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Today 03:53 PM
Cfjeep Thanks I'll post over in the TJ section.
Today 03:43 PM
jp2611
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cfjeep View Post
I have a stock 2005 Jeep Wrangler SE 2.4L 4 cyl. 6spd. (TJ) Garage kept with 60K miles on it. I use it mostly for commuting, with some light offroading - beach and moderate trails.

I wanted to put Blackrock Viper black matte wheels Part Number: 900B581237 with 31" or 32" BFG all terrain's (32"s would be 32x11.5R15LT). The jeep is 10 years old and the shocks could stand to be replaced. I'm not a big car guy and want to be sure before I buy. I had a few questions:

1. Do the tires fit the wheels correctly?

2. Do I need to do a lift at all? Can I fit 32" tires on a stock TJ without the tires rubbing? Or do I need to step back to 31"?

3. If I need to do a lift, what height / brand would be recommended?

4. What shocks? I've heard thrown around Rancho 9000xl, skyjacker soft ride, Pro Comp? I'm looking for a bit better than stock ride on the road and off-road.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Chuck
Most of this is in the TJ section....bottom line it depends on your expectations......example..someone said recently they were running 33"s on stock wheels...and had no issues wheeling....later they mentioned they had wheel spacers....bottom line....IMO go to the TJ section and start looking asking what tires wheels lift etc in the "search Forum"....when you get closer to what you are thinking we could help ya out better.......GOOD LUCK!!
Today 03:34 PM
Cfjeep
JK Wheel / Tire / Lift Help

I have a stock 2005 Jeep Wrangler SE 2.4L 4 cyl. 6spd. (TJ) Garage kept with 60K miles on it. I use it mostly for commuting, with some light offroading - beach and moderate trails.

I wanted to put Blackrock Viper black matte wheels Part Number: 900B581237 with 31" or 32" BFG all terrain's (32"s would be 32x11.5R15LT). The jeep is 10 years old and the shocks could stand to be replaced. I'm not a big car guy and want to be sure before I buy. I had a few questions:

1. Do the tires fit the wheels correctly?

2. Do I need to do a lift at all? Can I fit 32" tires on a stock TJ without the tires rubbing? Or do I need to step back to 31"?

3. If I need to do a lift, what height / brand would be recommended?

4. What shocks? I've heard thrown around Rancho 9000xl, skyjacker soft ride, Pro Comp? I'm looking for a bit better than stock ride on the road and off-road.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Chuck
Today 02:21 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by NJeep609 View Post
No luck with finding gear/ration info...however I think I may just hold out a few weeks and go with the AEV and some drop brackets...to be as safe as possible...possibly do the install myself... Appreciate the feed back
Hmm ... Sorry.
Do you have your build sheet ?
You can also go to Jeeps website and enter the vin for your info.
Lastly ... You can physically check by jacking up your rear axle. Draw a chalk line on the tire and driveshaft. Turn a tire one complete revolution and count how many times the driveshaft turns.
Factory ratios are 3.21, 3.73 and 4.10

Installing a lift kit is not all that hard and allows you to learn a bit what goes on underneath the jeep.
Today 02:05 PM
NJeep609
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
That works ... Nice kit.

I've never tried this. Type your vin here and see what it comes up with (gearing)
Jeep VIN Decoder - Jeepz.com
No luck with finding gear/ration info...however I think I may just hold out a few weeks and go with the AEV and some drop brackets...to be as safe as possible...possibly do the install myself...
Appreciate the feed back
Yesterday 11:15 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJeep609 View Post
I'm sorry but no have no idea about gearing...but the JKU is a Sport This is the kit I had in mind TeraFlex 2.5" Suspension Lift Kit, with 9550 VSS Shocks - TF-1251000
That works ... Nice kit.

I've never tried this. Type your vin here and see what it comes up with (gearing)
http://www.jeepz.com/forum/vin.php
Yesterday 11:06 AM
NJeep609
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Something like the TF coil lift with shock extensions ? What model do you own .. A sport ? The rubicon shocks are a great upgrade over the stock (black) sport shocks. You can usually find those in the classifieds/CL for $100 Obviously there's room to upgrade. But a good start and inexpensive.

What gears do you have. Gear choice depends mostly on tire diameter.
I'm sorry but no have no idea about gearing...but the JKU is a Sport
This is the kit I had in mind

TeraFlex 2.5" Suspension Lift Kit, with 9550 VSS Shocks - TF-1251000
Yesterday 10:41 AM
kjeeper10 Something like the TF coil lift with shock extensions ? What model do you own .. A sport ? The rubicon shocks are a great upgrade over the stock (black) sport shocks. You can usually find those in the classifieds/CL for $100 Obviously there's room to upgrade. But a good start and inexpensive.

What gears do you have. Gear choice depends mostly on tire diameter.
Yesterday 10:14 AM
NJeep609 @jp2611
Pretty freakin dope rig...
Appreciate the feed back...I assumed I would be compromising something going that route...I'd prefer to get it right the first go around. And I've been hearing the same thing from other jeeps about initially thinking they don't want to do extreme off-roading but change their mind...that may be a possiblity, however I'm a lil cowardly when it comes to that. Furthermore I will be adding a stereo system there which I know will add some more weight to my vehicle maybe upwards of 150+ lbs.
Once again, thank you

@kjeeper10
I was looking somewhere along the lines of the teraflex kit which runs around 750.00
however like I said I want to try to get it right the first time...so I don't mind spending a 1000.00
will I eventually need to regear as well?
Yesterday 09:23 AM
kjeeper10 "adding weight to your rig (front and rear bumpers) makes me think a true good SL is the way to go"

This right here IF adding weight ^^


NJ,
What is your budget.
No nonsense/decent and complete. How about something like AEV's 2.5 w/ control arm drop brackets?

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16502_4424_07.htm
Yesterday 09:15 AM
jp2611 This is personal opinion only as I have not modded the JK or JKU at all...the TJ eats all the MOD MONEY!!!

That being said I always cringe when I hear/ read the term " budget _______" To me that is a compromise...and that is not usually the best option for me, because I will upgrade it later, and regret the short term benefits by the "budget" option.

The part about "off roading but no real flexing"...be advised that is what 90% start with in our minds....here is a Pic of my '04 TJ...when I purchased it I said I MIGHT add larger tires when the stockers wore out but that was the only mod it would receive.

Now Different tires, wheels, SL, BL, MML, SYE, new fenders in Front and new flares in the rear, high flow exhaust and intake, stereo, speakers, winch, Bumpers etc.

adding weight to your rig (front and rear bumpers) makes me think a true good SL is the way to go. GOOD LUCK!!
Yesterday 08:52 AM
NJeep609 WF,

Slightly embarrassed to be asking some of my questions after I've read about 30 pages on this thread. There is so much information, honestly its hard to digest and it's giving me a headache. However, it definitely has helped me have some some better insight rather than just running off to some shop installing a simple lift and having to worry about problems in the future.

I recently purchased an '14 JKU
now running 33'' duratracs on stocks rims...
however I'm dying to get a kit thrown on...
the jeep is sorta a daily driver, I only get to use it after work hours and on the weekends...I do intend to use it for moderate offroading...notrock krawling and no real flexing...
I'm looking for a 2-2.5'' lift however I want to do it the right way ...I want it to drive as close as possible to stock and not have to worry about future problems (caster, death wobble, etc.)
So far I was looking at
-TeraFlex's Suspension Lift Kit w/ Shocks & Coils
or
-TeraFlex's Budget Boost w/ Shocks

Also, I plan on adding Rock Crawler Rear and Front Bumpers no winch
Please let me know if I am doing too much or too little (I rather pay now then later)

Thanks in advance
09-17-2014 08:12 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepChad View Post
But I'm trying to figure out how to measure for the 3.5" lift.
Jacking up the body would work fine.
Your average 3.5 will yield 4" front and 3" rear.
09-17-2014 08:05 PM
JeepChad But I'm trying to figure out how to measure for the 3.5" lift.
09-17-2014 05:38 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepChad View Post
I'm replacing my front DS and need measurements for Tom Woods to make one. problem is, currently, i'm at 2.5" lift with no control arms, but this winter I plan on adding 1"spacers (3.5" total lift) and at that time adding front lower control arms to fix my caster. Is it possible to measure the required DS length before I make these modifications? I'm thinking I could jack it up front and back 1" but that wont simulate having front lower CAs. Any thoughts? How precise should my DS length measurement be?
You should be fine running a 3.5 length shaft at 2.5.
The driveshaft compresses as the suspension droops and it has like 6-7" of slip or extension/compression. That 1" won't change much IMO.
09-17-2014 03:48 PM
JeepChad I'm replacing my front DS and need measurements for Tom Woods to make one. problem is, currently, i'm at 2.5" lift with no control arms, but this winter I plan on adding 1"spacers (3.5" total lift) and at that time adding front lower control arms to fix my caster. Is it possible to measure the required DS length before I make these modifications? I'm thinking I could jack it up front and back 1" but that wont simulate having front lower CAs. Any thoughts? How precise should my DS length measurement be?
09-11-2014 01:05 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by mradel90 View Post
I was thinking about a winch, racks, hard top, tow package etc. in the future and going 35's, so the jeep itself will be a lot heavier than sitting stock, would the 2.5" still work to get that nice lifted look?
Yep, I like a nice multi rate coil to help with weight and ride well.
09-11-2014 01:03 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post
Kjeeper10- you have me scared. I have a 3" mopar stage 3 kit and am now worried about problems!
Budget has a lot to do with my comment. When somebody only has $500-&1000 to work with, 3.5-.5 of lift requires a pretty complete kit.

Iirc, You have fixed CA's which help with pinion angles. Just keep a eyeball on the shafts for grease splatter. Shafts will tend to make noises too.
09-10-2014 11:57 PM
mradel90
lift

Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
It's really not needed unless running a huge tire.
33-35" tire 2.5 is more than enough lift. Over 2.5" requires more parts/driveline concerns/etc
I was thinking about a winch, racks, hard top, tow package etc. in the future and going 35's, so the jeep itself will be a lot heavier than sitting stock, would the 2.5" still work to get that nice lifted look?
09-10-2014 09:40 PM
Dragmod
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I would not go more then 2.5" on a 2 door. RK 1.5 coils will net 2.5 on a 2 door http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...8Front%29.html http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...ear_coils.html http://www.quadratec.com/products/16191_9011_07.htm Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks (w rebate = $250-$275) Drevil on here runs this setup plus a few other parts ie swaybar links, bump stops, etc Let me know what you think and I can help you with the rest of what you need. Ken
Kjeeper10- you have me scared. I have a 3" mopar stage 3 kit and am now worried about problems!
09-10-2014 09:34 PM
Dr. Evil
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I would not go more then 2.5" on a 2 door.
RK 1.5 coils will net 2.5 on a 2 door

Rock Krawler 1.5" JK coils (Front) - RockRaider Off-road
Rock Krawler 1.5" JK rear coils - RockRaider Off-road
Teraflex 1954776 - TeraFlex Rear Trackbar Bracket for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 2.5" Lift - Quadratec
Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks (w rebate = $250-$275)

Drevil on here runs this setup plus a few other parts ie swaybar links, bump stops, etc

Let me know what you think and I can help you with the rest of what you need.

Ken
It took me a few seconds to realize "Drevil" was me lol. I was thinking, "Never heard of this dude Drevil." No bumpstops here for my DD by the way.
09-10-2014 09:15 PM
ResQJK Ken,
I have an '08 JKU with a TF leveling kit, 18/59 factory springs and Rubi takeoff shocks. The rear seems to be just the right height, but the front still has more rake than I like. Can I add add'l spacers or should I look at changing front springs? Looks like another inch or so would do it. Ideas?
09-10-2014 12:00 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by mradel90 View Post
Why wouldn't you go more than 2.5" on a two door?
It's really not needed unless running a huge tire.
33-35" tire 2.5 is more than enough lift. Over 2.5" requires more parts/driveline concerns/etc
09-10-2014 11:23 AM
mradel90 Why wouldn't you go more than 2.5" on a two door?
09-10-2014 09:47 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristy82 View Post
ask away. I need help. Not looked at any specific manufacturers. Right now I do like trails but I would like to eventually get into rock climbing. Right now I have a trail jacking custom bumpers and the normal set up for the spare tire. But I am looking into replacing my bumpers with metal bumpers like the nerf bars style.
I would not go more then 2.5" on a 2 door.
RK 1.5 coils will net 2.5 on a 2 door

http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...8Front%29.html
http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p...ear_coils.html
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16191_9011_07.htm
Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks (w rebate = $250-$275)

Drevil on here runs this setup plus a few other parts ie swaybar links, bump stops, etc

Let me know what you think and I can help you with the rest of what you need.

Ken
09-09-2014 08:16 PM
Kristy82
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Couple more questions :P Any plans on Bumpers/winch/tire carrier (weight) ? What kind of off roading you do ie rock crawling, light trail, mix, none ? Ok three Have you had a chance to look at any of the lift manufactures... Any particular company's you have in mind if so ?
ask away. I need help. Not looked at any specific manufacturers. Right now I do like trails but I would like to eventually get into rock climbing. Right now I have a trail jacking custom bumpers and the normal set up for the spare tire. But I am looking into replacing my bumpers with metal bumpers like the nerf bars style.
09-09-2014 09:00 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post
What about a manual transmissionon a 2 door? I have the mopar stage three 3" lift! Thanks,
Fronts going to depend on use. The angle is already borderline running stock caster and position of the tranny in the 2012 jeeps.
Time will tell on the front. If playing a lot off road al lot of stress is put on the TC joint.

The rear DS of a 2 door (all years) is short. At about 3" of lift is about the cut off. If you have adjustable control arms .. They help.
09-09-2014 08:54 AM
Dragmod
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
2012-2015 automatic front on both 07-2015 rear on a 2 door over 3" of lift.
What about a manual transmission on a 2 door? I have the mopar stage three 3" lift! And why will you have to replace the driveshafts?
Thanks,
09-09-2014 08:49 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post
Why on a 2 door will you eventually need driveshafts?
2012-2015 automatic front on both
07-2015 rear on a 2 door over 3" of lift.
09-09-2014 08:42 AM
Dragmod Why on a 2 door will you eventually need driveshafts?
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