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Yesterday 05:43 PM
mikeJKUR
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Originally Posted by danrb View Post
If you have three arms it's easy. lol I just needed help with bolt torque. The jam nuts are a pain for the track bars and upper control arms. You have to do some trial and error or your joint end up out of phase. So torque the Jam nut see how much the Jam nut moves the joint and prep both ends by accounting for that much movement. I did it in the vehicle.

Also, do the bolt upgrade as you install not after the install. Give me a holler if you need any help.
I probably will. If anything just to see yours. Sometimes just seeing stuff installed help me figure it out.
Yesterday 04:28 PM
Famtruckster14 Thank you to KJeeper and everyone else.

Thanks Mike, that was the push I needed.
Yesterday 04:07 PM
kjeeper10 Yea I agree, those jam nuts are a pain in the ass.
Manufactures ... If your listening. Weld a hex or machine flats on each end of your CA's/track bars. MUCH easier to hold joint orientation and torque
Yesterday 04:01 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by danrb View Post
If you have three arms it's easy. lol I just needed help with bolt torque. The jam nuts are a pain for the track bars and upper control arms. You have to do some trial and error or your joint end up out of phase. So torque the Jam nut see how much the Jam nut moves the joint and prep both ends by accounting for that much movement. I did it in the vehicle. Also, do the bolt upgrade as you install not after the install. Give me a holler if you need any help.
Front
Measure first. When you undue the track bar, jump on the front bumper a couple times. This should center the body over the axle.
If not take the new track bar and add 1/2 your measurement. Within 1/8 either way is fine.
Tip: Turning the steering wheel will align the holes.

Rear
Same idea but it's a little harder to measure and move the body over. A ratchet strap or another person can help getting the holes lined up.
Yesterday 03:51 PM
danrb
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Originally Posted by mikeJKUR View Post
Dan, I see you are in VA. Any tips with the track bar install?
If you have three arms it's easy. lol I just needed help with bolt torque. The jam nuts are a pain for the track bars and upper control arms. You have to do some trial and error or your joint end up out of phase. So torque the Jam nut see how much the Jam nut moves the joint and prep both ends by accounting for that much movement. I did it in the vehicle.

Also, do the bolt upgrade as you install not after the install. Give me a holler if you need any help.
Yesterday 03:38 PM
mikeJKUR
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Originally Posted by danrb View Post
Made a huge difference. Don't know if it's in their instructions. You probably paid attention to the way they were facing before. Something to keep in the back of your head when someone asks you about RK rear springs bowing.

Nice thing is I'm getting pretty fast at taking apart my lift adjusting and reinstalling. lol
Dan, I see you are in VA. Any tips with the track bar install?
Yesterday 03:30 PM
mikeJKUR
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Originally Posted by Famtruckster14 View Post
Lol...... Mike, that looks really nice!!! That is about the stance I was looking for. I was worried about weight and also that with the 4dr you wouldn't notice much difference in height. Glad you have the extra weight it makes me feel better about buying it. As far as driving do you notice the weight in front?
I have had everything else on the Jeep for a few months with a 3/4 spacer lift and there is a noticeable difference is hight and ride now.
These coils with the Bilstein shocks handle the weight so much better then the stock coils. I had 19/60 coils. Before when going over bumps on the road I could feel the weight on the front end. now it feels like nothing is there.

Is been a busy month so I have been installing the parts in stages. It is giv2 me the opportunity to see and feel the difference as I add parts.
Yesterday 03:30 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by danrb View Post
Made a huge difference. Don't know if it's in their instructions. You probably paid attention to the way they were facing before. Something to keep in the back of your head when someone asks you about RK rear springs bowing. Nice thing is I'm getting pretty fast at taking apart my lift adjusting and reinstalling. lol
Ha !! know the feeling.
Yesterday 03:27 PM
danrb
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Sh**t I don't have a coil bow issue with the wedges. Don't think I paid attention to position.
Good to know ... Thanks.
Made a huge difference. Don't know if it's in their instructions. You probably paid attention to the way they were facing before. Something to keep in the back of your head when someone asks you about RK rear springs bowing.

Nice thing is I'm getting pretty fast at taking apart my lift adjusting and reinstalling. lol
Yesterday 03:23 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by danrb View Post
Newby Lesson here. I installed an RK 3.5 X Factor. Didn't pay attention to the rear spring positions. It matters. I just corrected them. The bottom end of the spring needs to be facing the rear in the install see before and after pics. It cause my springs to bow. Before (end of coil in wrong place). After (bottom end of coil facing backwards).
Sh**t I don't have a coil bow issue with the wedges. Don't think I paid attention to position.
Good to know ... Thanks.
Yesterday 03:20 PM
danrb Newby Lesson here.

I installed an RK 3.5 X Factor. Didn't pay attention to the rear spring positions. It matters. I just corrected them. The bottom end of the spring needs to be facing the rear in the install see before and after pics. It cause my springs to bow.

Before (end of coil in wrong place).
Attachment 1758865

After (bottom end of coil facing backwards).
Attachment 1758873
Yesterday 03:17 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Famtruckster14 View Post
KJepper, thanks. One last question. Should I get the full RK 1.5 Expedition kit or the RK 1.5 Expedition stock mod without the LCA's and add them later if necessary? Or just buck up and do it now while it's apart? Sorry I guess that's 2 questions.....
Lol
That's more personal choice. But I would say go for the gusto if you can swing it. Retail on the site shows $999, venders include shocks
http://www.rivercityoffroad.com/mobi...e=RKJK15ES-PKG
Can't beat this ^^
Jeremy from Krawl is on the forum today. Shoot him this link and see what he can do.
Yesterday 02:47 PM
Famtruckster14 KJepper, thanks.

One last question. Should I get the full RK 1.5 Expedition kit or the RK 1.5 Expedition stock mod without the LCA's and add them later if necessary? Or just buck up and do it now while it's apart?

Sorry I guess that's 2 questions.....
Yesterday 02:22 PM
FingerTight
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Depends on number/rate but generally no
Good to know, I stand corrected
Yesterday 02:21 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by VaderJK12 View Post
Yeah 29/30 Ranchos. It is a popular setup. I feel that, this setup is sufficient for what I want/need.
Yep, I agree.
Yesterday 02:20 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Famtruckster14 View Post
Lol...... Mike, that looks really nice!!! That is about the stance I was looking for. I was worried about weight and also that with the 4dr you wouldn't notice much difference in height. Glad you have the extra weight it makes me feel better about buying it. As far as driving do you notice the weight in front? KJeeper, So other than say a TF track bar and bolt upgrade kit is there anything you would need to order right away to make it work or work well, other than shocks, considering it is a DD/MC? Or are there parts that you recommend I can buy as money allows to improve on it and not make it overkill for its actual use. Also I saw one bundle that bundled Fox 2.0 shocks with the RK 1.5 Expedition kit. Worth getting or stick with the 9000adj?
I'd say the bolt kit adds insurance. Axle shift won't be a problem at that height. You can add a track bar if you like, it's definitely not necessary.
Yesterday 02:11 PM
VaderJK12
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
29/30 Ranchos ?
The TF 2.5 is a great upgrade. As you know popular with the 9000's.
Yeah 29/30 Ranchos. It is a popular setup. I feel that, this setup is sufficient for what I want/need.
Yesterday 02:07 PM
Famtruckster14 Lol...... Mike, that looks really nice!!! That is about the stance I was looking for. I was worried about weight and also that with the 4dr you wouldn't notice much difference in height. Glad you have the extra weight it makes me feel better about buying it. As far as driving do you notice the weight in front?

KJeeper,
So other than say a TF track bar and bolt upgrade kit is there anything you would need to order right away to make it work or work well, other than shocks, considering it is a DD/MC? Or are there parts that you recommend I can buy as money allows to improve on it and not make it overkill for its actual use. Also I saw one bundle that bundled Fox 2.0 shocks with the RK 1.5 Expedition kit. Worth getting or stick with the 9000adj?
Yesterday 01:41 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by VaderJK12 View Post
Any thoughts on going down that path?
29/30 Ranchos ?
The TF 2.5 is a great upgrade. As you know popular with the 9000's.
Yesterday 01:37 PM
VaderJK12
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Gotcha
Any thoughts on going down that path?
Yesterday 01:14 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by VaderJK12 View Post
The spacer kit with front sway bar link.
Gotcha
Yesterday 01:07 PM
VaderJK12
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Do you have the spacer kit or performance leveling kit ?
The spacer kit with front sway bar link.
Yesterday 01:00 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by FingerTight View Post
I'd think stock springs would handle that weight just fine yea?
Depends on number/rate but generally no
Yesterday 12:57 PM
FingerTight I'd think stock springs would handle that weight just fine yea?
Yesterday 12:54 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by VaderJK12 View Post
That's the path I'm thinking about also. Currently have the TF leveling kit but would like to upgrade to the 2.5 TF w/o shocks since I have the Rancho 9000 sitting in my garage currently. I also have 33s but figured with new bumpers, the lift will handle the weight better than the leveling kit.
Do you have the spacer kit or performance leveling kit ?
Yesterday 12:52 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by mikeJKUR View Post
that is what I got for for my JKUR from river city off road. I did add the LCAs so i guess that made it a 1.5 flex system. http://www.rivercityoffroad.com/Rock...jk15sm-pkg.htm
This ^ Marcus has some killer deals including shocks (which is nice)
Drive the setup around for a while. The nice thing about LCA's. You can easily add them later.
Yesterday 12:47 PM
VaderJK12
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Originally Posted by Famtruckster14 View Post
3) TF 2.5 w/o shocks ( want the Rancho 9000 adj after reading everything).
That's the path I'm thinking about also. Currently have the TF leveling kit but would like to upgrade to the 2.5 TF w/o shocks since I have the Rancho 9000 sitting in my garage currently. I also have 33s but figured with new bumpers, the lift will handle the weight better than the leveling kit.
Yesterday 12:40 PM
mikeJKUR
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Originally Posted by Famtruckster14 View Post
As soon as I have everything I will definitely start a build thread.

I looked into the TF performance leveling Kit. But as I kept reading more about it there seemed to be a chance it would not hold up to extra weight. I like the RK 1.5" but again worried about the weight, but like the fact I can get it in a stock mod config. Reading this thread it seems LCA's on that kit are overkill. Although it seems RK has beefier spring that people say would hold the weight. But I think 33's on a 2.5" look ok and as I add weight I have that extra clearance.

Mike do you have any pics? What size tires did you go with and are you happy with how it turned out?
Of course I have pictures. What Wrangler own doesn't?


As you can see in the picture I have a bumper and winch in the front. The springs handle the weight excellently. I have the stock Rubicon tires so 32s.

I would say even with a 1.5 lift no matter who the manufacturers is front lower control arms are needed to correct the caster angle.
Yesterday 11:59 AM
Famtruckster14 As soon as I have everything I will definitely start a build thread.

I looked into the TF performance leveling Kit. But as I kept reading more about it there seemed to be a chance it would not hold up to extra weight. I like the RK 1.5" but again worried about the weight, but like the fact I can get it in a stock mod config. Reading this thread it seems LCA's on that kit are overkill. Although it seems RK has beefier spring that people say would hold the weight. But I think 33's on a 2.5" look ok and as I add weight I have that extra clearance.

Mike do you have any pics? What size tires did you go with and are you happy with how it turned out?
Yesterday 11:46 AM
mikeJKUR
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Originally Posted by Famtruckster14 View Post

1) RK 1.5" Expedition ( I did see a vendor selling it as a stock mod w/o LCA's )
that is what I got for for my JKUR from river city off road. I did add the LCAs so i guess that made it a 1.5 flex system.
http://www.rivercityoffroad.com/Rock...jk15sm-pkg.htm
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