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11-01-2009 09:52 AM
kdukes4 Body and Motor Mount Lifts
11-01-2009 09:50 AM
Schmo Stay with a 1 or 1.25 BL . . . will be plenty along with your 2" BB to clear the 33's and with a 4" suspension lift would be plenty to clear the 35's if you decide to go that route in the future (be ready to really open up the check book on that one though as your talking, a whole new suspension, SYE, DS, beefing up the axles, new gears, etc, etc, etc) There's just no good reason to go over 1.25 on a BL.

daanbc - I'm trying to understand why you decided to install a 2" BL to clear the 31's vs a 2" BB instead? Seems like both would be in the same ball park when you look at cost, but when you consider things like performance, safety, looks, etc the BB is far superior.
11-01-2009 09:35 AM
kdukes4 hey jeep 95, i'm sorta novice on this area but to my knowledge, every jeep is different. and depending on how high you go for a BL is gonna determine whether you need to make some adjustments. a new driveshaft and SYE are not gonna be needed if you're doing something like 1.25 or 1" of lift. you can keep your driveshaft even if you go higher than 1.25" just get a MML or drop the TC more. however, you may need to do the tc drop if you get driveline vibes. look it up online i thought i had the link on my favs, but i cant find it. there's an article that goes throguh the basics. you might even find the link in a thread in here. GL!
11-01-2009 09:09 AM
jeep95 Does installing a body lift require modifications (tc drop, new driveshaft, SYE, etc.)?
10-30-2009 11:18 PM
baja
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
I also had a 2" BL and 2" BB and there was no probloem on the "Autobahn" with speeds up to 100 mph.
I couldn't possibly image driving my jeep 100 mph.My brother in law lived in Heidleberg(spelling?)and he has a ss impala that he had shipped from the states and had the pleasure of cruising it on the autobahn.He's in Afganistan now,his wife and the car are back home,she says driving it now is like driving backwards! Don't mean to hijack.
10-30-2009 07:29 PM
jeep95 Do 1" body lifts require modifications to install(tc drop, new driveshaft, sye, etc.)?
10-25-2009 10:28 PM
BeepBeepImaJeep nice! thanks for your advice, i recently got on my local highway, and couldn't get my jeep to 85MPH

(i know, i know don't speed)

but i was trying to convince my father my jeep ***had*** to have new gears lol

hmmm 4.56's would be pretty awesome.

with my 4.0L 2" BB and 33" AT tires... i have to floor it for awhile just to get to 70, then its a REALLY REALLY slow hard climb to 85, and that's all she wrote, wouldn't go faster.

i told him with the 33"s the jeep wouldn't do 75 MPH. but it did eventually so i lost. ( he agree'd he would pay for new gears if i couldn't do it.)

but the last time i got on the highway, i had to change lanes so everyone could past me because i couldn't hold 70MPH on the hills. kinda mad me sad, but its whatever, i only get on the highway like once in a blue moon.
10-25-2009 10:09 PM
nicolas-eric I also had a 2" BL and 2" BB and there was no probloem on the "Autobahn" with speeds up to 100 mph.
10-25-2009 10:06 PM
BeepBeepImaJeep cool sounds awesome, that would keep me from getting a T-case? which IMO look terrible.

as for my want of the 2":

1. I get off the pavement, but I don't run hard trails with large obstacles, its like two trac dirt trails on friends land, with some mudding here and there. so i do want my 33" to clear any amount of flex that they want. P.S.- i don't have to worry about hard recovery's or lots of stress on the spacers. (i know the 1.25" will do but still )
2. my jeep is mostly on pavement, 50MPH and under, i never get on the highway, and if i do its for maybe 5 minutes.
3. I really want 4" of lift and can't afford anything else, to be straight honest, its the small man syndrome in me, i gotta make this thing bigger than any other jeep i know. lol
10-25-2009 09:57 PM
nicolas-eric With a 1" BL ad a 1" MML you donīt need the drop brackets because you rise the fan shroud (1" BL) and the fan (1" MML).

With a 2" BL (lifts the fan shrould 1") and a 1" MML (lifts the fan 1") you have to drop the radiator and fan should 1".

I would install a 1" MML because teh rear driveline angle becomes better and there are no more driveshaft vibes that you could have with a 2" budget boost lift that you already have.
10-25-2009 09:50 PM
BeepBeepImaJeep so with the 2" BL,one that comes with the radiator drop brackets, do i even need the MML? or is that so that ppl don't need the drop brackets in the first place?
10-25-2009 09:47 PM
nicolas-eric there is no 1" MML.

install a 1.25" BL and a 1 MML.

or if you want to install a 2" BL with a 1" MML you have to drill 4holes in the radiator trop brackets (comes with the BL) that teh radiator drops only 1" and not 2".

and no you donīt need longer brake lines.
10-25-2009 09:40 PM
BeepBeepImaJeep
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Originally Posted by daanbc View Post
Why would you expect vibes from the BL? I don't have any. It only effects the body/tub of your jeep. Nothing mechanical. The shifters just go thru the hole in the tub. With a 2 inch or less you will not need brake line extensions either. If you get a good BL it'll come with good instructions-easy to follow with pic's. Or google it-type in jeep body lift instructions. There's alot of info out there on the web to help you out. Don't be affraid to use it. As for what "YjPoWeR93" say's=he's intitled to his opinions. That's what makes jeeps great. Everyone has there own idea of what they like and don't like. I myself like the look. I am also mostly a mall driver=LOL I do very little off roading. I drive to and from work, and use it to tow my boat. So it made sense to me to do it this way. Easy & Cheap. Done in a half a day.
I expect more vibes, because i have a some tiny vibes now from my 2" BB.

so the 2" bb + the 2" bl might make it worse. most say get the MML with the BL... so is there a 2" MML with the 2" BL?

with the 2" BB plus adding a 2" BL will i need brake line extenders?
10-25-2009 09:39 PM
daanbc
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Originally Posted by BillyBoy View Post
WHY????? It doesn't look like you offroad much.
Read reply #23 for your answer.
10-25-2009 07:51 PM
BillyBoy
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Originally Posted by daanbc View Post
This is mine with a two inch bodylift and 31's.
WHY????? It doesn't look like you offroad much.
10-25-2009 07:38 PM
jeep95 If you recommend a suspension lift, what lift do you recommend? I would be looking at 2-3", so would that require modification to install?
10-25-2009 07:00 PM
daanbc
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Originally Posted by BeepBeepImaJeep View Post
dannbc - thanks a million, i mean the advice you gave me has made me look more into the 2" BL. I just need to know wether to buy a 1inch MML and a T-case drop kit, or one or the other... to make sure i dont get vibes.
Why would you expect vibes from the BL? I don't have any. It only effects the body/tub of your jeep. Nothing mechanical. The shifters just go thru the hole in the tub. With a 2 inch or less you will not need brake line extensions either. If you get a good BL it'll come with good instructions-easy to follow with pic's. Or google it-type in jeep body lift instructions. There's alot of info out there on the web to help you out. Don't be affraid to use it. As for what "YjPoWeR93" say's=he's intitled to his opinions. That's what makes jeeps great. Everyone has there own idea of what they like and don't like. I myself like the look. I am also mostly a mall driver=LOL I do very little off roading. I drive to and from work, and use it to tow my boat. So it made sense to me to do it this way. Easy & Cheap. Done in a half a day.
10-25-2009 01:37 PM
BeepBeepImaJeep dannbc - thanks a million, i mean the advice you gave me has made me look more into the 2" BL. I just need to know wether to buy a 1inch MML and a T-case drop kit, or one or the other... to make sure i dont get vibes.
10-25-2009 08:45 AM
YjPoWeR93 if ur gonna spend the money please do not put in body lift its a waist!! i hate to look of the spacers in between body and frame.. why not just by spacers to go on top of your coils and its not much more $ at all!! looks ALOT beter also!
10-25-2009 08:39 AM
daanbc
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Originally Posted by jeep95 View Post
Do you like your body lift? Did it require any modifications to install? Does it wear down/put stress on any other parts?
It was very easy to install. Did it myself in a couple hours. No stress on anything with a 2". When you go bigger then that, then there's modification. With a two inch, the hardest part is raising the radiator. But the brackets are in the parts. I say hardest meaning=pain in the butt to get to two bolts/screws. When I did mine I actually purchased a NEW radiator. So I just took the old one out, did the lift and installed the new one. I have an auto. There was no need to increase the shifter. They give you a piece to extend it. But to be honest. You don't need it and don't notice anything. The only adjustment is for the 4wd linkage. Thats solved by loosening up one bolt and shifting the shifter, then go underneath and tighten it. I did mine because I was cheap and easy to do. I wanted 31's not the 29's that were on it when it was purchased. And wanted to raise it a bit. I like the look of it much better. As for handling= I have no problems. If I choose I can still go off the freeway ramps at 45-50mph without a problem. To me the center of gravity did not change all that much. Maybe because I have more rubber on the road now, making tracktion. LOL.
10-25-2009 01:49 AM
kdukes4 what kind of lift do you really want? the BL will just put you up higher and play around with the entire structual integrity of the jeep. since you're on a BB right now, why not take the BB out and put in a solid suspension lift??

i was in the same category as you about three weeks ago... i started this summer off with some 31's then addded the 2"bb with skyjackers.... added a new front bumper, then decided i wanted to go bigger...now im on 33's with the zj springs up front and the stock front coils in the rear which have me totalling a 3" suspension lift. next to come is the 1" BL which will be plenty for me, 4" overall! most definitely a 1" MML to go with it too. i have some buds in our local club who ride with 2" + BL's sure it looks great but like i've said before, when they move side to side while recovering off of a ledge etc. uggh it kinda gives you the creeps thinking that 11 bolts are holding that tub together, i mean what if its you're DD and you're on the highway and you have to jerk the wheel? just something to think about. I'm not discouraging the 2" BL, but if you're gonna do it, i guess you should just be smart on what you plan to use your jeep for, thats all!
10-24-2009 11:56 PM
BeepBeepImaJeep jeep95 - I feel you on the bodylift curiosity. i have a 2" BB on stock springs... drives great.

im on 33's but want more lift, I'm on road 95% of the time so im torn between a 2" Bodylift, and a 1.25" from JKS. everyone says stay under 2", dose that include not using the 2" BL's?

if im going to spend 119? why not get another inch for like 30 bucks more. you'll notice it more, and ill just cover the space with gap covers.

hopefully this thread can help me decide.
10-24-2009 10:29 PM
jeep95
Quote:
Originally Posted by daanbc View Post
This is mine with a two inch bodylift and 31's.
Do you like your body lift? Did it require any modifications to install? Does it wear down/put stress on any other parts?
10-24-2009 08:46 PM
daanbc This is mine with a two inch bodylift and 31's.
10-24-2009 07:24 PM
kdukes4
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Originally Posted by jeep95 View Post
Can you add some pictures of your lift? I would like to get some ideas for my wrangler.
ya no problems here ya go. Sorry about the second pic its a little blurry, my battery was dead and couldn't even focus...

before:
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after:
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i'll see if i can get some better pics up it tomorrow. Look for a new thread called something like "zj coil spring modification" i couldn't find anything about the modification in this forum and figured i mine as well make a thread about it for others i'll proabbly add the lift into that "lift review" sticky
10-24-2009 04:09 PM
Jma20a i went with the tera flex 2"BB and later down the road i got a full set of ome shocks and steering stabilizer.
10-24-2009 02:09 PM
njkeagle This is when I used to have a 2" Skyjacker with hydro shocks. I really liked it and it wasn't rubbing too much. I looks pretty good and it got me through some tough trails. If you are not looking to do anything crazy thats the way I would go. 2" and 32's

10-24-2009 11:05 AM
jeep95
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Originally Posted by kdukes4 View Post
they're not that hard to install, takes b/w 1-2 hours usually. everyone here will tell you that you need to stay under 2" majority of people run 1 or 1 1/4 inch BL's. once you go higher you've got some differences in strucutal integrity, geometry, center of gravity, etc, a definte change in drive which may not workout for a daily driver. i'm going with a 1" bl with a 1" jks motor mount lift (mml) before winter gets here.

i had a BB with skyjackers and loved it, still do actually, i just took out the stock springs and added a pair of zj's in there.
Can you add some pictures of your lift? I would like to get some ideas for my wrangler.
10-24-2009 10:33 AM
kdukes4 they're not that hard to install, takes b/w 1-2 hours usually. everyone here will tell you that you need to stay under 2" majority of people run 1 or 1 1/4 inch BL's. once you go higher you've got some differences in strucutal integrity, geometry, center of gravity, etc, a definte change in drive which may not workout for a daily driver. i'm going with a 1" bl with a 1" jks motor mount lift (mml) before winter gets here.

i had a BB with skyjackers and loved it, still do actually, i just took out the stock springs and added a pair of zj's in there.
10-24-2009 09:23 AM
jeep95
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Originally Posted by motokeen View Post
Should be. I offroad as much as possible so I want more clearance so I am only getting 31s. The 31s I am getting are almost as tall as 32s. It also depends on how wide you are going. 11.5 or 12.5. The 31s are only 10.5 but I intend on using sway bar disconects. If you get 32s and offroad enough to rub a little just add a 1inch body lift. A 1 inch body lift is only like 80 to 100 dollars.
Are body lifts easy to install, and do people like them?
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