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08-19-2014 07:50 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Jetjocchris View Post
Just back from a 3 day wheeling trip up near Tahoe. Took the JK on a few difficult trails and it performed great. The Metalcloak lift is awesome. I only have the front upper control arms and front and rear trac bars and coils with OME shocks but it did great. Flex was good even with the stock arms.. (New arms to come shortly) I dropped by the Metalcloak shop and had the guys look over my install. Good thing because I had the rear trac bar backwards, it was not hitting anything but was just not right. They were good enough to swap it around in the spot. Customer service is outstanding. Thanks Eric.!! Oh and FYI, if anyone has a knocking sound coming from the B pillar area it may be your door latch. I thought it was something with the lift hence the real reason I stopped by the Metalcloak shop but come to find out it was only the door latch... There are several threads about this but the best fix seems to be electrical tape.
Thanks for the post
Def get those arms. You won't see anymore flex per se. But less bind in the suspension. You'll be able to center the axles in the wells. The jeep should handle better too.
08-19-2014 05:30 PM
Jetjocchris Just back from a 3 day wheeling trip up near Tahoe. Took the JK on a few difficult trails and it performed great. The Metalcloak lift is awesome. I only have the front upper control arms and front and rear trac bars and coils with OME shocks but it did great. Flex was good even with the stock arms.. (New arms to come shortly) I dropped by the Metalcloak shop and had the guys look over my install. Good thing because I had the rear trac bar backwards, it was not hitting anything but was just not right. They were good enough to swap it around in the spot. Customer service is outstanding. Thanks Eric.!!
Oh and FYI, if anyone has a knocking sound coming from the B pillar area it may be your door latch. I thought it was something with the lift hence the real reason I stopped by the Metalcloak shop but come to find out it was only the door latch... There are several threads about this but the best fix seems to be electrical tape.
08-18-2014 06:50 PM
TopDwnWhlsUp
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post

Ewwww Procomp
Yep lol, the springs are the only thing left from the previous lift.
08-18-2014 06:49 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by TopDwnWhlsUp View Post
Cool, thanks kind of what I was leaning towards, just wanted to make sure I didn't skyrocket it in heighth just got the steering dialed in on 2.5 inches of lift haha, but these pro comp springs are sagging like crazy.
Ewwww Procomp
08-18-2014 06:48 PM
TopDwnWhlsUp
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post

The 3,5" might be a better option for you for sure.
Cool, thanks kind of what I was leaning towards, just wanted to make sure I didn't skyrocket it in heighth just got the steering dialed in on 2.5 inches of lift haha, but these pro comp springs are sagging like crazy.
08-18-2014 06:44 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by TopDwnWhlsUp View Post
Yeah it's a pig. Xrc bumpers, tire carrier, winch, rubi rail ace rocker combo. Like 90 pounds of synergy steering components lol
The 3,5" might be a better option for you for sure.
08-18-2014 06:42 PM
TopDwnWhlsUp
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post

Are you heavy (bumpers/winch/etc) ?
Yeah it's a pig. Xrc bumpers, tire carrier, winch, rubi rail ace rocker combo. Like 90 pounds of synergy steering components lol
08-18-2014 06:39 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by TopDwnWhlsUp View Post
Thanks Ken. Still undecided about going higher but getting tired of dragging the undercarriage of the heep over everything. Could just learn to drive better I suppose :P
Are you heavy (bumpers/winch/etc) ?
08-18-2014 06:39 PM
Jeep757
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post

That's how I understood it. The TERAFLEX track bar did firm up my steering too. Very solid part.
Thanks Ken
08-18-2014 06:38 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Fr8dawg View Post
Im running a rock krawler trackbar with jam nuts to secure the joints. Royal pain in the ass, got em as tight as i physically could, they still came loose. I used a huge crescent wrench cause thats all i had that would fit the jam nut... Going to locktite the s$&t out of it asap... To anyone looking at trackbars, AVOID one with jam nuts! Its not worth it. The teraflex monster trackbar is a brilliant design and ill be buying one shortly!
I agree, I hate jam nuts.

My Ruff stuff uppers were a pain. Such a small joint and trying to keep it square with the front was impossible.
A 24" Crescent wench rounded the nut, so
I measured and ordered a open end wrench that fit the jam but perfectly. Along with the crescent to hold the joint and open end wrench .. I was able to tighten it real tight.

Spray all your joints with Fluid film. Great stuff ... 0 rust and lubes the Heim joints well.
08-18-2014 06:36 PM
TopDwnWhlsUp
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post

Your looking at 1"or a little more on a 2 door.
I want to say I'm just shy of 4" front and 3.75 rear with RK 2.5" coils
Thanks Ken. Still undecided about going higher but getting tired of dragging the undercarriage of the heep over everything.
Could just learn to drive better I suppose :P
08-18-2014 06:33 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by TopDwnWhlsUp View Post
Ken, how much extra lift did you get out of your 2.5 springs? I know you posted up before but can't find it. Looking at the 3.5 rk or 3.5 metal cloaks trying to get some kind of idea where I'll be sitting.
Your looking at 1"or a little more on a 2 door.
I want to say I'm just shy of 4" front and 3.75 rear with RK 2.5" coils
08-18-2014 06:27 PM
Fr8dawg Im running a rock krawler trackbar with jam nuts to secure the joints. Royal pain in the ass, got em as tight as i physically could, they still came loose.

I used a huge crescent wrench cause thats all i had that would fit the jam nut... Going to locktite the s$&t out of it asap...

To anyone looking at trackbars, AVOID one with jam nuts! Its not worth it. The teraflex monster trackbar is a brilliant design and ill be buying one shortly!
08-18-2014 06:25 PM
TopDwnWhlsUp Ken, how much extra lift did you get out of your 2.5 springs? I know you posted up before but can't find it. Looking at the 3.5 rk or 3.5 metal cloaks trying to get some kind of idea where I'll be sitting.
08-18-2014 06:16 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Jeep757 View Post
Is that the Teraflex Trackbar?
That's how I understood it. The TERAFLEX track bar did firm up my steering too. Very solid part.
08-18-2014 01:16 PM
Jeep757
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Originally Posted by Dragmod View Post

I just installed the Teraflex bar and didn't think I would see much of a difference. Boy was I wrong. My steering response is a million times better!
Is that the Teraflex Trackbar?
08-18-2014 09:40 AM
Dragmod
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Originally Posted by Fr8dawg View Post
Well, im embarassed to say, but the @&$$&@ jam nut came loose on the track bar LOL!! I fought these bastard jam nuts for an hour during the initial install... After getting the axle centered. And here I am 3 weeks later and its loose again. Fml Any advice on getting those things tight? Im about ready to scrap this track bar and buy the teraflex bar with the adjustment sleeve!
I just installed the Teraflex bar and didn't think I would see much of a difference. Boy was I wrong. My steering response is a million times better!
08-18-2014 07:47 AM
kjeeper10 [QUOTE="Fr8dawg;12739682"] Well, im embarassed to say, but the @&$$&@ jam nut came loose on the track bar LOL!! I fought these bastard jam nuts for an hour during the initial install... After getting the axle centered. And here I am 3 weeks later and its loose again. Fml Any advice on getting those things tight? Im about ready to scrap this track bar and buy the teraflex bar with the adjustment sleeve![/QUOTE

Loc-tite and mucho torque, What are you using for a wrench ?
08-18-2014 07:10 AM
Fr8dawg
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
FR8,

Do you have a follow up on your clunk?
Well, im embarassed to say, but the @&$$&@ jam nut came loose on the track bar LOL!!

I fought these bastard jam nuts for an hour during the initial install... After getting the axle centered. And here I am 3 weeks later and its loose again. Fml

Any advice on getting those things tight? Im about ready to scrap this track bar and buy the teraflex bar with the adjustment sleeve!
08-18-2014 05:00 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Dude ... Look at your lower ball joint on the passenger side. I think I sAw movement. Very last shot before the end of the vid. Looks shot
FR8,

Do you have a follow up on your clunk?
08-17-2014 09:14 PM
kjeeper10 You're ok as long as the tire can slip .. Even a little. The driveline is pretty stout.
You might want to look into tacking the u-joint caps. Simple mod anybody can do.
08-17-2014 07:17 PM
MnJK
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Totally normal .. That is why people go with RCV shafts. (CV joints instead of u-joints)

Never ever .. Engage 4w on dry pavement. The tires have to be able to slip or that binding can cause some major damage.
I was on a trail coming down some rocks and needed to make a tight turn (thinking back, I could have safely shifted out of 4wd for that section). Same happened going up a steep trail that had a tight turn. Trail was a mix of loose, small rocks and dirt and then sections with larger flat solid rock surfaces. Probably was on the larger solid rock surface and combined with a tight turn didn't allow for wheel slippage. Given the variable terrain every few feet, not sure I could have shifted out of 4wd and still get up that hill. Wheel & learn!
08-17-2014 05:35 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by MnJK View Post
Still learning (as you can tell!) so read through info on that. Seems to be exactly what is happening.
Totally normal .. That is why people go with RCV shafts. (CV joints instead of u-joints)

Never ever .. Engage 4w on dry pavement. The tires have to be able to slip or that binding can cause some major damage.
08-17-2014 05:27 PM
MnJK
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Are you experiencing normal u-joint bind in 4 wheel drive ?
That's what it sounds like.
Still learning (as you can tell!) so read through info on that. Seems to be exactly what is happening.
08-17-2014 04:47 PM
kjeeper10 Dude ... Look at your lower ball joint on the passenger side. I think I sAw movement.
Very last shot before the end of the vid. Looks shot
08-17-2014 04:44 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Fr8dawg View Post
Definitely on the pass side! Could it really be a ball joint?? The jeep has 4500 miles with basically no offroading! I noticed the tie rod is rotating when the wheel is turned (normal) but it seems that it rotates hard and the clunking is at the tie rod end?? Anyway, going to jack her up and check the ball joints
A good pothole is all it takes.
Use a large pair of channel locks and squeeze the tie rod end. Look for up and down movement. The rotation is normal.
What I've done. Position a jack stand under the tie rod end. Pry up on it looking for play.

Did you inspect the shock bolts, swaybar bolts ?
08-17-2014 04:40 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by courtneybiggans View Post
Looks, probably won't really take it off roading. I'd like to put 33s on
Keep it low and simple. A 33" tire will fit stock with the right backspace wheel (assuming you're running a 12.5" wide tire"

How about any of the 2.5" budget boost lifts ?
http://www.rockraider4x4.com/store/p..._Adaptors.html

This is just a example. There's kits with new shocks, without shocks (choose your own)

At most, maybe a set of front lower Control arms or drop brackets to correct caster angle and improve handling.
08-17-2014 04:38 PM
Fr8dawg Definitely on the pass side!

Could it really be a ball joint?? The jeep has 4500 miles with basically no offroading!

I noticed the tie rod is rotating when the wheel is turned (normal) but it seems that it rotates hard and the clunking is at the tie rod end??

Anyway, going to jack her up and check the ball joints
08-17-2014 04:34 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Fr8dawg View Post
Slight clunking in my front end.. Heard at low speed turns over bumps. I cant seem to narrow down whats causing it as everything has been torqued to spec. Here is a video, you can kind of hear the clunking sound. Any ideas??? Tierod clunk - YouTube
That's loud damn !!

Most sounds are heard driving over bumps not turning the wheel. I've never seen a tie rod or drag link joint make a loud clank like that turning the wheel back and forth.

Something is really worn/broke. Can you go out and check the ball joints/hub bearings ?
Lift the tire 2-3" of the ground and pry up on it. See if there's a ball joint blown out. Hard to tell but it sounds like it's coming from the passenger side.
08-17-2014 04:20 PM
Fr8dawg Slight clunking in my front end.. Heard at low speed turns over bumps. You can also hear it when turning the wheel while parked (as in the video)

I cant seem to narrow down whats causing it as everything has been torqued to spec.

Here is a video, you can kind of hear the clunking sound. Any ideas???

Tierod clunk - YouTube
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