|Today 08:05 PM|
|Ndig29||Okay my turn.. I have a '13 jku sport with 33s and its a weekend warrior, no rocks - all trails/pits.. Finally scraping some money together and want to do a lift to fit 35s.. I dont plan on adding bumpers anytime soon but I do prefer new coils over spacers. So if I went with the TF 2.5 coil lift and rancho 9000s, what would I net in lift with the stock bumpers? Also, please give your recommendation on what lift to go with otherwise|
|Today 04:17 AM|
Disconnects allow front axle travel off road. Also smoothen out the ride just hitting trails. Quick discos are just a convenience. Some will just unbolt the stock links and tie them up to the frame. That or for $10 in parts make your own.
The only issue you will have running the stock wheels is clearance at the rear swaybar. The extended links run the bolt up against the wheel lip. Synergy makes drop blocks. I've also heard of people running the links on the inside.
Quality hub centric wheel spacers are fine. The thing is, 15" alloy wheels are pretty cheap. For a few hundred more you have new wheels.
I'll get you over the synergy link if you plan on ruining the stock wheels.
|Yesterday 10:49 PM|
Based on your advice (Ryan as well), I decided on the following:
- 2.5" lift w 9550 shocks - price is about same as 2.5" lift w/o shocks, then adding Rancho's, so figured I'd make it easy and just get both in 1 package. However, if you know of a sale somewhere that could save $100 or so, I'm all ears...umm... eyes
- Exhaust spacer kit
- AEV Front drop brackets
- My jury is hung on the sway bar disconnects....any big advantages for the $80 ?
- Flat fender flares
After all that is done....I'll save as fast as possible and go with new tires/wheels. I considered your words about adding wheel spacers, I can see the big benefits in money costs by not buying wheels....but...I am not 100% sold that these are safe...your thoughts ?
lastly...other than looking stupid running stock wheels and tires after all the lift and add-ons...is it possible I might do damage by keeping stock tires/wheels for a few months ? I can only afford to 1 then save for a few months to do the other
|Yesterday 03:06 PM|
|Yesterday 02:01 PM|
Jeep coils are typically designed to carry weight.
You'll see some manufactures note that listed height is with a fully outfitted jeep. TF, AEV come in pretty close to what they list.
|Yesterday 11:48 AM|
Question though: How come some lifts, say a 3.5" Teraflex lift gives extra gain when all is installed? Is this due to a synergy of all the components=Greater sum of parts when put together? Just wondering?
|Yesterday 08:42 AM|
Good post...and you just answered a few questions I may have asked eventually.
And my gearing is 3.21 on my JK as well...I know after its all said and done I will be switching my 33s to 35s and I was curious about regearing.
|Yesterday 04:07 AM|
That kit will indeed work. I know a guy who runs 1.5 but with flat fenders and 35's.
You could even throw some longer shocks under the jeep to increase travel. Nice setup ... The jeep is going to look great
|Yesterday 02:48 AM|
|Yesterday 12:08 AM|
First off, thanks for helping us newbies...it's much appreciated. I've read quite a bit of this thread and think I have a very basic grasp on this, I'd just like someone to take a look at what I'm planning and make sure I'm not missing anything.
I currently own a 2011 Jeep Wrangler 70th Anniversary Edition that I'm looking to upgrade now that I'm back in the States. I'm currently running stock Bridgestone Dueler A/T P255/70R18 tires, though when it's time to replace them I plan on upgrading to 33x12.5R15 Goodyear Duratracs on MB72 15" wheels.
As far as expectations go this vehicle is my daily driver, though I do like to go off-road on trails and in the Arizona desert. Not too big on rock crawling, though I'm sure that may change after a few years.
I plan on this being a DIY job. While I'm still learning about Jeeps I'm a retired Air Force 2W1, or Aircraft Armament Troop. (As is my partner in crime.) So we're both used to getting dirty and greasy while working, cursing at equipment (otherwise it just doesn't know you're serious) and beating on things when necessary (if at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer).
I've ordered and will soon be installing a Barricade Trail Force HD Front Bumper; Engo E9000 Winch with synthetic rope;Red Rock 4x4 Snorkel; Body Armor JK-2394 Steel Rear Bumper; and Body Armor 4x4 5294 Black -Steel Swing Arm Tire Carrier. I'm figuring all this will cause the Jeep to sag quite a bit; in order to correct that I was planning on adding a Terraflex 1.5" Spring leveling kit. From what I gather this should be enough to compensate for what I'm adding since I really won't need much lift for the Duratec 33's. Is there anything else I need or should add?
Thanks again everyone.
|09-21-2014 11:54 PM|
After hitting the Dusy Ershim last weekend to Voyager Rock in my stock JKU, I'm contemplating adding a lift to it in some form. I don't really want to go above 2.5" at this time as I've heard that is a "safe" lift height to not get into any issues with front suspension/hitting transfer case/exhaust etc.
2012 Unlimited Sport
Stock rims/tires at around 32.5"
But first off, I am Frugal, OK, I'm Cheap, downright penny pincher.
So, I'm thinking a lift to go with would be:
-Attempt to get stiffer springs off a 4dr Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited and the stock red Rubicon shocks. My current springs are 17/59 on my Sport, so the 19/60 Rubicon Springs would lift Rmine about 1"
-Get a Rough Country Spacer Lift: 2.5in Suspension Lift Kit (Spacers) for 07-15 Jeep JK Wrangler | Rough Country Suspension Systems
Hopefully, the Rubi Spring/Shock combo will be free to minimal (Given I find a set for cheap) and the Rough Country Spacer set is @$140.
I'm thinking both together will equate to a 2.5" lift once the spring/spacer combo settles. Would this be a good combo? Any issues you see, or better options? hmm
|09-21-2014 10:19 PM|
|09-21-2014 12:47 PM|
|09-21-2014 12:23 PM|
|Mike-7||Thank you. I just became a supporting member of your site. I am supporting something I enjoy and, you probably saved me a few hundred dollars with your advice|
|09-21-2014 12:01 PM|
I actually left shocks out because of your budget.
Stock rubicon shocks are a great upgrade for about $100
Rancho right now is running a rebate on 4 shocks. The 9000 adjustable shocks can't be beat for the price. ($250-$275)
Now, if you plan on shocks (I looked quickly and did not see it on XT's site) you won't need the shock extensions running longer shocks. I believe TF offers a BB without shock extensions. Check with Ryan.
If you have the money. TF's basic 2.5" coil lift is around $500. Add the 9000 shocks and you have yourself a decent setup.
A lot of people here in this thread run this setup along with Rancho or AEV drop brackets for caster angle.
|09-21-2014 09:37 AM|
Not only did you help, you helped a lot. Thanks. 2 quick follow-up's
I noticed the BB didn't include shocks...what's your opinion on the stock shocks ?
Upgrading to coils later....which would you recommend ? Depending on the cost, I might just get them now, can probably find another $400 laying somewhere.... :-)
|09-21-2014 08:02 AM|
That's tough. Tires can cost as much as 2k.
** Lift kit **
Maybe start with a simple Budget boost like this
** A couple other recommendations **
** upgrade to coils later **
Later, and when you do add bumpers/winch .. The parts will already be there switching to coils.
(Bump stops/shocks, swaybar links, etc)
** Tires **
Like said, It's going to cost 1500-2000 on the tires when all said and done. You can run the stock wheels with a 35" tire. The 12.5 width requires spacers (or wheels with less back space)
The Goodyear Duratrac is a very popular tire. Lightweight which is good running 3.21's.
Best advice .. Go to Discount Tire's website or PM the forum rep. See what he can do for you.
I highly recommend the tire warranty, best $30 per tire you'll spend.
I hope this helped. I know everything adds up more then 2k. I tried
|09-21-2014 02:05 AM|
- 75% hwy driving - 40 miles round-trip / 25% off-road (but when off-road, I want deep mud and big rocks, not just avg trails)
-- I like the look of at least 315 for width and 35" for height on tires
--- $2,000 for lift, rims and tires to start, but willing to add more with each paycheck as possible
---- add-ons: Yes on tire carrier, No on winch, Yes on bumper
----- I am hoping for 5" of lift overall....35" will give 1.5", + 2.5" lift ??? + long springs and/or coils, etc.. = desired result ???
I will buy from XT all the parts/etc and I only have full use of 1 arm and 505 strength in other...which means I will also need to add installation charges, I have a separate budget just for install currently sitting at $300...will add to that as needed too.
|09-21-2014 12:27 AM|
Yes, these questions would be better answers in TJ tech.. Hell, I'm in a good mood.
I took a stab at it for you. "Guesses" in quotes (just kidding) lol i owned a Tj For over 10 years.
|09-20-2014 03:53 PM|
|Cfjeep||Thanks I'll post over in the TJ section.|
|09-20-2014 03:43 PM|
|09-20-2014 03:34 PM|
JK Wheel / Tire / Lift Help
I have a stock 2005 Jeep Wrangler SE 2.4L 4 cyl. 6spd. (TJ) Garage kept with 60K miles on it. I use it mostly for commuting, with some light offroading - beach and moderate trails.
I wanted to put Blackrock Viper black matte wheels Part Number: 900B581237 with 31" or 32" BFG all terrain's (32"s would be 32x11.5R15LT). The jeep is 10 years old and the shocks could stand to be replaced. I'm not a big car guy and want to be sure before I buy. I had a few questions:
1. Do the tires fit the wheels correctly?
2. Do I need to do a lift at all? Can I fit 32" tires on a stock TJ without the tires rubbing? Or do I need to step back to 31"?
3. If I need to do a lift, what height / brand would be recommended?
4. What shocks? I've heard thrown around Rancho 9000xl, skyjacker soft ride, Pro Comp? I'm looking for a bit better than stock ride on the road and off-road.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
|09-20-2014 02:21 PM|
Do you have your build sheet ?
You can also go to Jeeps website and enter the vin for your info.
Lastly ... You can physically check by jacking up your rear axle. Draw a chalk line on the tire and driveshaft. Turn a tire one complete revolution and count how many times the driveshaft turns.
Factory ratios are 3.21, 3.73 and 4.10
Installing a lift kit is not all that hard and allows you to learn a bit what goes on underneath the jeep.
|09-20-2014 02:05 PM|
Appreciate the feed back
|09-19-2014 11:15 AM|
I've never tried this. Type your vin here and see what it comes up with (gearing)
|09-19-2014 11:06 AM|
This is the kit I had in mind
TeraFlex 2.5" Suspension Lift Kit, with 9550 VSS Shocks - TF-1251000
|09-19-2014 10:41 AM|
Something like the TF coil lift with shock extensions ? What model do you own .. A sport ? The rubicon shocks are a great upgrade over the stock (black) sport shocks. You can usually find those in the classifieds/CL for $100 Obviously there's room to upgrade. But a good start and inexpensive.
What gears do you have. Gear choice depends mostly on tire diameter.
|09-19-2014 10:14 AM|
Pretty freakin dope rig...
Appreciate the feed back...I assumed I would be compromising something going that route...I'd prefer to get it right the first go around. And I've been hearing the same thing from other jeeps about initially thinking they don't want to do extreme off-roading but change their mind...that may be a possiblity, however I'm a lil cowardly when it comes to that. Furthermore I will be adding a stereo system there which I know will add some more weight to my vehicle maybe upwards of 150+ lbs.
Once again, thank you
I was looking somewhere along the lines of the teraflex kit which runs around 750.00
however like I said I want to try to get it right the first time...so I don't mind spending a 1000.00
will I eventually need to regear as well?
|09-19-2014 09:23 AM|
"adding weight to your rig (front and rear bumpers) makes me think a true good SL is the way to go"
This right here IF adding weight ^^
What is your budget.
No nonsense/decent and complete. How about something like AEV's 2.5 w/ control arm drop brackets?
|09-19-2014 09:15 AM|
This is personal opinion only as I have not modded the JK or JKU at all...the TJ eats all the MOD MONEY!!!
That being said I always cringe when I hear/ read the term " budget _______" To me that is a compromise...and that is not usually the best option for me, because I will upgrade it later, and regret the short term benefits by the "budget" option.
The part about "off roading but no real flexing"...be advised that is what 90% start with in our minds....here is a Pic of my '04 TJ...when I purchased it I said I MIGHT add larger tires when the stockers wore out but that was the only mod it would receive.
Now Different tires, wheels, SL, BL, MML, SYE, new fenders in Front and new flares in the rear, high flow exhaust and intake, stereo, speakers, winch, Bumpers etc.
adding weight to your rig (front and rear bumpers) makes me think a true good SL is the way to go. GOOD LUCK!!
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