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Today 08:24 PM
GarageDays
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Originally Posted by ElectricJay View Post

Hi Bob. I have been running that Tf BB for almost 2 years now. I went with the Tereflex shocks and JKS Discos. If I could change one thing to do over, it would be Rancho 9000 shocks as Ken recommended. Good luck!
S3 on the Rancho 9000 series!
Today 08:20 PM
ElectricJay
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Originally Posted by BobK View Post
KJeeper10, many thanks for good info. You've confirmed my thoughts about using the TF kit with the inclusion of the swaybar links, which I had hoped solved a few geometry issues.
Hi Bob. I have been running that Tf BB for almost 2 years now. I went with the Tereflex shocks and JKS Discos. If I could change one thing to do over, it would be Rancho 9000 shocks as Ken recommended. Good luck!
Today 01:50 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by BobK View Post
KJeeper10, many thanks for good info. You've confirmed my thoughts about using the TF kit with the inclusion of the swaybar links, which I had hoped solved a few geometry issues.
It's important to keep the sway bars flat to the ground +/5 degrees. The TF kit supply's new longer rears only. The stock rears are moved to the front given their longer lengths.
Today 12:20 PM
BobK KJeeper10, many thanks for good info. You've confirmed my thoughts about using the TF kit with the inclusion of the swaybar links, which I had hoped solved a few geometry issues.
Today 11:31 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by BobK View Post
First thing, I am a newbie to the Forum, but not to Jeep ownership. My 2012 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited is my fifth Jeep (that just makes me old) but my first that I am considering making "non stock". While I am not a "wheeler" at least not yet, I am looking to make my Rubi look a bit more aggressive.

My plan is to install new wheels (black and chrome alloy) and larger tires (likely 35 inch) after that I have become lost with all the alternatives and ramifications. I will appreciate the responses (and continuation of this great thread). In order to install the larger tires, here is what I have been thinking about after visiting a local Jeep aftermarket shop. Either a Daystar ComfortRide coil lift kit ( they tell me they will put 3 in on the front and 2 1/2 on the rear to level it out, along with Scorpion shocks OR a Teraflex 2 1/2 Budget Booster lift kit with shocks (not adapters).

Question 1 is should I have a preference between these two options?

See #2

Question 2 - I've read about issues with any of these kits requiring further changes to sway bars, exhaust, and or axles. Is this something I have to be concerned about with a daily driver that will likely not see the Rubicon Trail?

Ok ...
If you go with the TF 2.5" budget boost, all you need is included ie swaybar links, bumpstops, etc


Question 3 - when considering wheels and tires I understand the issue of hub centric and am looking at a set of wheel from Rugged Ridge that are hub centric. But I am a bit lost when it comes to the issue of back spacing, spacers, etc. the 17 inch wheels I am considering are 9 inches wide with a backspace of 4.53. Does this work? Will I need spacers only if I run the stock wheels and tires until I can buy the wheels?

Yep, spacers are used because the factory wheels have a back space of 6.25
Running a wider tire will rub at full turn and interfere with other components
4.5 is about where you want to be. AEV wheels iirc are 5.25 so 4.53 will work out just fine.


Question 4 - Given that I want a more aggressive look but don't plan on tackling a 5 rated trail, I'd prefer not having extreme off-road tires due to excessive road noise at highway speeds. Is there a recommendation for a tire that meets the looks criteria but is suitable for around town and highway driving?

GoodYear Duratrac is a nice AT tire and very popular. The Nitto trail grappler, BF has a new AT out (I think). Those would be my choices.

Thanks to anyone/everyone who helps an old guy out.

Bob
Welcome to the forum Bob. Answers in red
I would also recommend Rancho 9000
Adjustable shocks. The part numbers are 29xl front and 30xl rear that will work perfect with 2.5" of lift. You will have to act quick to take advantage of the rebate. I believe it ends at the end of October.

Ken
Today 11:08 AM
BobK First thing, I am a newbie to the Forum, but not to Jeep ownership. My 2012 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited is my fifth Jeep (that just makes me old) but my first that I am considering making "non stock". While I am not a "wheeler" at least not yet, I am looking to make my Rubi look a bit more aggressive.

My plan is to install new wheels (black and chrome alloy) and larger tires (likely 35 inch) after that I have become lost with all the alternatives and ramifications. I will appreciate the responses (and continuation of this great thread). In order to install the larger tires, here is what I have been thinking about after visiting a local Jeep aftermarket shop. Either a Daystar ComfortRide coil lift kit ( they tell me they will put 3 in on the front and 2 1/2 on the rear to level it out, along with Scorpion shocks OR a Teraflex 2 1/2 Budget Booster lift kit with shocks (not adapters).

Question 1 is should I have a preference between these two options?

Question 2 - I've read about issues with any of these kits requiring further changes to sway bars, exhaust, and or axles. Is this something I have to be concerned about with a daily driver that will likely not see the Rubicon Trail?

Question 3 - when considering wheels and tires I understand the issue of hub centric and am looking at a set of wheel from Rugged Ridge that are hub centric. But I am a bit lost when it comes to the issue of back spacing, spacers, etc. the 17 inch wheels I am considering are 9 inches wide with a backspace of 4.53. Does this work? Will I need spacers only if I run the stock wheels and tires until I can buy the wheels?

Question 4 - Given that I want a more aggressive look but don't plan on tackling a 5 rated trail, I'd prefer not having extreme off-road tires due to excessive road noise at highway speeds. Is there a recommendation for a tire that meets the looks criteria but is suitable for around town and highway driving?

Thanks to anyone/everyone who helps an old guy out.

Bob
Today 11:00 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by 78S_106E View Post
Want to give props to kjeeper and this site. Got my lift installed recently, after weeks of reading and bouncing ideas around inside this thread lol. I'm now a contributing member...couldn't "not" contribute after my lift went so smoothly!
Awesome stuff. I'll go and check out your build thread now.
Today 10:28 AM
78S_106E Want to give props to kjeeper and this site. Got my lift installed recently, after weeks of reading and bouncing ideas around inside this thread lol. I'm now a contributing member...couldn't "not" contribute after my lift went so smoothly!
Today 07:11 AM
scj64 It's just a toy for my wife and I to run around in on the weekend and go play off-road some. Plus I have some property I like to mess around on as well.

With the cost of the Polaris Rangers now. I'd rather have this and get it up high enough to keep it out of the lower brush, stumps and rocks and not have to haul a toy to an off-road event.

Really wanting 37's but then I'll have to regear as it has to maintain performance on the road.
Today 04:20 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by scj64 View Post
I ordered MetalCloak kit yesterday. Is there a preferred steering stabilizer needed with the 35's I'm going to run? I read in another post I may need to look at the driveshaft? JK Wrangler 3.5" Old Man Emu Duroflex Mid-Arm Suspension System BTW, Jeep is '15 2 door Rubicon Hard Rock and I ordered the 3 1/2" kit
That's a tall lift for a light 2 door. Can I ask why you chose 3.5" ? You'll be able to correct pinion angles with the control arms. Front will be a safe balance between caster and pinion angle. Most people set for 4* caster to start. The rear, you want the pinion a couple degrees lower than the driveshaft. Sooner or later you will need driveshafts both front and back. You don't have to rush out and buy them. Just jeep a close eye on the yokes connected to the TC for grease splatter or ticking noises.

Nice choice in kit BTW. I'm too cheap and still piecing it all together. Usually leading to more $$ spend in the long haul
Today 04:10 AM
scj64 I ordered MetalCloak kit yesterday. Is there a preferred steering stabilizer needed with the 35's I'm going to run? I read in another post I may need to look at the driveshaft?
JK Wrangler 3.5" Old Man Emu Duroflex Mid-Arm Suspension System

BTW, Jeep is '15 2 door Rubicon Hard Rock and I ordered the 3 1/2" kit
Today 03:34 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
Okay kjeeper.. Got an alignment done, tires rebalanced (first time shop did it with center rings still in wheels), and got the wheel spacers today. Now I have a MUCH improved ride but there is still certain roads that cause my steering wheel to pulsate right around 40mph. Some roads I am fine when I am moving at 60mph. So what would an aftermarket steering stabilizer do? And is there anything else I can do to fix this problem?
Did the tech try moving the tires around ?
Does it happen on all roads at 40mph ?
I know we have a stretch of road that vibrates the jeep. When I drive my van, the vibration is a lot faster/tighter because the tires are smaller.

You can try moving the tires front to rear.
Don't do both at the same time. Do one side, drive it and see if the pulse goes away. If it does you know THAT tire or wheel still has a issue.
If it's a consistent pulse .. I can almost guarantee it's a balance issue, or maybe even the road. I've had plenty of dealings with tire shops that don't seem to care.


Fyi, a steering stabilizer will help tighten things up but it won't fix a tire balance issue
Yesterday 09:47 PM
Ndig29 Okay kjeeper.. Got an alignment done, tires rebalanced (first time shop did it with center rings still in wheels), and got the wheel spacers today. Now I have a MUCH improved ride but there is still certain roads that cause my steering wheel to pulsate right around 40mph. Some roads I am fine when I am moving at 60mph. So what would an aftermarket steering stabilizer do? And is there anything else I can do to fix this problem?
Yesterday 08:32 PM
Bugarte
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Fixed you right up ^^
Thanks so much going to get right on it I'll be sure to post some pics up as soon as I get started
Yesterday 08:18 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Bugarte View Post
Ok just so I know I got this right so far I'm going to get : cut the fenders- free Teraflex 2.5" lift kit no shocks - $480 Ranchos 9000xl shocks. $320 - $80 rebate = $240 (29xl front and 30xl rear) Ranchos lower control arm brackets - $120 Synergy drop bracket kit - $65
Fixed you right up ^^
Yesterday 07:59 PM
Bugarte
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Here you go. http://www.quadratec.com/products/16190_2502_07.htm Unless you want the shocks ? Or take advantage of Rancho's rebate on the 9000's 29xl front and 30xl rear. I lost count how many people are running this setup on here.
Ok just so I know I got this right so far I'm going to get :

cut the fenders- free
Teraflex 2.5" lift kit no shocks - $480
Ranchos 9000xl shocks. $320 - $80 rebate = $240 (29xl front and 30xl rear)
Ranchos lower control arm brackets - $120
Synergy drop bracket kit - $65
Yesterday 07:50 PM
MrSteve Next time I have a plan!!! God blessed us jeepers with a work around for the anti jeeper( wife on a budget)!!!!
Its a very small window that we have to order parts and not suffer their wrath!!! It moves around and depends on how "nice" you have been. The key is to time the ups visit at the apex of the "window"!!!! :-)
Yesterday 07:45 PM
kjeeper10 Enjoy it
Yesterday 07:42 PM
Dr. Evil
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Originally Posted by MrSteve View Post
I owe it all to you kjeeper. Your wisdom and experience helped me make the decision. So tonight while I sleep on the couch because ups drooped it off before I got home and my wife was there to accept it I will sleep soundly and with a proud jeeper smile.
Yesterday 07:37 PM
MrSteve I owe it all to you kjeeper. Your wisdom and experience helped me make the decision. So tonight while I sleep on the couch because ups drooped it off before I got home and my wife was there to accept it I will sleep soundly and with a proud jeeper smile.
Yesterday 07:29 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by MrSteve View Post
I just ordered the Rancho 2" sport lift kit with the 5000 shocks. I passed on the 9000 shocks only because of these Michigan winters. It was a good price on 4wd site. Now all I need is time to get it installed.
Yesterday 07:19 PM
MrSteve I just ordered the Rancho 2" sport lift kit with the 5000 shocks. I passed on the 9000 shocks only because of these Michigan winters. It was a good price on 4wd site. Now all I need is time to get it installed.
Yesterday 06:43 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Bugarte View Post
Oh and the spacer

Here you go. http://www.quadratec.com/products/16190_2502_07.htm
Unless you want the shocks ?
Or take advantage of Rancho's rebate on the 9000's 29xl front and 30xl rear.
I lost count how many people are running this setup on here.
Yesterday 06:30 PM
Bugarte
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Then you may want to look into Rancho's front geometry control arm brackets. They sell for a little more than a $100. Well built, set caster to factory specs, improve handling, improve on the feel of the road. Best bang for buck mod you can do for handling at 2.5+ http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/ranc...FSZo7AodW34Asg
Oh and the spacer
Yesterday 06:28 PM
Bugarte
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Then you may want to look into Rancho's front geometry control arm brackets. They sell for a little more than a $100. Well built, set caster to factory specs, improve handling, improve on the feel of the road. Best bang for buck mod you can do for handling at 2.5+ http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/ranc...FSZo7AodW34Asg
Ok I'll get it. So I'm going to try and cut the flares and I will purchase the Rancho's and a 2.5 lift is that all I will need to complete this mod ? And also what kind of lift brand or kit do you recommend I get? I know I'm being a pain but I really have no one else to ask and trust on this. Lol

thanks for all your help!
Yesterday 05:49 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Em52 View Post
I love the look of your setup! I got 315/70R17 Duratracs now but my wish list tire was the MTR 35", but I like the ratio of your 37" better! What gears do you run? Em...
Stock 4:10
Yesterday 05:40 PM
Em52
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Welcome to the forum and this thread

You mentioned new flares. Would you be willing to trim yours (free)
What it does, let's you run less lift and still fit the same tire.
What are you looking to spend for just the lift ?
Any brands you looked at/considered ?

Here's mine sliced and diced
I love the look of your setup! I got 315/70R17 Duratracs now but my wish list tire was the MTR 35", but I like the ratio of your 37" better!

What gears do you run?

Em...
Yesterday 05:23 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Bugarte View Post
Not at all and I'm probably not going to besides camping and maybe some light trail that's about it mostly DD that's it
Then you may want to look into Rancho's front geometry control arm brackets. They sell for a little more than a $100. Well built, set caster to factory specs, improve handling, improve on the feel of the road. Best bang for buck mod you can do for handling at 2.5+
http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/ranc...FSZo7AodW34Asg
Yesterday 04:38 PM
Bugarte
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Duh ... the price. That is the TF 2.5 coil lift. Honestly I don't care for the TF shocks. Overall the kit Is a decent one. Do you wheel ?
Not at all and I'm probably not going to besides camping and maybe some light trail that's about it mostly DD that's it
Yesterday 04:19 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Bugarte View Post
I'm not sure I want to say coil
Duh ... the price. That is the TF 2.5 coil lift.

Honestly I don't care for the TF shocks. Overall the kit Is a decent one. Do you wheel ?
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