all suspension I mention skyjacker before and you say trash and now fabtech these company have been in business a long time if they sucked wouldn't they be gone by now? What suspension do you all have to run to be a "good" company or kit? I will check it out and test drive it but a guy that knows it and builds jeep said it looks to be build good and the kit looked to be done right not a shade tree job I don't know until I check it out
You think the MSRP makes a kit good? That's poor thinking. Go to Pirate4x4, JF, or any other forum that has knowledgeable individuals who can tell you why MOST $$$ kits are substandard. Fabtech does not have a great reputation when it comes to Jeep lifts. Devil is in the details.

Fabtech doesn't even specialize in Jeeps. The geometry is poor. The individual parts used are nothing to write home about. Do a search on them, I can garentee you that for every recommendation you find, you will find a handful of negative reviews as well. If you just want a jacked up street queen though, then it will fit the bill nicely. If you plan on doing some regular moderate and hard wheeling.......you will find out fast how good it really is.

What would I or anyone else gain by telling you if an item is poor or not? Surely no financial gain.

Your best bet is looking for a stock Wrangler......and then doing RESEARCH, reading..........gaining knowledge for YOUR OWN BENEFIT and then modifying it specifically to fit YOUR OWN NEEDS.

Curious, who is this "Guy" who "knows it" and builds jeeps? Does he have a sterling reputation? I know a lot of "guys" who build up Jeeps and other vehicles too..........most are hacks.

I'll give you a good list of mfg's that do have a sterling rep. Currie, Metal Cloak, ARB/OME, Rokmen, Clayton, Poly Performance, Genright. Not a huge list.
09-11-2013 10:03 PM
kdawgg11
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Originally Posted by AOR View Post
Don't forget to save some money for new gears. Fabtech is over priced for what you get. Check it out and see if you like it. You can always change out joints and go lower springs.
Well I wouldn't pay 5 or 6 k for any lift kit I don't care how good it is If I was going to build my own 500 buck rough country is what it would get what wheelin I do stock could handle it
09-11-2013 09:55 PM
AOR Don't forget to save some money for new gears. Fabtech is over priced for what you get. Check it out and see if you like it. You can always change out joints and go lower springs.
09-11-2013 09:52 PM
kdawgg11 I do appreciate the input but I can't win for losing every jeep I find it there is something wrong with it the first one was salvage I agree with you all on that one the other one was 10 mins from home and it cost to much (which I haven't heard from them back so I don't guess the numbers match up which that's fine) and this one has everything I don't have to do noting but put a CD player to hook my iPod in it has a 6 disc CD player in it. In theory I want a stock LJ with a hard top and soft top and low miles but I can't find any in my area and the ones that are there high I am not saying I will buy this one either but I am going to check it out and maybe work out a deal if not the search continues
09-11-2013 09:45 PM
kdawgg11 I would think a 5k suspension kit would be a good one you all hate on all suspension I mention skyjacker before and you say trash and now fabtech these company have been in business a long time if they sucked wouldn't they be gone by now? What suspension do you all have to run to be a "good" company or kit? I will check it out and test drive it but a guy that knows it and builds jeep said it looks to be build good and the kit looked to be done right not a shade tree job I don't know until I check it out
09-11-2013 09:42 PM
NJO To the OP: Look for a clean STOCK LJ to purchase. Always the best way to go. 9 out of 10 "modded" jeeps are loaded with junk parts and poor planning integration. Go stock bro, build it up yourself after you have improved your knowledge base and have months of diligent research in place.
09-11-2013 09:39 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by idiot magnet View Post
Check out fabtech suspensions before you buy it. There are a ton of things that need to upgraded before running 36's and a 6.5" lift.
Steering upgraded? Brakes upgraded? Axle shafts? Gears? Trussed?
Just because its big and looks cool doesn't mean it's set up correctly.
Yeah......including the ENTIRE "Fabtech" LA kit. Garage/street queen garbage.
09-11-2013 09:38 PM
idiot magnet Check out fabtech suspensions before you buy it. There are a ton of things that need to upgraded before running 36's and a 6" lift.
Steering upgraded? Brakes upgraded? Axle shafts? Gears? Trussed?
Just because its big and looks cool doesn't mean it's set up correctly.
I agree with the above post. Avoid fabtech.
09-11-2013 09:36 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by kdawgg11 View Post
Ok I am going sat to look at a 06 LJ rubicon I will test drive and check it out good it is the orange color which I am happy to find and 6speed has a 6 in fabtech suspenion on 36in tires and a winch with air compressor attach and poison spider rocker guards locker mod and cb arb diff covers terra flex steering stabilizers seems to be build right and looks good doesn't appear to be dents or anything I can't tell until I check it out has 86k I am pretty excited to check it out an I will test it out good and look under it well think it would be a fun jeep
6" lift? Steering stabilizers(plural)?.........its Fabtech.........PASS on it.
09-11-2013 09:29 PM
kdawgg11 Ok I am going sat to look at a 06 LJ rubicon I will test drive and check it out good it is the orange color which I am happy to find and 6speed has a 6 in fabtech suspenion on 36in tires and a winch with air compressor attach and poison spider rocker guards locker mod and cb arb diff covers terra flex steering stabilizers seems to be build right and looks good doesn't appear to be dents or anything I can't tell until I check it out has 86k I am pretty excited to check it out an I will test it out good and look under it well think it would be a fun jeep
09-06-2013 03:27 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by BigHurt844 View Post

To expand on that piece, unless you can get them for nothing haha! I almost settled a few times on a jeep, that reason you are asking is you know deep down it doesn't sit right which is what i felt. I held off and ended up wit a 06 Rubi with 50k miles on it stock and had barely seen dirt for 14,5k. It will come to you, just keep your eyes peeled!
And to expand on that......do you haggling online or on the phone.....lowball.......be persistant. If dealing with a dealership start that process at beginning of the month and dont plan on a deal being consumated till the end of the month. Haggle on multiple fronts to......show the people your dealing with your serious about a sale......but keep the advantage throughout entire process. You will NOT get the best price trying to get it all done in a day or 2.
09-06-2013 02:13 PM
BigHurt844
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Originally Posted by kdawgg11 View Post
So all salvage vehicles are junk basically
To expand on that piece, unless you can get them for nothing haha! I almost settled a few times on a jeep, that reason you are asking is you know deep down it doesn't sit right which is what i felt. I held off and ended up wit a 06 Rubi with 50k miles on it stock and had barely seen dirt for 14,5k. It will come to you, just keep your eyes peeled!
09-05-2013 11:38 AM
kdawgg11
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Originally Posted by Bryan 45 View Post
When I was looking, I found a screaming deal on a 06 Rubicon w/ a salvage title. But , my insurance company would only insure a vehicle w/ salvage title for liability only. I wasn't interested in having a 10K vehicle w/ only liability insurance.

I waited patiently, and finally found an unmodified 05 Rubicon LJ w/ 63K miles for $16K. Yes, in Kentucky that is below market value.
Yeah that's good and my insurance wouldn't do it at all and the other company's are to high so I ain't going to fool with just another thing on the con side
09-05-2013 06:56 AM
Bryan 45 When I was looking, I found a screaming deal on a 06 Rubicon w/ a salvage title. But , my insurance company would only insure a vehicle w/ salvage title for liability only. I wasn't interested in having a 10K vehicle w/ only liability insurance.

I waited patiently, and finally found an unmodified 05 Rubicon LJ w/ 63K miles for $16K. Yes, in Kentucky that is below market value.
09-05-2013 02:48 AM
kdawgg11 Ok that's fine and blunt is perfectly fine with me and i get what you are saying. So all salvage vehicles are junk basically. I never bought one so I have no clue but there are a lot of people buys them an fixes them up and sells them or keeps them I know there not perfect but a new one isn't either and I guess you can get the lemon one as well I just asking opinions and waving the pro and cons and I have no problem waiting for the right one and I am sure the next one I find I will ask again I do appreciate the help and I will take yours all advise and pass on it
09-05-2013 01:23 AM
Steve2012
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Originally Posted by Tomdata View Post
Ok.. I have tried to be as nice as possible.. Let me be blunt.

If you cheap out and buy some rebuilt salvaged nightmare. You will most likely end up spending more money chasing problems than if you just cough up the extra dough and get a good one.

Pay me now or pay me later
Agree
09-05-2013 01:17 AM
Tomdata Ok.. I have tried to be as nice as possible.. Let me be blunt.

If you cheap out and buy some rebuilt salvaged nightmare. You will most likely end up spending more money chasing problems than if you just cough up the extra dough and get a good one.

Pay me now or pay me later
09-05-2013 12:49 AM
kdawgg11
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Originally Posted by Steve2012 View Post
Idk about info or pics, they go through 1000's of vehicles. Just my opinion , but I would find something else, that is a potentially very expensive nightmare waiting to happen. Not to mention way overpriced if salvaged and tmu branded title.

I understand what your saying and everybody I talk agrees with you. But looking at prices people are asking the same weather there salvage or not that is what got me confused actually he is about 4k cheaper on his price than 3 or 4 others I have looked up and to hear the banks say they don't care If it was salvage or not they just go by the book has be baffled cause you would think cheaper and not worth as much but at least for jeeps there not. I bought another report and tracks it some more. The guy that has already put 5k driving it everyday in 2 months and he hasn't had any issues and to see pics on how clean the engine is and it doesn't look like it has been off road and it is hard to find not impossible to find a rubicon that isn't rag out I have had a few other options one is a 03 rubicon auto soft top for 16,900 it does have a lift and winch and a 04 for 17 but it has been use and the pics show it has been tested and has a roll cage in it but there not salvage at least I don't think so. Both of them seem interested in trading but what do you all think of those prices for 03-04 rubicons
09-05-2013 12:34 AM
Steve2012 Idk about info or pics, they go through 1000's of vehicles. Just my opinion , but I would find something else, that is a potentially very expensive nightmare waiting to happen. Not to mention way overpriced if salvaged and tmu branded title.
09-05-2013 12:33 AM
UnlimitedRubicon
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post
Not at all.
I know you think very highly of yourself but you don't know everything. The market in New Jersey is not the same as the market in Southern California.
09-05-2013 12:26 AM
kdawgg11
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Originally Posted by Steve2012 View Post
They pretty much auction insurance totals and salvaged vehicles to wrecking yards or whoever is going to rebuild it. I would say pretty sure it was totaled and rebuilt, which explains the "custom paint" job
Yeah I know it is rebuild I just was trying to track down who rebuild it so I can ask what all they had to do to it and or see pics of it wreck you think if I call them and give them the vin they would still have info or pics about it?
09-05-2013 12:23 AM
kdawgg11
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Originally Posted by Tomdata View Post
Kdawgg..

Did you already buy the green jeep? It kinda seems like you are having buyers remorse
No I haven't bought it yet still determine it just checking it all the options out
09-04-2013 11:34 PM
Steve2012 They pretty much auction insurance totals and salvaged vehicles to wrecking yards or whoever is going to rebuild it. I would say pretty sure it was totaled and rebuilt, which explains the "custom paint" job
09-04-2013 11:09 PM
Tomdata Kdawgg..

Did you already buy the green jeep? It kinda seems like you are having buyers remorse
09-04-2013 11:07 PM
kdawgg11
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Originally Posted by Steve2012 View Post
Copart is an auction for salvage vehicles
So you think it was fix or just sold though them so they work or just auction them as is
09-04-2013 10:51 PM
Steve2012 Copart is an auction for salvage vehicles
09-04-2013 10:37 PM
kdawgg11
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Originally Posted by Steve2012 View Post
I would pass, wrecked and odometer not correct.
By the other reports it show odometer is right but the wreck is still there lol says hit earth embankment does anybody from Fairfield ca? It show ca does anybody know copart inc. I wonder if that is where it was fixed or sold
09-04-2013 07:36 PM
Steve2012 I would pass, wrecked and odometer not correct.
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