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09-12-2009 12:22 AM
tbeede neat... I also vote for the ORO led lights... I've got them on my rig... easy to install and fully sealed... no drilling or hassel..
09-11-2009 09:27 AM
TheTJRod Well, I got them installed last week but didn't get the chance to update this. I used nylon screws and some kind of plastic thing used for wood drawer rails. I mounted that to the bottom of the thin piece of metal separating the brake and reverse light.









09-01-2009 06:08 PM
islandmonkey LED lights, T and J????
kidding me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cons_Table View Post
whats too cheesy?
09-01-2009 03:12 PM
TheTJRod Alright, so I have been busy for the past few days but I got some time to run to the hardware store to pick up supplies to mount the lights. Bunch of nylon screws and plastic mounts. Going wheeling this weekend so I can test it out. Of course I will carry my original bulbs around just in case they go out.

Also I got a request for the pics of the dome light leds. Here you go.





08-30-2009 10:13 AM
islandmonkey

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post

I'll start cut'n as soon as you put this bumper on your Rig Dave!





NO DOUBT.
08-29-2009 11:37 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN I'll pray for your soul.
08-29-2009 10:33 PM
daanbc
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post

I'll start cut'n as soon as you put this bumper on your Rig Dave!





NO DOUBT.
Hey my daughter who's 17 and just got her lic. Saw those picks of that jeep, and she was diggin it. Sooooo I can't say never to that.
08-29-2009 10:29 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by daanbc View Post
When are ya gonna just cut them holes? I know ya wanna cut the hood, now the lights, Just do it already. LOL. Just razzen ya.

I'll start cut'n as soon as you put this bumper on your Rig Dave!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cons_Table View Post
ya i was hesitant on cuttin it out...but i also bit the bullet cuz i love the look. but i dig the LED look lol flush mount or not. and ur right blacktooth grin...they may nail us about our tail lights, but if they do, they'll nail us for everything else too haha.
NO DOUBT.
08-28-2009 11:07 PM
TheTJRod I checked my numbers again and found that I miscalculated the resistor values. They were for a set of 5 and not 15 so they were 3 times the value than they should have been(which gave only 1/3 the current). I set it up and they are looking pretty good. I am going to sleep now but I did get some pics and will post tomorrow.

Oh and tomorrow I am going to find something to mount it. Any suggestions would be very welcome.
08-28-2009 09:11 PM
Cons_Table ya i was hesitant on cuttin it out...but i also bit the bullet cuz i love the look. but i dig the LED look lol flush mount or not. and ur right blacktooth grin...they may nail us about our tail lights, but if they do, they'll nail us for everything else too haha.

p.s...some jeepers do make some lights for under their jeeps...they are called rock lights lol
08-28-2009 09:07 PM
daanbc
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
He thinks our LED tail lights are cheesy.
I personally just think he's envious.

Yeah, I didn't like the price of the ORO's either.
At the same time, I didn't want to drill out a 2-4" hole for the flush mount LED's.
So I bit the bullet, so to speak.

The ORO's have outer edge LED's to keep you compliant at night.
Obviously, during the day there isn't a visible side marker.
ORO gives you some sticky red reflective tape to keep up to the regulations,
but I'm not sticking that sh*t on my Rig.
The way I look at it is:
If I get pulled over, and the Cop wants to be a jerk,
he's gonna nickle and dime me for everything else I've done with my Jeep,
not just the tail lights.
Piss on 'em!
When are ya gonna just cut them holes? I know ya wanna cut the hood, now the lights, Just do it already. LOL. Just razzen ya.
08-28-2009 08:59 PM
TheTJRod
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
I'm not sticking that sh*t on my Rig.

Piss on 'em!


Didn't realize that they were a no cut solution. that makes it more desirable.
08-28-2009 06:31 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN He thinks our LED tail lights are cheesy.
I personally just think he's envious.

Yeah, I didn't like the price of the ORO's either.
At the same time, I didn't want to drill out a 2-4" hole for the flush mount LED's.
So I bit the bullet, so to speak.

The ORO's have outer edge LED's to keep you compliant at night.
Obviously, during the day there isn't a visible side marker.
ORO gives you some sticky red reflective tape to keep up to the regulations,
but I'm not sticking that sh*t on my Rig.
The way I look at it is:
If I get pulled over, and the Cop wants to be a jerk,
he's gonna nickle and dime me for everything else I've done with my Jeep,
not just the tail lights.
Piss on 'em!
08-28-2009 03:38 PM
Cons_Table whats too cheesy?
08-28-2009 03:32 PM
islandmonkey In my opinion (just mine) it is wayyy too chessy, just like putting neon lights under those modded jap cars

i hope i didnt hurt anyones feelings, its just personal opinion
08-28-2009 03:19 PM
Cons_Table ya i read through the laws before i decided to do it, so i will eventually get the side markers taken care of. thanks for info zybeon
08-28-2009 02:27 PM
TheTJRod sense I have been reading through the DOT regulations for the past hour those no make you illegal. Not that the lights themselves are illegal but it has taken away your reflective side markers that were built into the side of the original tail lights. Though I doubt anyone would stop you for it and/or an inspector fail your vehicle. I just thought you would like to know.

Quote:
S5.1.1.3 Intermediate side marker devices are not required on vehicles less than 30 feet in overall length.
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S5.1.1.4 Reflective material conforming to Federal Specification L-S-300, Sheeting and Tape, Reflective; Non-exposed Lens, Adhesive Backing, September 7, 1965, may be used for side reflex reflectors if this material as used on the vehicle, meets the performance standards in either Table I or Table IA of SAE Standard J594f, Reflex Reflectors, January 1977.
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TABLE IV—LOCATION OF REQUIRED EQUIPMENT

Reflex reflectors ........

On the rear-1 red on each side of the vertical centerline, at the same height, and as far apart as practicable .
On each side-1 red as far to the rear as practicable, and 1 amber as far to the front as practicable .
I know I saw that someone got a 2" led to put on the sides and another that just got reflective little circles and put them on the sides. BTW here is the DOT reg page
08-28-2009 01:11 PM
Cons_Table i liked the ORO litedots but i didnt like the price tag lol. these cost me 30 dollars from walmart and work great.
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08-28-2009 12:11 PM
TheTJRod Those things are expensive!

I think I am going to temporarily wire in 1k potentiometers so I can just adjust them to the right brightness then install the permanent resistors and install it all to see how long it works. If it doesn't work I will try with white leds as they seemed much brighter. If that doesn't look as intended I will just make some plain old array of leds and call it a day... or a week.
08-28-2009 04:45 AM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incursorio View Post
Where to get these?
What to you get inside? Stop / turn / reverse light?
When stopping, they get brighter.
When turning, they blink brighter, plus there are 3 LED's on the outer edges.
When in reverse, the Red LED's go out, and the White LED's come on.



Here ya go man.

https://secure48.mysecureorder.net/o...elibbkpfc9d3g0


If you Google "ORO LITEDOTS" and shop around,
you might be able to find them cheaper, I'm not sure.
I bought mine directly from OffRoadOnly.com just in case I had any issues,
I could deal with them directly instead of going through a 3rd party.

As it turned out,
that was a good idea because they shipped me two left lights the first time.
They're good guys over there though.
All it took was one phone call,
and they overnighted me the right light the very next day.
08-28-2009 04:26 AM
Incursorio
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
No, Red LEDs aren't going to be as bright as white ones.
I never said they would be.

I said to get the T and the J to look right,
(well defined)
you might have to use Red LED's and Clear lenses.
It looks to me like you're still using the stocker lenses.
Yeah Red LEDs inside Red stocker lenses would be very dim,
and not very well defined at all.

If ya get tired of messing with it all,
maybe try some LiteDots.
They've worked well so far,
and I've had them almost a year now.




Where to get these?
What to you get inside? Stop / turn / reverse light?
08-28-2009 03:39 AM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zybeon View Post
Darn you blacktooth, red leds were no where near as bright. I need to redo them with the white leds. And they have a higher voltage drop so I will have to redesign it. Oh well. Here are some pics, if I can get it bright enough it will look good.
No, Red LEDs aren't going to be as bright as white ones.
I never said they would be.

I said to get the T and the J to look right,
(well defined)
you might have to use Red LED's and Clear lenses.
It looks to me like you're still using the stocker lenses.
Yeah Red LEDs inside Red stocker lenses would be very dim,
and not very well defined at all.

If ya get tired of messing with it all,
maybe try some LiteDots.
They've worked well so far,
and I've had them almost a year now.

08-28-2009 12:19 AM
TheTJRod PS: I hate my camera.... it sucks.
08-28-2009 12:18 AM
TheTJRod Darn you blacktooth, red leds were no where near as bright. I need to redo them with the white leds. And they have a higher voltage drop so I will have to redesign it. Oh well. Here are some pics, if I can get it bright enough it will look good.

Here is the difference of the regular and the LED's for the running lights


Here is with the brake lights on


Of course the light doesn't look like that for real, but the pictures are to just show the light output difference.

Here is the "T" on running lights


And for brake lights.


And a close up so that you can see that the "T" is really visible.


I can increase the brightness more but at the risk of severely shortening the life if the leds. Also if one goes out it knocks out a whole string of them(three sets of 5 in each)
08-27-2009 03:09 PM
TheTJRod So sorry it has been a while. I kinda put it on the back burner. The regulator thing was just not working out to well. I had to add some diodes for polarity checks and that made the input voltage drop to much for it to work right. Work piled up and got some new bumpers, and went to the Big Dogs Summer Slam near Winchester, VA. All that slowed me down some more. Well to lighten the mood here is a pic.



I striped out the regulators and decided on an easier approach. Here is a circuit of the working design. I got it all working, you are required to use that many diodes or your Jeep does weird things when turning on the turn signals without the running lights on.


I also did the flasher mod so I don't have to worry about the fast blinker. That page has some info about what it does and how to do it yourself for your year TJ. Don't use or get LED light that have a load resistor. All it does is negate the power saving and you have to find a spot for a chuck of metal that gets hot.
08-04-2009 08:14 AM
TheTJRod
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripcord View Post
Did you find any clear light covers?
The only ones I have found are LED taillights that not only come with LED's but are way to expensive.

I am having a few problems with them. I did all the calculations then soldered them up, the "T" worked great but then when seeing how it fit accidentally grounded it on the metal divider in the tail light and it stopped working fully. I burnt out one LED, so I hope that is the only problem. The "J" doesn't work at all, I need more hands so that I can plug it in and take a multimeter to it. I already checked all the connections, and the LED's and they are all good. Only thing I can think of that could be wrong is that I got a bad regulator. I hope that is the problem.

Oh and for the circuit guys here, I used 3 groups of 5 red LED's in parallel with 1.8-2v drop with a 680ohm resistor for about 5mA. Then for the full brightness I use a NPN transistor as a switch. Connect the ground of the LED's before the resistor to the collector, the brake/turn wire to the base, through a 500ohm resistor, then have a 150ohm resistor connected to the emitter and ground. Wiring a 680ohm and 150 ohm resistor in parallel making it close to 102ohm overall to give the LED's about 20mA current.
08-03-2009 08:33 PM
Ripcord Did you find any clear light covers?
08-03-2009 12:28 PM
dylan Sick
08-03-2009 10:02 AM
TheTJRod Well I didn't get to finish last night, my wife got home and spent the evening with her.

Almost finished the "J".

All the pics are bad right now I know, but they are with my phone.




Just because I had so much fun this weekend I put up this with a little flex action! This is also at an incline of about 30 degrees.
08-02-2009 06:21 PM
TheTJRod Sorry I haven't posted in a few days. I went on a weekend trail run with my wife and my friend and his girlfriend and 4 kids. We went to George Washington National Forest. Saw a dozen Land Rovers there. Would put up a picture but my wife has the camera right now, so later I will post one on my time line when I update it.

Anyway, I have finished the "T" and wanted to post a pic. I am working on the "J" now and will post a pic of them installed when it gets dark tonight(If the wife lets me).





The two LED's pointing down are white, to illuminate the license plate.
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