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03-11-2010 10:39 AM
bugman1964 yeah I would like to know the final shake down.
03-11-2010 10:37 AM
s3nt3nc3d I'm glad this thread got revived... I wasn't a member yet when it was posted. I seriously laughed my ass off reading through it. What I want to know is...did the OP ever get his seat covers paid for?
03-11-2010 09:44 AM
apo8307 First always get the police reporte. 2nd i'm not shure where you live but in fla. if you and the guy agree to work things out and he doesn't pay than later you have to take him to court over this matter due to it is now a civil matter!!!!! if i was you get the report and call the states to see if they will take it to court, if not than talk to the guy and fill him out if he seems like he'll do the right thing than good if not than fill charges with the state. glad your ok and good luck with this.
03-11-2010 09:36 AM
dj_chizzle
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Originally Posted by Schmo View Post
If you don't have any practice with the firearm, you probably shouldn't depend on it for home defense.
This. Having a gun for home defense is pointless if you don't practice using it for that once in a lifetime moment when it can make the difference between life and death.
03-11-2010 12:11 AM
RatherBNarizona holy crap I forgot about this thread!
BEST THREAD TITLE EVVVVVVAAAAAA!!!!
03-11-2010 12:01 AM
BeepBeepImaJeep
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Originally Posted by 05GT-O.C.D. View Post
I'd highly reccommend getting Kevlar seat covers next time.
sigggg
09-23-2009 12:40 AM
chezuki
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Originally Posted by morphious View Post
i never want to be that guy
Yeah me neither. Bottom line is, human beings f*** up from time to time. All the training and all the safe habits just make you feel that much more stupid when you do. Thank God no one was hurt. The unforgivable, and inexcusable part is that the guy didn't have the sack/human decency to check and make sure everyone was ok.
09-22-2009 02:56 PM
morphious sorry i never want to be that guy i apologize i worded it wrong
09-22-2009 01:56 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
I carry a 1911 .45ACP. It has three very good safeties. It has a grip safety that has to be depressed to fire. It has a manual safety that has to be switched off to fire. And the most important safety, I never put my booger hook on the bang switch unless I'm ready to fire.

If you follow the rules of safety and you keep your firearm well maintained you won't have a problem.
Sig worthy!!
09-22-2009 01:25 PM
chezuki
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Originally Posted by morphious View Post
i never want to be this retard and have my gun shoot my neighbors house.

"IT" didn't "HE" did!!!
09-22-2009 12:11 AM
tiny terror
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Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
I carry a 1911 .45ACP. It has three very good safeties. It has a grip safety that has to be depressed to fire. It has a manual safety that has to be switched off to fire. And the most important safety, I never put my booger hook on the bang switch unless I'm ready to fire.

If you follow the rules of safety and you keep your firearm well maintained you won't have a problem.

Best name ever.
09-21-2009 11:54 PM
Contra also to mention, i have 2 pistols in the house both loaded, a 9mm (not chambered)

and a .357 revolver (single action)

they are my last line of defense, i also have a tazer in each night stand, 2 stun guns in the kitchen area, many combat knifes, 2 sling shots, a Clamore on a trip wire in the back yard, many rubber bands and spit wades, a plethera of bad words, a pungi stick facing the bathroom door (this is my safe room, for my wife), smelly underware in the hallway, melted ice in the living room, a moat filled with pee in the spare bed room, used toilet paper on the walls in the living room, snot on the banister and 2 vicious Schnauzers that like ankles. so i think i am covered...
09-21-2009 11:39 PM
Contra press charges on that ******* and let the apartment know and they will take care of the floor, by also sueing them...or their insurance will
09-21-2009 11:34 PM
morphious its cool i dont care what any one does its ur stuff and ur life. i just get sketchy about leaving it chambered i never want to be this retard and have my gun shoot my neighbors house. and on that note i brought this up at work yesterday and a girl their said her husband did the same thing.and shot through his floor.
09-21-2009 06:02 PM
05GT-O.C.D. Keeping a round in the chamber is NOT asking for something to happen. Contrary to some people's belief, guns don't just magically go off. If they were to go off when dropped, then w/ any modern firearm (that I'm aware of) it would mean the gun is defective. They don't go off unless the trigger is pulled.
So, my question to the 'don't chamber a round' crowd is - would you only load 5 shots in a six shot revolver?
Oh, and morphious - none of this is directed towards you. I'm just sick of people I know who are ignorant on guns, yet think they are able to tell other people how to handle theirs.
09-21-2009 05:07 PM
skeeter I carry a 1911 .45ACP. It has three very good safeties. It has a grip safety that has to be depressed to fire. It has a manual safety that has to be switched off to fire. And the most important safety, I never put my booger hook on the bang switch unless I'm ready to fire.

If you follow the rules of safety and you keep your firearm well maintained you won't have a problem.
09-21-2009 04:56 PM
morphious i don't blame u for being prepared but i just wouldn't keep a round chambered. that is asking for some thing to happen that's all I'm saying.the claymore thing was just a joke,although i could make a setup in my yard that would get anything. i thought it out i get bored very easily. would make an ok zombie defense to and yes i have a emergency zombie escape plan. don't ask
09-21-2009 04:43 PM
whitebuffalo
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Originally Posted by morphious View Post
i'm just really amazed that u dont just start laying motion trip claymores around the perimeter could be affective would work on intruders and relatives u dont like
wait until you've needed to defend yourself once and then make fun of being prepared
09-21-2009 04:36 PM
morphious i'm just really amazed that u dont just start laying motion trip claymores around the perimeter could be affective would work on intruders and relatives u dont like
09-21-2009 04:31 PM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by morphious View Post
yeah i have to agree why was he screwing with a loaded gun inside like that. i could see if u live in a bad part of a city. and u were worried but still i dont think i would keep one chambered. i'd be curious to find out what exactly caused the discharge
I keep one chambered at all times. Good part, bad part doesn't make a difference, if you need your gun you likely will have very little time to get it ready to go, and chambering a round can give away your position.

The "rack the slide scares em away" argument assumes the bad guy is predisposed to run if confronted while invading your occupied home. If he isn't then you've just given away tactical advantage. You've just given away your position, and the fact that you're armed.
09-21-2009 12:44 PM
Levinoss
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Originally Posted by morphious View Post
yeah i have to agree why was he screwing with a loaded gun inside like that. i could see if u live in a bad part of a city. and u were worried but still i dont think i would keep one chambered. i'd be curious to find out what exactly caused the discharge
Yea, that would clear up a few questions.
09-21-2009 11:18 AM
morphious i guess i was worried more about the murder charge then assault
09-21-2009 09:59 AM
mrcarcrazy
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Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
I didn't say bird shot couldn't kill a human. I'm saying it's effectiveness at stopping the threat is considerably lower than other options available.
Bird shot may kill a man, but then again, as you point out in your next post, so can a pellet gun, as long as you hit just the right spot.
If I'm in a situation where I feel the need to employ a firearm then I'm in a situation where the threat needs to be stopped as quickly as possible. I don't want the intruder to have time to fire back or rush me with a knife, I want him stopped. It takes a fraction of a second for the intruder to retaliate but it can take quite awhile to bleed out.

The box of truth has quite a bit of info regarding over penetration of walls with various rounds, and a fairly good discussion of the effectiveness of bird shot but it's certainly not the only website with that information available.

I'm just offering my opinion based on a quite a bit of reading as well as first hand experience as a fireman and then as a truck driver at accident scenes witnessing the amount of damage the human body can sustain and still be functional.
My point is purely That at the distance you will find an intruder in most apartments, and houses is 10-20ft. At this range, bird shot will very likely kill the intruder. (aka stop the threat) Where as many people will miss with a handgun. Shooting in combat and other high stress environments causes many "skilled marksmen" to miss. But as I stated before I use 00 Buck because I know I can hit them, and I live alone.

I'm personally more concerned with someone missing and killing a family member, or neighbor. Because another thing that most people do is empty the magazine trying to stop the threat. Many of said shots don't hit intended target...then you have a situation like the one that started this thread...except it could have a dead kid in it. And that bothers me.

Morphious, check your local laws around here, shooting someone with a shotgun full of rock salt is still assault with a deadly weapon....So I'd suggest against that. If you need a gun, you NEED a gun.
09-21-2009 09:50 AM
morphious huh
09-21-2009 09:48 AM
mrcarcrazy
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Originally Posted by chezuki View Post
there are 2 types of discharges, intentional and negligent. There is no such thing as an "accidental discharge"
+465,712,523,324. (i'm agreeing)
09-21-2009 09:42 AM
morphious yeah i have to agree why was he screwing with a loaded gun inside like that. i could see if u live in a bad part of a city. and u were worried but still i dont think i would keep one chambered. i'd be curious to find out what exactly caused the discharge
09-21-2009 01:04 AM
Levinoss Being a trained soldier makes it even worse.
09-21-2009 12:53 AM
Coyote_94YJ Well, dang. You guys are no fun!
09-20-2009 11:10 PM
Joe Dirt Having an accidental discharge is like being a drunk driver. It didn't just happen! It happened because you were being an idiot...
09-20-2009 10:53 PM
stevens243
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Originally Posted by chezuki View Post
There are 2 types of discharges, intentional and negligent. There is no such thing as an "accidental discharge"
Not even "accidental" that time I drank 6 schlitz, ate a bean burrito and thought I was just gonna pass a little gas.

I mean, I thought it was "accidental".

I surely didn't do it on purpose!!
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