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11-21-2014 03:41 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
wasnt told specifically but they said it looked like i got in an accident and my front end was never repaired.. Also said he is waiting to get the approval of his engineering division to diagnose the repairs needed
Good news man
11-21-2014 03:23 PM
Ndig29
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Toe angle out of spec ?
wasnt told specifically but they said it looked like i got in an accident and my front end was never repaired.. Also said he is waiting to get the approval of his engineering division to diagnose the repairs needed
11-21-2014 02:42 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
Spoke to dealer.. The alignment incident with mr tire caused my entire steering linkage and geometry to be out of spec
Toe angle out of spec ?
11-21-2014 02:38 PM
Ndig29 Spoke to dealer.. The alignment incident with mr tire caused my entire steering linkage and geometry to be out of spec
11-20-2014 09:36 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Magblue10 View Post
I'm pretty new here as well and I have a question why are 2.5 inch lift kit varying in size of tire you can put TeraFlex says a 35 inch tire and rough country says a 33 inch tire what is the difference? Also TeraFlex says 4.5 on backspacing with your wheels and RC says you need no backspace can someone explain this to me
Good question. I can't answer the tire size question. Looks like RC is playing it safe.
2.5" is enough to run a 35" tire on a JK .

TF runs longer swaybar links in the rear. The swaybar will rub the wheel with not enough backspace. There's ways around that though like running the links inboard or dropping the sway bar.
11-20-2014 09:12 PM
Magblue10 I'm pretty new here as well and I have a question why are 2.5 inch lift kit varying in size of tire you can put TeraFlex says a 35 inch tire and rough country says a 33 inch tire what is the difference? Also TeraFlex says 4.5 on backspacing with your wheels and RC says you need no backspace can someone explain this to me
11-20-2014 06:59 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
Spoke with the dealer today, although he did mention getting an aftermarket dual steering stabilizer, he said they are going through the procedure to diagnose the problem. Told me the first thing being done tomorrow, after a thorough visual inspection and test today, is the factory wheels being swapped on (didnt say anything about tires) and road testing and diagnosing once more from there.
If this doesn't work .. Take it to another shop. Even if you have to pay to diagnose the problem.
Then take it back to the dealership with ammo in hand.
Replacing the SS is one thing .. Recommending a dual SS is a shame and tells me they don't know what they're doing.
11-20-2014 06:50 PM
Ndig29 Spoke with the dealer today, although he did mention getting an aftermarket dual steering stabilizer, he said they are going through the procedure to diagnose the problem. Told me the first thing being done tomorrow, after a thorough visual inspection and test today, is the factory wheels being swapped on (didnt say anything about tires) and road testing and diagnosing once more from there.
11-19-2014 04:34 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by acpkwest View Post
Hi KJ Looking to put an ARB EMU 2.5 lift kit on my 2015 Rubicon. Not an extreme off-roader, but do take it off-road on the trails in Vermont and New Hampshire. Looking to put on some bigger tires, possibly 285 75r17 or 305 70r17. Any issues i need to be aware of with the kit?
Can you link it ?
11-19-2014 04:17 PM
acpkwest Hi KJ

Looking to put an ARB EMU 2.5 lift kit on my 2015 Rubicon. Not an extreme off-roader, but do take it off-road on the trails in Vermont and New Hampshire. Looking to put on some bigger tires, possibly 285 75r17 or 305 70r17. Any issues i need to be aware of with the kit?
11-19-2014 04:02 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
took it to the dealer where i bought it from (family friend) who was able to schedule me in immediately and told him to take a good look at it. After the stabilizer was replaced yesterday, this morning i got DW every time i paced over 45mph and it got very bad if i tried to counter it.. Ended up crawling to the new dealer today and leaving it there for a while to be checked out
Best of luck !!!
11-19-2014 03:39 PM
Ndig29
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
That's what usually happens. I would do whatever it takes. Replace the bolts in the link above (northridge kit) Visually check the holes for wear. Then torque to 125 ft lbs. It's best to get it fixed, or risk other failures like ball joints, rod ends, or even the steering box.
took it to the dealer where i bought it from (family friend) who was able to schedule me in immediately and told him to take a good look at it. After the stabilizer was replaced yesterday, this morning i got DW every time i paced over 45mph and it got very bad if i tried to counter it.. Ended up crawling to the new dealer today and leaving it there for a while to be checked out
11-18-2014 08:33 PM
WranglerChik
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Originally Posted by MustangGrl View Post
I've already got 35s on it. I would post a pic but it won't let me So 4" would require changing drive shafts also? I read that that is needed for some heights but the first post didn't really say the height that I saw Edit

It's a 2010 islander edition not sure if that matters
MustangGrl - nothing about asking questions is stupid (take it from an ex school teacher). I'm knee deep in understanding Jeep mechanics, but there is always something new to learn.

And those 35s look bad a$$
11-18-2014 07:05 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Austin Meredith View Post
I'll just get both to insure that every is aligned properly. Like i mentioned, i'd rather not have to do more later. Just get it all done at once!
I like your attitude :beer:
11-18-2014 06:50 PM
Austin Meredith I'll just get both to insure that every is aligned properly. Like i mentioned, i'd rather not have to do more later. Just get it all done at once!
11-18-2014 04:50 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Austin Meredith View Post
So i'd want the adjustable lowers as well?
As mentioned above in Maxx's post. All it takes is .5 to .75 in length to center the axle with lowers. The fixed arms are .5 longer than stock. They will work fine for what you want to do. The uppers need adjustment for pinion angle.

Edit: actually, you can use the synergy uppers alone if you wanted to.
Fixed lowers to return wheelbase back to stock.
Either way will work out for you.
11-18-2014 04:44 PM
Austin Meredith So i'd want the adjustable lowers as well?
11-18-2014 04:44 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
i asked them if they checked the bolts upfront and the response I was given was "they went over the whole front end" .. How long do you think the new stabilizer will hold up if there is another component in the suspension causing DW, also would it be a good idea to remove the stabilizer and see how things go?
That's what usually happens. I would do whatever it takes. Replace the bolts in the link above (northridge kit) Visually check the holes for wear. Then torque to 125 ft lbs.

It's best to get it fixed, or risk other failures like ball joints, rod ends, or even the steering box.
11-18-2014 04:37 PM
kjeeper10 The lowers you linked are fixed FYI. Not a problem if that's what you want to do?

Work the prices too. I know the AEV stuff is fixed but everything else is workable.
11-18-2014 04:28 PM
Ndig29
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Originally Posted by Steve2012 View Post
What year and how many miles?
2013 and 20k
11-18-2014 04:25 PM
Steve2012
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Originally Posted by Ndig29 View Post
i asked them if they checked the bolts upfront and the response I was given was "they went over the whole front end" .. How long do you think the new stabilizer will hold up if there is another component in the suspension causing DW, also would it be a good idea to remove the stabilizer and see how things go?
What year and how many miles?
11-18-2014 04:21 PM
Maxx143
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
The RK rear arms together are designed to move the axle back a inch plus. I don't know if that's a good move. If you want the RK arms .. Look at the instructions/parts included in the X Factor kit. I know the swaybar is moved back.
If it helps, the sway bar got moved back 1" with my X-Factor kit. Regarding the CAs, with them pulled as short as they can be, I gained .75" back in the wheelbase which was all I needed to center my rear wheel in the well (2dr) and rear pinion is good.
11-18-2014 04:19 PM
Austin Meredith Thanks again!!

So would these be what you are talking about?

POLY PERFORMANCE OFF-ROAD PARTS┬*::┬*Suspension┬*::┬*Suspension & Lift Kits┬*::┬*Jeep Suspension Systems┬*::┬*2007-Current Jeep JK Wrangler Suspension Systems┬*::┬*Synergy Manufacturing┬*::┬*Synergy Jeep JK Rear Upper Control Arms (Pair)

POLY PERFORMANCE OFF-ROAD PARTS┬*::┬*Suspension┬*::┬*Suspension & Lift Kits┬*::┬*Jeep Suspension Systems┬*::┬*2007-Current Jeep JK Wrangler Suspension Systems┬*::┬*Synergy Manufacturing┬*::┬*Synergy Jeep JK Heavy Duty Fixed Rear Lower Control Arms (P
11-18-2014 03:36 PM
kjeeper10 The bolt kit there is right also
11-18-2014 03:29 PM
kjeeper10 Glad to help.

The RK rear arms together are designed to move the axle back a inch plus. I don't know if that's a good move. Take a look at Synergy's arms.
If you want the RK arms .. Look at the instructions/parts included in the X Factor kit.
I know the swaybar is moved back. Their bump stops are angled to clear the links. Plus their TB has a heim joint. I don't know how AEV's rear TB will sit back there.

Synergy's arms are stock in length with enough adjustment to return the axle back center in the wheel well and pinion angle. Plus they are adjustable on the jeep.

Those are the correction wedges you linked. JKS makes bolt on perches as another option.
11-18-2014 03:27 PM
Ndig29
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I see "dampener" is that all they replaced ? Did they pull the track bar bolts and check for wear and/or loose bolts ?
i asked them if they checked the bolts upfront and the response I was given was "they went over the whole front end"
.. How long do you think the new stabilizer will hold up if there is another component in the suspension causing DW, also would it be a good idea to remove the stabilizer and see how things go?
11-18-2014 03:00 PM
Austin Meredith Thanks for the quick response. So if money wasn't an issue (and it's not because i'd rather not have to come back and do more later!) you'd recommend the following components to create a "full lift"?

Rock Krawler Rear Upper Adjustable Control Arms
(Rock Krawler Suspension RK02028 - Rock Krawler Rear Upper Adjustable Control Arms for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec)

Rock Krawler High Clearance Adjustable Rear Lower Control Arms
(Rock Krawler Suspension RK02022 - Rock Krawler High Clearance Adjustable Rear Lower Control Arms for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec)

Rock Krawler Rear Coil Spring Correction Wedges
(Rock Krawler Suspension RK02659 - Rock Krawler Rear Coil Spring Correction Wedges for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec)

NORTHRIDGE 4X4 JEEP JK GRADE 8 HARDWARE KIT
(Northridge 4X4 Jeep JK Grade 8 Hardware kit)

Seriously, thanks for all your help. I'll enjoy the piece of mind knowing that i have everything i need when i go ahead and order. You rock!!
11-18-2014 02:21 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Austin Meredith View Post
Edit: this is for my 2013 Wrangler Sport Unlimited So i've read a lot of information and hopefully have got this figured out. I'm looking at purchasing a lift in the next week or two and want to insure that i order everything i need at once. Preface, this vehicle is a 90 percent DD and other 10 percent is light off road (getting to camping location, ect...). I'm currently planning on purchasing a AEV 3.5" DualSport RS Suspension System with Bilstein 5160 Shocks. This kit includes the following: Front and Rear Coil Springs Bilstein 5160 Shocks Heavy Duty Steering Stabilizer Front and Rear Bump Stops Front and Rear Brake Line Brackets Custom Rear Track Bar Rear Axle Side Track Bar Bracket Sway Bar Links Front Control Arm Geometry Drop Brackets** Front Axle Side Track Bar Bracket with Steering Stabilizer Mount High Steer Drag Link AEV Jack Base AEV ProCAL Module On top of this, to avoid any issues in the future i'm planning on upgrading both front and rear drive shafts to Adams JK 1310. Is there anything else that is needed? I'm looking for this vehicle to perform nicely on the road since i commute 60 miles a day (no death wobble!)
Nicely put together

(most likely) you will need rear upper control arms to adjust pinion angle - running the Adams shaft.
If you can afford it both uppers and lowers. This will allow the axle to be centered in the well and pinion angle.
Coil correction wedges are a good idea to use when pinion is corrected. ($30 or so)

The Northridge 9/16 bolt kit is a good idea. Too.
11-18-2014 01:56 PM
Austin Meredith Edit: this is for my 2013 Wrangler Sport Unlimited

So i've read a lot of information and hopefully have got this figured out. I'm looking at purchasing a lift in the next week or two and want to insure that i order everything i need at once. Preface, this vehicle is a 90 percent DD and other 10 percent is light off road (getting to camping location, ect...).

I'm currently planning on purchasing a AEV 3.5" DualSport RS Suspension System with Bilstein 5160 Shocks. This kit includes the following:
Front and Rear Coil Springs
Bilstein 5160 Shocks
Heavy Duty Steering Stabilizer
Front and Rear Bump Stops
Front and Rear Brake Line Brackets
Custom Rear Track Bar
Rear Axle Side Track Bar Bracket
Sway Bar Links
Front Control Arm Geometry Drop Brackets**
Front Axle Side Track Bar Bracket with Steering Stabilizer Mount
High Steer Drag Link
AEV Jack Base
AEV ProCAL Module

On top of this, to avoid any issues in the future i'm planning on upgrading both front and rear drive shafts to Adams JK 1310.

Is there anything else that is needed? I'm looking for this vehicle to perform nicely on the road since i commute 60 miles a day (no death wobble!)
11-18-2014 01:13 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Steve2012 View Post
Looks like the basic stabilizer waste of time fix.
Too bad. It's a shame really.
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