|10-02-2009 04:21 PM|
^ That's comparing apples to pears, though- that's a generational gap issue. The Rubicon has at least 3" more tire than your TJ to help smooth things out, not to mention SSV shocks.
As I've said, if you NEED a Rubi, get a Rubi. If you want a smooth ride, get a Grand Cherokee. But yeah- either one is a great choice- if you can swing it, and need it, get a Rubi- Mark W.
|10-02-2009 10:01 AM|
|coolbreeze||I test drove an 09 Rubicon before I bought my 04 X. If anything, the Rubicon was smoother.|
|10-02-2009 09:36 AM|
|jk'n||I would say they are almost indistinguishable from each other and that is from personal experience with both. Meaning it's not a factor in the purchase....period. End of sentence. In my opinion .|
|10-02-2009 07:50 AM|
|thaduke2003||^ Yep. Anyone I've had buy a Rubi, I direct them to Parts to buy a set of winter tires and steel wheels Mark W.|
|10-02-2009 06:56 AM|
They both ride rough.
The RUBI is rougher.
If you have a lot of ice or even a little just forget about going anywhere. You will just spin in circles like a ball.
|10-01-2009 09:09 PM|
|iamagolfspaz||My 08 Rubi rides so much better than my old 06 TJ. Its actually quite comfy on my 40 mile ride to work.|
|10-01-2009 07:43 PM|
|jk'n||Well said Mark. It is a different experience dealing with a salesperson who really understands the product. It makes for a pleasant purchasing experience. If I were in the market for another Jeep, it might be worth while making the trip out to NY from Western Mass. Kudos.|
|10-01-2009 05:07 PM|
|thaduke2003||Well, most salespeople are just out to make a buck. They don't know nearly as much about the product. I drive Jeep, live Jeep, and sell Jeep, but I'm by far the exception. The folks who work with me know a fair bit, but they're far better at selling than I am. I know I lose $$ every month for knowing more about the product than the sales process, but my customers stick with me for life- Mark W.|
|10-01-2009 02:36 PM|
|Badfish||my parents have a rubi and i have an x and i actually think the rubi rides better on the street. it doest pitch and roll as much. im gonna get a set of rubi shocks and springs as soon as i can. im pretty sure you were getting the usual line of bs to get you to buy something. its sad that stealerships like these are even around it gives a bad name to the rest of the dealerships out there that arent just trying to sell as many cars as they can no matter what they have to do.|
|10-01-2009 02:09 PM|
Mark, I had the A/Ts on the Sahara and the M/Ts on the Rubicon. Slightly more noise with the windows open and barely noticeable difference on the feel of the two tire types. Occasionally I think I can actually feel a little rumble from the tires but it is only a fleeting feeling. It is hardly noticeable. Now, if I put some more serious M/Ts on there then I'm sure it will be more rough. I think the tread design on the stock muds help to lessen that effect.
|10-01-2009 02:02 PM|
|jk'n||I've gone both ways......in an 08. Had the Sahara Unlimited for about 9 months and then the Rubicon Unlimited for over a year now. THEY BOTH DRIVE ROUGH. The Sahara was my first Jeep and when I got in and started driving it, it is one of the things I liked about it. IT DRIVES LIKE A TRUCK. They both do...Sahara and Rubicon. Now, there are some trucks that drive like a car but this Jeep definitely drives like a truck. Stiff springs, stiff shocks, whatever the reason it doesn't matter. If you get one, that is one of the things you get along with it...is it's ride. I got mine so I could go off the beaten path with it and it is my DD. I enjoy even driving on the road but especially off road. On road you feel every little twitch. Not quite like a military vehicle like a hummer or whatever they call those personnel carriers, they feel like a buck board down the road. But the Jeep is definitely a stiff ride compared to most SUVs. I couldn't tell the difference between the two.|
|10-01-2009 01:59 PM|
That's crap. While I tell people that unless they NEED a Rubicon, they should look elsewhere, as the M/T's DO cause a noticably rougher ride, and SUCK on ice, which we get a lot of up here. Also, if you never plan to wheel it, it's a lot of $ for nothing gained in terms of DDing ability.
Reality sounds like that $5k of inequity is keeping you out of a Rubi, or they don't want to sell it to you- Mark W.
|10-01-2009 12:37 PM|
|Schmo||Sounds like BS to me. Is he trying to push you into an X that he's had sitting on the lot or something? I'd be curious to hear what his logic is . . . stiffer springs, shocks or what. If you plan to wheel the thing . . . there's only one choice . . . RUBICON!!!|
|10-01-2009 12:12 PM|
Does Rubi ride alot ruffer than X / Sahara?
So my salesperson calls last night...
Says he can give me another grand for my car,,, What a cowinkie dink,,, last day of the month, last day of the quarter
He also says The Rubi is alot ruffer ride than the stock Wrangler. And I wouldnt want to daily drive it. And I would need a second car. Say what?
now for a little off topic bs.
He then said if I buy this 2009 wrangler and want to sell it in 4 months or so I would have NO TROUBLE at all selling it, cause he is giving me $3k off sticker.
So......... Since me, being a non Jeep dealer, private party is going to have no trouble selling a Jeep he cant move off his lot.. and being used without the lifetime PT warrenty,, and having a few thousand on the OD ,,, will have no trouble selling it...........
I almost said,, buddy if that bs was close to being true,,, you wouldnt have a Jeep to sell me.
This is all ontop of having to refi, about $5k in negative equity.
I find it hard that he thought I or anyone would come close to buying that BS.
I do feel sorry for the folks that believe every word these sales monkey Spew.
So,,, Is the Rubbi that much more ruff on the roads than an X or Sahara?
Or just pitch that in the BS bagg also?