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09-11-2014 01:05 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by mradel90 View Post
I was thinking about a winch, racks, hard top, tow package etc. in the future and going 35's, so the jeep itself will be a lot heavier than sitting stock, would the 2.5" still work to get that nice lifted look?
Yep, I like a nice multi rate coil to help with weight and ride well.
09-11-2014 01:03 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post
Kjeeper10- you have me scared. I have a 3" mopar stage 3 kit and am now worried about problems!
Budget has a lot to do with my comment. When somebody only has $500-&1000 to work with, 3.5-.5 of lift requires a pretty complete kit.

Iirc, You have fixed CA's which help with pinion angles. Just keep a eyeball on the shafts for grease splatter. Shafts will tend to make noises too.
09-10-2014 11:57 PM
mradel90
lift

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
It's really not needed unless running a huge tire.
33-35" tire 2.5 is more than enough lift. Over 2.5" requires more parts/driveline concerns/etc
I was thinking about a winch, racks, hard top, tow package etc. in the future and going 35's, so the jeep itself will be a lot heavier than sitting stock, would the 2.5" still work to get that nice lifted look?
09-10-2014 09:40 PM
Dragmod
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I would not go more then 2.5" on a 2 door. RK 1.5 coils will net 2.5 on a 2 door http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...8Front%29.html http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...ear_coils.html http://www.quadratec.com/products/16191_9011_07.htm Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks (w rebate = $250-$275) Drevil on here runs this setup plus a few other parts ie swaybar links, bump stops, etc Let me know what you think and I can help you with the rest of what you need. Ken
Kjeeper10- you have me scared. I have a 3" mopar stage 3 kit and am now worried about problems!
09-10-2014 09:34 PM
Dr. Evil
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I would not go more then 2.5" on a 2 door.
RK 1.5 coils will net 2.5 on a 2 door

Rock Krawler 1.5" JK coils (Front) - RockRaider Off-road
Rock Krawler 1.5" JK rear coils - RockRaider Off-road
Teraflex 1954776 - TeraFlex Rear Trackbar Bracket for 07-15 Jeep Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 2.5" Lift - Quadratec
Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks (w rebate = $250-$275)

Drevil on here runs this setup plus a few other parts ie swaybar links, bump stops, etc

Let me know what you think and I can help you with the rest of what you need.

Ken
It took me a few seconds to realize "Drevil" was me lol. I was thinking, "Never heard of this dude Drevil." No bumpstops here for my DD by the way.
09-10-2014 09:15 PM
ResQJK Ken,
I have an '08 JKU with a TF leveling kit, 18/59 factory springs and Rubi takeoff shocks. The rear seems to be just the right height, but the front still has more rake than I like. Can I add add'l spacers or should I look at changing front springs? Looks like another inch or so would do it. Ideas?
09-10-2014 12:00 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by mradel90 View Post
Why wouldn't you go more than 2.5" on a two door?
It's really not needed unless running a huge tire.
33-35" tire 2.5 is more than enough lift. Over 2.5" requires more parts/driveline concerns/etc
09-10-2014 11:23 AM
mradel90 Why wouldn't you go more than 2.5" on a two door?
09-10-2014 09:47 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Kristy82 View Post
ask away. I need help. Not looked at any specific manufacturers. Right now I do like trails but I would like to eventually get into rock climbing. Right now I have a trail jacking custom bumpers and the normal set up for the spare tire. But I am looking into replacing my bumpers with metal bumpers like the nerf bars style.
I would not go more then 2.5" on a 2 door.
RK 1.5 coils will net 2.5 on a 2 door

http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...8Front%29.html
http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...ear_coils.html
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16191_9011_07.htm
Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks (w rebate = $250-$275)

Drevil on here runs this setup plus a few other parts ie swaybar links, bump stops, etc

Let me know what you think and I can help you with the rest of what you need.

Ken
09-09-2014 08:16 PM
Kristy82
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Couple more questions :P Any plans on Bumpers/winch/tire carrier (weight) ? What kind of off roading you do ie rock crawling, light trail, mix, none ? Ok three Have you had a chance to look at any of the lift manufactures... Any particular company's you have in mind if so ?
ask away. I need help. Not looked at any specific manufacturers. Right now I do like trails but I would like to eventually get into rock climbing. Right now I have a trail jacking custom bumpers and the normal set up for the spare tire. But I am looking into replacing my bumpers with metal bumpers like the nerf bars style.
09-09-2014 09:00 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post
What about a manual transmissionon a 2 door? I have the mopar stage three 3" lift! Thanks,
Fronts going to depend on use. The angle is already borderline running stock caster and position of the tranny in the 2012 jeeps.
Time will tell on the front. If playing a lot off road al lot of stress is put on the TC joint.

The rear DS of a 2 door (all years) is short. At about 3" of lift is about the cut off. If you have adjustable control arms .. They help.
09-09-2014 08:54 AM
Dragmod
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
2012-2015 automatic front on both 07-2015 rear on a 2 door over 3" of lift.
What about a manual transmission on a 2 door? I have the mopar stage three 3" lift! And why will you have to replace the driveshafts?
Thanks,
09-09-2014 08:49 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post
Why on a 2 door will you eventually need driveshafts?
2012-2015 automatic front on both
07-2015 rear on a 2 door over 3" of lift.
09-09-2014 08:42 AM
Dragmod Why on a 2 door will you eventually need driveshafts?
09-09-2014 04:20 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by mradel90 View Post
hey guys, I'm new to the jeep world and just bought a 2014 2 door rubicon. i am thinking of putting a TF 3" LCG lift and 35's. is there anything else you guys would recommend? i have been hearing about getting an aftermarket drive shaft, is this necessary? any info will be helpful!! Thanks!
Congrats.. Nice setup.
On a 2 door you'll prob eventually need driveshafts. Install the lift and go from there. Time will tell.
Another thing you can do is pick up spares.
09-09-2014 12:51 AM
mradel90
2014 2 door rubicon

hey guys, I'm new to the jeep world and just bought a 2014 2 door rubicon. i am thinking of putting a TF 3" LCG lift and 35's. is there anything else you guys would recommend? i have been hearing about getting an aftermarket drive shaft, is this necessary? any info will be helpful!! Thanks!
09-08-2014 07:42 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Kristy82 View Post
yes including new tires. I don't want to jack it up to where is need mods on the steering/ axle angles.
Couple more questions :P

Any plans on Bumpers/winch/tire carrier (weight) ?

What kind of off roading you do ie rock crawling, light trail, mix, none ?

Ok three

Have you had a chance to look at any of the lift manufactures... Any particular company's you have in mind if so ?
09-08-2014 07:33 PM
Kristy82
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
With tires I hope ? A 35 will get you 1.5" 3.5" suspension lift will net 5" total. I wouldn't go much higher than that. Front steering/axle angles are about maxed out and impossible to correct over 4" of suspension lift 3000-3500 for the lift or including tires/wheels ?
yes including new tires. I don't want to jack it up to where is need mods on the steering/ axle angles.
09-08-2014 06:46 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Kristy82 View Post
I just want to have an overall lift of around 5-6 niches. I'd like to stay around 3,000-3,500. I've been looking at Suspension lifts, wheels, and new tires.
With tires I hope ?
A 35 will get you 1.5"
3.5" suspension lift will net 5" total. I wouldn't go much higher than that. Front steering/axle angles are about maxed out and impossible to correct over 4" of suspension lift

3000-3500 for the lift or including tires/wheels ?
09-08-2014 06:13 PM
Kristy82
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
This is the newby's thread 3-4" is pretty tall on JK especially with only a 33" 2.5" is common running 35's. Anything more in height requires more parts (a more compete lift kit) Let's start with a lift budget. (Just the lift kit, not tires/wheels) ?
I just want to have an overall lift of around 5-6 niches. I'd like to stay around 3,000-3,500. I've been looking at Suspension lifts, wheels, and new tires.
09-07-2014 07:23 PM
monkeeboy73
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
Can someone tell me what was done here
That is epic. Well not be doing that top my JK.
09-07-2014 07:19 PM
monkeeboy73
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Originally Posted by AGS View Post

Good coincidence that I just posted my update (See above). I just did the spring swap and went from 13 to 17 on my fronts. I have the stock bumper and only got just over an inch of lift. If you've got an aftermarket bumper and winch you should probably go high on the front springs - 18 or 19 - or you may end up with some/more rake.
Yeah, I just read your other post. Good info, and nice looking Willys. I've had the 17/60 springs for a couple months now, and just got the Daystar spacers about a week ago anticipating the extra weight and to offset it. I wanted to make sure I wasn't going to long for my Rubi shocks. Almost thought about just adding the front spacers. A little bit of rake doesn't bug me.
09-07-2014 06:33 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Kristy82 View Post
Have a stock 2011 JK. I really want to lift it and extend my wheelbase or lift it and rock some 33s or 35s on it. I couldn't find the newbies thread. :/ I'm not sure how tall to go. I was thinking a 3-4 inch lift. Any suggestions on products/site to purchase, and what sizes I should be looking into? I want to be able to go on Jeepin trips with my buddies but it is my daily driving vehicle too.
This is the newby's thread

3-4" is pretty tall on JK especially with only a 33"
2.5" is common running 35's. Anything more in height requires more parts (a more compete lift kit)

Let's start with a lift budget. (Just the lift kit, not tires/wheels) ?
09-07-2014 06:28 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by AGS View Post
I took kjeeper10's idea and ran with it. I decided to piece together a solution for what I'm looking for - a moderate OEM spring swap and then coil spacers for more lift if needed. I picked up a set of 17/59 springs off eBay for $100 shipped to my door and did the swap today. Start to finish took about 3 hours and I'm pleased with the results. I got a nice improvement in ride quality (less body roll in turns and handles rough pavement much better) without being harsh at all. I gained 1 1/8 inches up front and 3/4 of an inch in the rear. This is at the low end of the range of lift I was looking for. I'll drive it for a few months and if I lose a little height due to settling then I can always take step 2 and add 1/2 or 3/4 inch spacers. Big shout out to kjeeper10 for his advice and feedback and fellow Club WILLYS member WhiteWillysJK for his step-by-step how-to post on spring swaps: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/di...to-848754.html The first two pictures show before and after. The first picture is a little dark - I got up early before the family woke up for the project. The last two show the improved stance with most of the factory rake corrected.
The simple approach is sometimes the best approach
09-07-2014 06:28 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post
Looks like inbreeding. Definitely inbreeding!
Rofl
09-07-2014 05:59 PM
AGS
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Originally Posted by monkeeboy73 View Post
Kjeeper10, have a question for you if you don't mind. I'll be doing a spring swap on my 2 door sometime in the near future, going from 13/55 to 17/60, recently added a new front bumper and Superwinch Tigershark 9500 RS, and experiencing some sag in the front of course. I also have the Daystar 3/4" spacer lift bi was thinking off putting in at the same time. Do you think that's an ok combo? Would you think there might be any issues adding the spacers? Here's a pic for reference.
Good coincidence that I just posted my update (See above). I just did the spring swap and went from 13 to 17 on my fronts. I have the stock bumper and only got just over an inch of lift. If you've got an aftermarket bumper and winch you should probably go high on the front springs - 18 or 19 - or you may end up with some/more rake.
09-07-2014 05:58 PM
Kristy82 Have a stock 2011 JK. I really want to lift it and extend my wheelbase or lift it and rock some 33s or 35s on it. I couldn't find the newbies thread. :/ I'm not sure how tall to go. I was thinking a 3-4 inch lift. Any suggestions on products/site to purchase, and what sizes I should be looking into? I want to be able to go on Jeepin trips with my buddies but it is my daily driving vehicle too.
09-07-2014 05:56 PM
Dragmod
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
Can someone tell me what was done here
Looks like inbreeding. Definitely inbreeding!
09-07-2014 05:55 PM
Ndig29 Can someone tell me what was done here
09-07-2014 05:53 PM
AGS
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Originally Posted by AGS View Post
Here are the potential solutions Ive come up with:

Coil Spacers Probably the simplest way to go because it they deliver precise results. In a perfect world Id add 1.25 in the rear and 1.5 up front, but nobody offers spacers in those sizes - the only choices are 1 or 1.75 (I know, Im being really anal over fractions of an inch!). Also, I lose about 0.5 to 0.75 of height when naked vs. fully loaded with hard top and doors, and the spacer solution does not remedy this at all.

OEM spring swap Swapping to slightly stiffer springs will help reduce the height loss when fully loaded and give me a little lift. The issue is the results are unpredictable. Ive seen a few posts from members who went to 19/60 and picked up 2 or more of lift, which is more than Im looking for. However, in post 2,045 WhiteWillysJK (same Jeep as me) went from 14/56 to 19/60 and got 1.75 front and 1.25 rear. This gives me hope that going from my 13/56 to either 18/60 or 17/59 will get me very close to my target.

For either of these first two solutions Ill also need to upgrade the shocks to address the squat and dive. I know kjeeper10 loves the Rancho 9000s I assume Ill see a noticeable improvement in ride with this upgrade from the Rubicon shocks that come on the WW?

The Last option is the Rancho 2 Sport lift kit. The benefit of this solution is that it delivers the lift and shock upgrade in one complete package. The potential issue is that with no added weight, I could end up with a lot more than 2 of lift, which was already a little more than I wanted to go.

Thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for your thoughts and guidance!
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Maybe instead of buying a leveling kit ... Piece together something, 1" all around if you want to keep the rake but stay Low.
I took kjeeper10's idea and ran with it. I decided to piece together a solution for what I'm looking for - a moderate OEM spring swap and then coil spacers for more lift if needed. I picked up a set of 17/59 springs off eBay for $100 shipped to my door and did the swap today. Start to finish took about 3 hours and I'm pleased with the results. I got a nice improvement in ride quality (less body roll in turns and handles rough pavement much better) without being harsh at all. I gained 1 1/8 inches up front and 3/4 of an inch in the rear. This is at the low end of the range of lift I was looking for. I'll drive it for a few months and if I lose a little height due to settling then I can always take step 2 and add 1/2 or 3/4 inch spacers.

Big shout out to kjeeper10 for his advice and feedback and fellow Club WILLYS member WhiteWillysJK for his step-by-step how-to post on spring swaps:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/di...to-848754.html

The first two pictures show before and after. The first picture is a little dark - I got up early before the family woke up for the project. The last two show the improved stance with most of the factory rake corrected.
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