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Today 01:50 PM
ruskiroman
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Originally Posted by Em52 View Post
I went with AEV 2.5 XT Dual Terrain w/GEO correction kit and NR4x4 grade 8 bolt upgrade, couldn't be more pleased! Had the same criteria as you mentioned.

I also got the AEV rear tire carrier at the same time, all installed over a 3 day week end.

Don't have any experience with other brands, had a rough country 4" on an old bronco back 10 years ago... Not the same category. I will say as what I've read on this kit, does ride and handle better than stock by my comparison!

Em...
Thanks, I'll check that one out too.
Today 01:10 PM
Em52
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Originally Posted by ruskiroman View Post

I'm looking to spend no more than $3000 for everything (shocks, springs, control arms, track bars, etc. NOT including wheels and tires) This is just for the parts as I'll most likely be doing the work myself.

I'm looking for 100% bolt on as I have no welding skills and would like to do the lift myself.

Not sure about the arm length. Just looking for whatever will work best with a 2.5" lift on a 2-door JK. Ride quality is just as important to me as off-road ability, so I'm guessing I'll have to balance those two things.
I went with AEV 2.5 XT Dual Terrain w/GEO correction kit and NR4x4 grade 8 bolt upgrade, couldn't be more pleased! Had the same criteria as you mentioned.

I also got the AEV rear tire carrier at the same time, all installed over a 3 day week end.

Don't have any experience with other brands, had a rough country 4" on an old bronco back 10 years ago... Not the same category. I will say as what I've read on this kit, does ride and handle better than stock by my comparison!

Em...
Today 11:40 AM
ruskiroman
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Forgot to ask about tire size ?

JK 2.5 X Factor System
What's nice about this kit is the rear axle is moved back a good inch.

Prob the most complete kit available
POLY PERFORMANCE OFF-ROAD Jeep JK Stage 3 Suspension System, 3" Lift

Or MC obviously
I'll be running 35" tires once I do the lift.

Thanks a lot for the suggesstions! I'll look into them as well before I make a final decision.
Today 11:17 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by scj64 View Post
I wanted the same for my JK so I went with the Metalcloak ARB. At first I went with a 3 1/2" kit but decided that was too much for a 2 door with 35's. I called Matson at Metalcloak and as long as they were not installed (still waiting on the Jeep) he exchanged them for free. Great guy to talk to btw! I should have my JK in about a week and I'll do a build thread as I'll be doing all the work myself.
What did you get about 4.5 with 3.5 coils ?
Today 11:15 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by ruskiroman View Post
I'm looking to spend no more than $3000 for everything (shocks, springs, control arms, track bars, etc. NOT including wheels and tires) This is just for the parts as I'll most likely be doing the work myself. I'm looking for 100% bolt on as I have no welding skills and would like to do the lift myself. Not sure about the arm length. Just looking for whatever will work best with a 2.5" lift on a 2-door JK. Ride quality is just as important to me as off-road ability, so I'm guessing I'll have to balance those two things.
Forgot to ask about tire size ?

http://www.rockkrawler.com/ProductDe...tCode=RKJK25XF
What's nice about this kit is the rear axle is moved back a good inch.

Prob the most complete kit available
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...t-p-16428.html

Or MC obviously
Today 10:50 AM
scj64
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Originally Posted by ruskiroman View Post
Can you PM me a link to your build thread once you get it started? I'd be interested in following it.
Will do
Today 10:43 AM
ruskiroman Can you PM me a link to your build thread once you get it started? I'd be interested in following it.
Today 10:36 AM
scj64 I wanted the same for my JK so I went with the Metalcloak ARB. At first I went with a 3 1/2" kit but decided that was too much for a 2 door with 35's. I called Matson at Metalcloak and as long as they were not installed (still waiting on the Jeep) he exchanged them for free. Great guy to talk to btw!

I should have my JK in about a week and I'll do a build thread as I'll be doing all the work myself.
Today 10:17 AM
ruskiroman
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
$3000k on the suspension system alone ?
100% bolt on or no ?
Prefer long or short arm (mid arm) ?
2 door or 4 door ?
I'm looking to spend no more than $3000 for everything (shocks, springs, control arms, track bars, etc. NOT including wheels and tires) This is just for the parts as I'll most likely be doing the work myself.

I'm looking for 100% bolt on as I have no welding skills and would like to do the lift myself.

Not sure about the arm length. Just looking for whatever will work best with a 2.5" lift on a 2-door JK. Ride quality is just as important to me as off-road ability, so I'm guessing I'll have to balance those two things.
Today 08:45 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by ruskiroman View Post
If you were doing a 2.5" lift and looking to spend up to $3000 what kit/kits would you go with? I'll be doing my lift in a year or so (haven't even gotten my jeep yet, should be here before January). I've done quite a bit of research and decided on the game changer kit because it's got all the control arms, track bars, etc, and they're all adjustable. But I'm open to ideas if there is a better kit out there. Also, at what point is it a good idea to replace the drive shaft with a beefier one? 3.5"?
$3000k on the suspension system alone ?
100% bolt on or no ?
Prefer long or short arm (mid arm) ?
2 door or 4 door ?
Today 07:03 AM
ruskiroman
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I like metalcloak as a company. No personal experience with any of their parts though. Either my own jeep or others I've helped on.
If you were doing a 2.5" lift and looking to spend up to $3000 what kit/kits would you go with?

I'll be doing my lift in a year or so (haven't even gotten my jeep yet, should be here before January). I've done quite a bit of research and decided on the game changer kit because it's got all the control arms, track bars, etc, and they're all adjustable. But I'm open to ideas if there is a better kit out there.

Also, at what point is it a good idea to replace the drive shaft with a beefier one? 3.5"?
Yesterday 02:11 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by ruskiroman View Post
I'm a fan of the Metalcloak Game Changer ARB Edition kit too. That's what I'll be putting on my jeep when I'm finally ready to lift.
I like metalcloak as a company. No personal experience with any of their parts though. Either my own jeep or others I've helped on.
Yesterday 07:56 AM
ruskiroman I'm a fan of the Metalcloak Game Changer ARB Edition kit too. That's what I'll be putting on my jeep when I'm finally ready to lift.
Yesterday 07:55 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by ibmiked View Post
Great advice, and that's the route I will go. Other than the TB bracket, sounds like the rest of the RK kit is solid, right? I've read your previous comments about the shorter lower rear CA that comes with the Max Travel kit. Maybe I'll just stick with the flex kit for now, and build on top of that? Then again, that Metalcloak set up looks good too. Damn this is tough!!! Thank you again for helping me spend lots of money...the right way!
Ha .. I was going to go there but didn't. With a 4 door pinion angle in the rear is not as important. IMO The flex kit is a better option for you. later-if you want to move the axle back. buy the longer lowers and uppers together.

Fwiw .. Rock Krawler will customize arm lengths for you to (no charge)
Yesterday 07:21 AM
ibmiked
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Yep .. I would have the same concern. TF makes a bracket. Completely bolt on for around $100
You're given either 2-3 settings depending on the bracket. I personally prefer a higher roll center in the rear. My TB (TF bracket) is currently set In the upper 4" holes. Handling will be slightly better this way. Scrap the RK bracket and favor of a TF Or Even synergy rear bracket.
Great advice, and that's the route I will go. Other than the TB bracket, sounds like the rest of the RK kit is solid, right? I've read your previous comments about the shorter lower rear CA that comes with the Max Travel kit. Maybe I'll just stick with the flex kit for now, and build on top of that? Then again, that Metalcloak set up looks good too. Damn this is tough!!! Thank you again for helping me spend lots of money...the right way!
Yesterday 06:42 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by ibmiked View Post
Thanks for the quick response! Good to know I can drive to get the weld done. I'm just concerned about welding it (the permanent nature of that) if I ever decide to change things up. I've heard lots of good things about the RK coils and their systems, so I likely won't change it...just want to keep options open though. That's why I was looking at the MC ARB; doesn't look like it has any welding, just drilling in the perch for bumpstops. I just want to make sure it's done right the first time! Thanks in advance, and of course, for the TONS of information you've provided to this thread.
Yep .. I would have the same concern. TF makes a bracket. Completely bolt on for around $100
You're given either 2-3 settings depending on the bracket. I personally prefer a higher roll center in the rear. My TB (TF bracket) is currently set In the upper 4" holes. Handling will be slightly better this way. Scrap the RK bracket and favor of a TF Or Even synergy rear bracket.
Yesterday 06:33 AM
ibmiked
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
All it is a simple bead. You don't have to weld it right away. Bolt up and drives the jeep to a shop. I can't see them charging more than $50 to lay a bead for you.
Thanks for the quick response! Good to know I can drive to get the weld done. I'm just concerned about welding it (the permanent nature of that) if I ever decide to change things up. I've heard lots of good things about the RK coils and their systems, so I likely won't change it...just want to keep options open though. That's why I was looking at the MC ARB; doesn't look like it has any welding, just drilling in the perch for bumpstops. I just want to make sure it's done right the first time!
Thanks in advance, and of course, for the TONS of information you've provided to this thread.
Yesterday 06:05 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by ibmiked View Post
To the suspension gurus... I've pretty much settled on two kits for my '15 JKRU, both 2.5", either the Metalcloak ARB, or the Rock Krawler Max Travel (with Rancho 9Ks or Fox 2.0). Both packages seem fairly complete; however, my question is about the RK kit. I'm leery about having to weld the rear TB bracket to the axle, particularly if I decide to go another route down the road. Is there a way around that? Thanks in advance.
All it is a simple bead. You don't have to weld it right away. Bolt up and drives the jeep to a shop. I can't see them charging more than $50 to lay a bead for you.
Yesterday 05:35 AM
ibmiked To the suspension gurus... I've pretty much settled on two kits for my '15 JKRU, both 2.5", either the Metalcloak ARB, or the Rock Krawler Max Travel (with Rancho 9Ks or Fox 2.0). Both packages seem fairly complete; however, my question is about the RK kit. I'm leery about having to weld the rear TB bracket to the axle, particularly if I decide to go another route down the road. Is there a way around that?

Thanks in advance.
Yesterday 05:09 AM
Fr8dawg Love my duratracs! Sure, they are known to have "weak" sidewalls, but damn it they perform great in everything I use them for! Daily drivers, mud, sand, snow, wet roads, dry roads, icy roads... Might not be the best rock crawler tire, but for 95% of the jeeps out there, you cant go wrong with GY Duratracs. (I swear Goodyear doesnt pay me! Just sharing my stoke with these tires! Lol)
Yesterday 05:04 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by uvegeshm View Post
If i want to do a 2.5" lift, and I currently have 17" wheels, what kind of tires could I do? I definitely want bigger than stock, but not obnoxious.
"
Did you see the Goodyear Duratrac?
11-24-2014 11:32 PM
uvegeshm If i want to do a 2.5" lift, and I currently have 17" wheels, what kind of tires could I do? I definitely want bigger than stock, but not obnoxious.
11-24-2014 08:43 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Newjeepkid View Post
I really enjoyed your write up. I have a 2008 jku and was looking at adding the rancho 2" sport lift with rs9000xls. Would i have to upgrade anything else for this or would it not interfere too much with getting control arms or driveshaft? I know 2.5" is pretty safe but wanted to see if anyone did add or change anything.
Thanks man..
A set of quick disco's up front is nice to have. Other than that, The Rancho 2" kit is complete for the height. Nothing else is needed.
11-24-2014 08:20 PM
Newjeepkid I really enjoyed your write up. I have a 2008 jku and was looking at adding the rancho 2" sport lift with rs9000xls. Would i have to upgrade anything else for this or would it not interfere too much with getting control arms or driveshaft? I know 2.5" is pretty safe but wanted to see if anyone did add or change anything.
11-24-2014 06:43 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
will be picking everything up tomorrow.. Amazing how much i thought i could trust shops
Ha!! No doubt.
11-24-2014 06:41 PM
Ndig29
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Were you able to see the printout ?
will be picking everything up tomorrow.. Amazing how much i thought i could trust shops
11-24-2014 05:46 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
after being updated.. Mr tire caused the entire front end to be completely out of wack and a disaster of problems waiting to happen. Dealer was able to replace most of the front end with brand new parts after hours of battling to get the old ones off. Told me also that the alignment is one of the worst he has ever seen and it is so far off. All in all, will be done tomorrow after a major 4 hour alignment is done. Cannot wait until I am able to bring the paperwork to Mr tire for a long rant and refund.
Were you able to see the printout ?
11-24-2014 05:16 PM
Ndig29
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
New center link and tie rod are being installed today with dealer.. Will know later today if the death wobble persists
after being updated.. Mr tire caused the entire front end to be completely out of wack and a disaster of problems waiting to happen. Dealer was able to replace most of the front end with brand new parts after hours of battling to get the old ones off. Told me also that the alignment is one of the worst he has ever seen and it is so far off. All in all, will be done tomorrow after a major 4 hour alignment is done. Cannot wait until I am able to bring the paperwork to Mr tire for a long rant and refund.
11-24-2014 12:24 PM
Ndig29 New center link and tie rod are being installed today with dealer.. Will know later today if the death wobble persists
11-24-2014 11:10 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by hyoung2048 View Post
Awesome, thanks... that saves me a few bucks and I'll add the rear axle TB to the list.
Good luck .. The jeep should handle well with that combo.
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