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Yesterday 08:14 PM
JK4HER
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I always try and call and ask "do you have in stock"
Nothing p's me off more then back ordered parts.
Amazon is usually a good place to order from too. Stock is listed .. Not sure how accurate but never had anything on BO.
Well it all worked out .... And you saved $25

that $25 worth of .............MORE JEEP MODS!
Yesterday 08:09 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by JK4HER View Post
So after much discussion with KJEEPER10 i decided to drop the hammer on a Rancho 2"sport lift w shocks for my 2dr JK. I ordered from QUADRATEC. Next day i get a confirmation of my order only to say " Backordered, Not allocated" OK...I understand that stuff goes out of stock from time to time, ESPECIALLY since Rancho just got through running a big promotion that ended june 30th. Fast froward two weeks later......NO LIFT KIT. Quadratec says its still backordered. Funny thing is, the Rancho rep says they were shipped a bunch of kits and they have PLENTY in stock. I email quadratec. NO RESPONSE in 3 days. SO, i cancelled the order, got online and found it $25 cheaper and in stock at "Rockin 4x4 . com" confirmation and shipped. Wont quit doing biz with Quadratec but NOT happy with their customer service. I NEED A LIFT kit.
I always try and call and ask "do you have in stock"
Nothing p's me off more then back ordered parts.
Amazon is usually a good place to order from too. Stock is listed .. Not sure how accurate but never had anything on BO.
Well it all worked out .... And you saved $25
Yesterday 08:03 PM
JK4HER So after much discussion with KJEEPER10 i decided to drop the hammer on a Rancho 2"sport lift w shocks for my 2dr JK. I ordered from QUADRATEC.

Next day i get a confirmation of my order only to say " Backordered, Not allocated"

OK...I understand that stuff goes out of stock from time to time, ESPECIALLY since Rancho just got through running a big promotion that ended june 30th.

Fast froward two weeks later......NO LIFT KIT.

Quadratec says its still backordered.

Funny thing is, the Rancho rep says they were shipped a bunch of kits and they have PLENTY in stock.

I email quadratec. NO RESPONSE in 3 days.

SO, i cancelled the order, got online and found it $25 cheaper and in stock at "Rockin 4x4 . com"

confirmation and shipped.

Wont quit doing biz with Quadratec but NOT happy with their customer service.

I NEED A LIFT kit.
Yesterday 11:34 AM
Dr. Evil
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Originally Posted by RFC89747 View Post
Thank you for the quick reply.

If I were to just buy the RK coils and end links is that any different than getting the TF performance leveling kit? Will they both get me 1.5 inch? Is 1.5 inch enough to have a lifted look?
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Originally Posted by Fr8dawg View Post
The RK "1.5" coils will lift you much more than 1.5". I know, it's kinda confusing/misleading. They are rated 1.5" for a heavily armored (full metal bumpers, winch, heavy skid plates, etc). On a lightweight 2 door with stock bumpers, you'll be over 2.5" maybe 3", of lift up front with the RK 1.5 coils. This will require other parts to correct suspension geometry such as adjustable track bars, lower control arms, brake line extensions, longer swaybar links.
2 door JK with aftermarket front and rear bumpers (no winch) and Rubicon Enhanced Rock Rails. I will be installing RK 1.5" coils this weekend as well as adjustable rear sway bar links, moving the stock rears to the front, Rancho 9000xl's, and Rancho Control Drop Brackets. I'll post the results in a separate thread.
Yesterday 09:54 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by RFC89747 View Post
Thank you for the quick reply. If I were to just buy the RK coils and end links is that any different than getting the TF performance leveling kit? Will they both get me 1.5 inch? Is 1.5 inch enough to have a lifted look?
Yes pretty much. Choose a shock and enough bump stop. Look at the RK "kits" at 1.5 they put together. You won't need all that stuff but give ideas for later if you wish.
Yesterday 09:53 AM
Fr8dawg The RK "1.5" coils will lift you much more than 1.5". I know, it's kinda confusing/misleading. They are rated 1.5" for a heavily armored (full metal bumpers, winch, heavy skid plates, etc). On a lightweight 2 door with stock bumpers, you'll be over 2.5" maybe 3", of lift up front with the RK 1.5 coils. This will require other parts to correct suspension geometry such as adjustable track bars, lower control arms, brake line extensions, longer swaybar links.
Yesterday 06:19 AM
RFC89747 Thank you for the quick reply.

If I were to just buy the RK coils and end links is that any different than getting the TF performance leveling kit? Will they both get me 1.5 inch? Is 1.5 inch enough to have a lifted look?
Yesterday 06:01 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by RFC89747 View Post
So I guess my next question is don't all of the links that I had in my original post include coils? What is the difference between the TF leveling kit and the RK kit that makes an $800 difference if they are both yielding 1.5 inch?
Yep .. Sorry. I missed the RE link but saw "budget boost"

The RK kits include more parts geared to expedition. You can buy just the coils if you wish.
Yesterday 05:50 AM
RFC89747
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
The new RK 1.5 triple rates are perfect for a small lift and should handle weight really well.
Most kits level the jeep but might need a front spacer running a bumper/winch. I would avoid the BB's unless running heavier rated stock coils like above. Most 4 doors will have the heavier "19/60" coils already. It's really a guessing game Shooting for a certain height w/ added weight.
So I guess my next question is don't all of the links that I had in my original post include coils? What is the difference between the TF leveling kit and the RK kit that makes an $800 difference if they are both yielding 1.5 inch?
Yesterday 05:40 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by All Terrain JK View Post
We installed the Teraflex 2.5 on my daughter's '11 and it seems to sit a tad high in the front. I should think with an aftermarket bumper and winch the stance would be perfect. A side question, I come from the TJ world where a body lift up to 1.25" is a good thing and opens up potential for other mods. Is this not the case with JKs? I rarely see them mentioned on JK forums.
A small 1-1.25 BL won't cause any issues on a JK.
TF posted a DIY install vid on youtube.

I think the reason why BL's aren't common. The JK can fit a 35 with a small 2.5" lift and flat flares/ 33's = 0 lift, The Tj needed more lift per tire size. plus non rubis driveline work in the rear (TC drop or SYE)

My TF 2.5" coils had me nose high too. TF sent me 1" spacers which leveled me.
Yesterday 05:21 AM
All Terrain JK We installed the Teraflex 2.5 on my daughter's '11 and it seems to sit a tad high in the front. I should think with an aftermarket bumper and winch the stance would be perfect.

A side question, I come from the TJ world where a body lift up to 1.25" is a good thing and opens up potential for other mods. Is this not the case with JKs? I rarely see them mentioned on JK forums.
Yesterday 03:51 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by RFC89747 View Post
So I have been reading through all of the posts (interesting and helpful info), but theres 58 pages and I'm not sure if I'll come across the exact answer id like. I'm a full newby when it comes to lifting, larger tires, etc. I have a 2012 JK Sport. I will most likely put 33's on at some point, but I kind of like the option of being able to fit 35's if I decide to go that route. Offroading will be very minimal, confined to easy trails and the occasional muddy farm. That being said the JK is my DD and I don't want to mess up the highway drive. The bumper/winch combo I will be using is Quadratec Q9500i, and Rampage recovery bumper so there will be some added weight in the front. So, since I'm not looking to make a lot of modifications for this lift I understand I want to stay under 2.5 inch. I see there are a few coil/front sway link options from 1.5 - 2.5 inch. All around the same price [Ex: Teraflex 1351502 - TeraFlex 1.5" Performance Leveling Kit for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec , JKS Manufacturing JSPEC™ 2" Standard Suspension for 07-14 JeepĀ® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec , Rubicon Express RE7121 - Rubicon Express 2.5" Budget Boost Suspension System for 07-14 JeepĀ® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec ] So my questions are, what should I go with to get some visible lift (with the added weight from the winch/bumper)? And will the jeep still look level having just added weight in the front and nothing really extra in the back?
The new RK 1.5 triple rates are perfect for a small lift and should handle weight really well.
Most kits level the jeep but might need a front spacer running a bumper/winch. I would avoid the BB's unless running heavier rated stock coils like above. Most 4 doors will have the heavier "19/60" coils already. It's really a guessing game Shooting for a certain height w/ added weight.
07-10-2014 11:36 PM
Stretchmobile We have a 2012 JKU with a TF leveling kit with Rampage recovery bumper and a 9500 lb winch. Replaced front springs with 10A springs. Great ride and lift. We have matching Rampage rear bumper and Rancho RS9000XL shocks. 32" tires, no rubbing works well on/off road.
07-10-2014 09:52 PM
RFC89747 So I have been reading through all of the posts (interesting and helpful info), but theres 58 pages and I'm not sure if I'll come across the exact answer id like.

I'm a full newby when it comes to lifting, larger tires, etc. I have a 2012 JK Sport. I will most likely put 33's on at some point, but I kind of like the option of being able to fit 35's if I decide to go that route. Offroading will be very minimal, confined to easy trails and the occasional muddy farm. That being said the JK is my DD and I don't want to mess up the highway drive. The bumper/winch combo I will be using is Quadratec Q9500i, and Rampage recovery bumper so there will be some added weight in the front.

So, since I'm not looking to make a lot of modifications for this lift I understand I want to stay under 2.5 inch. I see there are a few coil/front sway link options from 1.5 - 2.5 inch. All around the same price

[Ex: Teraflex 1351502 - TeraFlex 1.5" Performance Leveling Kit for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec , JKS Manufacturing JSPEC™ 2" Standard Suspension for 07-14 JeepĀ® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec , Rubicon Express RE7121 - Rubicon Express 2.5" Budget Boost Suspension System for 07-14 JeepĀ® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec ]

So my questions are, what should I go with to get some visible lift (with the added weight from the winch/bumper)? And will the jeep still look level having just added weight in the front and nothing really extra in the back?
07-09-2014 01:03 PM
Jetjocchris
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Caster angle won't no, but 5 degrees is borderline for a 3.5-4" lift. Keep a close eye on the driveshaft (joint at TC) How about swapping the front tires side to side ?
Copy that... Yea I tied swapping the tires but still the same. May reduce the caster a bit but I hate to play with it too much because I don't have any vibrations at all...
07-09-2014 12:42 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Jetjocchris View Post
Yes that's what I thought. I just remeasured and it seems like it's no less than 1/2 inch...at any rate my adjustable rear trac bar should be here in a few days so I will stick that on and see what happens. I really don't want to put in cross caster. I was also reading about installing a steering stabilizer like you mentioned to counteract the right pull. That seems like a better option to me.. I'm really thinking it may be the tires.. Have you heard of too much caster having any effect such as pulling to the right...? Like I said before I'm right at 5 degrees, maybe a bit too much for my particular jeep....??
Caster angle won't no, but 5 degrees is borderline for a 3.5-4" lift. Keep a close eye on the driveshaft (joint at TC)

How about swapping the front tires side to side ?
07-09-2014 11:38 AM
Jetjocchris
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Thrust axle is set with control arms. The track bar will have a small affect if offset a lot. How much lift did you get in the rear ? 5/8 seems to be a lot with a bracket.
Yes that's what I thought. I just remeasured and it seems like it's no less than 1/2 inch...at any rate my adjustable rear trac bar should be here in a few days so I will stick that on and see what happens. I really don't want to put in cross caster. I was also reading about installing a steering stabilizer like you mentioned to counteract the right pull. That seems like a better option to me.. I'm really thinking it may be the tires.. Have you heard of too much caster having any effect such as pulling to the right...? Like I said before I'm right at 5 degrees, maybe a bit too much for my particular jeep....??
07-09-2014 04:12 AM
kjeeper10 Thrust axle is set with control arms. The track bar will have a small affect if offset a lot.
How much lift did you get in the rear ? 5/8 seems to be a lot with a bracket.
07-09-2014 04:10 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Jetjocchris View Post
Just found this info on another forum, maybe my solution...!! I will try it tomorrow.. "Natural tendency for a Jake to pull to the right. It's caused by the unequal length front axle shafts turning at the same time, but having different torsional resistances. On FWD cars this was solved decades ago by using shafts with the same torsional resistance, but that's hard or impossible to do inside a solid axle housing. So, Jeep staggers the caster on the JK slightly, about .2 degrees more on the right side. Teraflex and a couple other lift kit mfrs suggest a slightly longer lower right control arm setting to correct this, about 1/8 to 1/4" ought to do it. Bear in mind all this assumes everything else is set up right. Get it on an alignment rack, get the readings and compare them to the factory specs." EDIT... Just also read that solid axles may be built with an inherit cross caster design... Can anyone confirm this for our JK's..? Another idea is that I may have a thrust issue because the rear axle is slightly outside of specs as far as being centered. Although I have a trac bar relocation bracket in the rear the axle is still outside by 5/8" and I don't have my adjustable trac bar yet... Still in transit... Any input from anyone..?
I do remember seeing that. I honestly don't know what to think. I mean, i don't see a lot of JK's with a pull. Some have to do with the tires (radial pull) Toyos are good for this.
I've seen more mention of cross caster as a for road crown.
This is only my opinion so take it for what it's worth. I think a .2-.3 difference in caster side to side is more loose manufacturing tolerances. The right way to set up CA's is to adjust so there's no bind in the bushings. Trying to force too much cross caster on a straight axle seems to cause other issues.
One fix .. I've seen people (with a right pull) install a aftermarket HD steering stabilizer. Which will combat right with a left pull.
07-08-2014 09:32 PM
Jetjocchris Just found this info on another forum, maybe my solution...!! I will try it tomorrow.. "Natural tendency for a Jake to pull to the right. It's caused by the unequal length front axle shafts turning at the same time, but having different torsional resistances. On FWD cars this was solved decades ago by using shafts with the same torsional resistance, but that's hard or impossible to do inside a solid axle housing. So, Jeep staggers the caster on the JK slightly, about .2 degrees more on the right side. Teraflex and a couple other lift kit mfrs suggest a slightly longer lower right control arm setting to correct this, about 1/8 to 1/4" ought to do it. Bear in mind all this assumes everything else is set up right. Get it on an alignment rack, get the readings and compare them to the factory specs."

EDIT...
Just also read that solid axles may be built with an inherit cross caster design... Can anyone confirm this for our JK's..?
Another idea is that I may have a thrust issue because the rear axle is slightly outside of specs as far as being centered. Although I have a trac bar relocation bracket in the rear the axle is still outside by 5/8" and I don't have my adjustable trac bar yet... Still in transit...
Any input from anyone..?
07-08-2014 06:41 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Rexenator View Post
I don't see adjustable rear bump stops on RKs website, just the fabricated ones. Am I missing something?

You're right.. They are angled to clear the swaybar links
07-08-2014 06:39 PM
LV Naturist
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Originally Posted by Maxx143 View Post

Procal...it will light up the turn signals to let you know to which side it's off and then light both when centered and aligned with the EPS sensor.
Good explanation! and thank you. Oh and thank you now I need to tell the wife I need to spend another hundred and fifty dollars !
07-08-2014 06:34 PM
Rexenator
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
How about RK ?
I don't see adjustable rear bump stops on RKs website, just the fabricated ones. Am I missing something?
07-08-2014 06:32 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Rexenator View Post
Ok, I will eventually be running 35" tires with the factory flares. I'll probably go MC adjustable fronts with TF 3" rears as suggested above (looks like MCs adjustable rears are on back order for 2-3 weeks).
How about RK ?
07-08-2014 06:11 PM
Rexenator
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Originally Posted by Maxx143 View Post
What size tires?

I'm running TF 3" rears and MC 3" (adjustable) fronts with 35s and stock fenders to be on the safe side. Could probably do 2" fronts with flat fenders and 35s.
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Yes it depends on tire size, if you're running flat flares and shock compressed lengths.
The Adjustable stops are nice. Start with a inch and add if needed. MC, RK have stackable stops,
Ok, I will eventually be running 35" tires with the factory flares. I'll probably go MC adjustable fronts with TF 3" rears as suggested above (looks like MCs adjustable rears are on back order for 2-3 weeks).
07-08-2014 04:33 PM
kjeeper10 You guys will need to reprogram for tire size. The Procal has many features and cost around $150

From AEV's site

• Correct speedometer
• "One touch" turn signals
• Clear engine codes
• Easy to use DIP switches
• Recalibrate tire pressure monitor
• Increase engine idle speed
• Optimize ESP performance
• Transfer Case calibration (2012+ JK Wrangler w/ A580 trans)
07-08-2014 04:08 PM
Maxx143
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Originally Posted by Em52 View Post
You got me curious, I just drove the jeep out and back in the garage in a straight line, then I turned the "buckle" on the drag link until the steering wheel was centered, or as close as I could eyeball it, lol. Haven't looked back since, not noticed any issues?!? Checked the instructions, nothing specific listed than what I did..... Curious to see what replies this will bring? Em...
Procal...it will light up the turn signals to let you know to which side it's off and then light both when centered and aligned with the EPS sensor.
07-08-2014 03:38 PM
Em52
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Originally Posted by LV Naturist View Post
I did search, but got impatient... Getting ready to install the AEV 2.5 lift. When re-centering the steering wheel (by adjusting the drag link?), what is the trick to knowing where true center is? Thanks... John
You got me curious, I just drove the jeep out and back in the garage in a straight line, then I turned the "buckle" on the drag link until the steering wheel was centered, or as close as I could eyeball it, lol. Haven't looked back since, not noticed any issues?!? Checked the instructions, nothing specific listed than what I did..... Curious to see what replies this will bring?

Em...
07-08-2014 02:27 PM
LV Naturist Thanks Flyfishnevada and Kjeeper10 for the quick reply. Basically trial and error without the ProCal. Just trying to keep costs down. After this weekends Jeep run, a damaged tire led to new tires and rims, then the need for a lift, and... You know the deal.

Bought a set of 285 75R17 Toyo Open Country A/T II XT's and Level 8 Punch wheels. I'm thinking they'll be okay for a little while without a lift, but used it as an excuse to go ahead and order the lift. This was NOT in the budget at this time though.

John
07-08-2014 02:05 PM
kjeeper10 Yes it depends on tire size, if you're running flat flares and shock compressed lengths.
The Adjustable stops are nice. Start with a inch and add if needed. MC, RK have stackable stops,
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