|10-03-2013 02:25 AM|
How about some simple no brainer stuff:
#1. When stuck, lower your air pressure and use anything in your surroundings for traction. i.e. Wood, Rocks.
#2. When you are out in an OHV park, always expect a squid on a Quad to be coming around the corner at hero speeds.
#3. You can never have enough windshield washer fluid.
#4. Dont be a jackass, thats how you kill yourself or others. Drive within your ability and you will be respected, rather than pulling a dumb shit move trying to show off and ruining your's and maybe others day.
#5. When in deep sand (river bottom) never make too tight of turns, always gradual. You hit the limits on your steering and you will be stuck in most any vehicle. My Jeeps seem to be pretty unstopable.
#6. There is only one way to learn, and thats doing it. Whether its the right way or the wrong way. Usually I learned my lessons when being unprepared or doing something totally wrong.
#7. When approaching a rock garden of any size, expect trouble and proceed with caution. Just because you saw a video or watched your buddy go up in front of you, does not mean things will go so smoothly for you. Rocks can be unpredictable and shift around before you know it. If you hit a bunch of smaller sized rocks at high speed you very well may end up with a hole in your oil pan.
#8. Check the weather report.
#9. Slow down and really be sure you are prepared for your trip whether its a day or a week. I have gone out to local trails (5 mins away) and have been stuck without my shovel, PSI gauge, Tool bag etc.
#10. Mudding was fun when I was 16, now its just a pain in the ass. If necessary sure ill go through. But I will avoid it if possible. Hell of a lot of fun. But its the beginning of a mechanical problem.
#11. When approaching anything off camber, look at the consequence before continuing. Know that if you begin to roll, turn into the roll and dont be afraid to hit the throttle.
I could go on for days but these are things you learn when the situation approaches you somewhere along the line. Everyone learns if they put themselves out there and challenge themselves.
|10-02-2013 07:32 PM|
Getting stuck isn't bad if you are wheeling with a friend. It's part of a learning curve on reading a trail and recovery.
I've been offroading since I bought my first jeep in '91. I've always had a front winch and sometimes a rear as well. If I'm with a group I don't mind going first as someone will have my back - however I try to avoid deep water and deep mud. Even if you don't get stuck you start a corrosive process by getting water in electrical connectors. I cross rocky streams slowly but avoid ponds. Mud clogs the radiator fins and gets in your eyes when you do maintenance at a later date. So I crawl over logs, climb steep rocky trails, and hit snow whenever I can. I often travel alone (carry tools and don't go fast enough to damage anything). Take a "go bag" with clothes, water and some food - you never know when you might get stuck.
PS: Always "expect" the water to be deeper or a cement block is buried in the mud, so if you cannot see the trail - go slow as not to avoid damage -
You can always get unstuck, but if on a remote trail you may not be able to get towed out.
|10-02-2013 05:13 PM|
|10-02-2013 05:09 PM|
Always have an experienced buddy as your copilot or tagging along in their jeep when you are a beginner.
Even though my first offroading was pretty simple stuff it helped a lot to have an experienced buddy as my copilot to help me with turning angles to prevent rolls and to help me get the feel of steep inclines and declines.
Also he could help gauge what my stock jeep could handle as opposed to his rubi
|10-01-2013 03:35 PM|
|Tweak||always check for obstacles in water crossings, there may be a Samurai down there!|
|10-01-2013 12:12 PM|
|10-01-2013 11:17 AM|
(that's always the answer for mud/snow if your worried...the rest, I could not tell you )
|10-01-2013 10:29 AM|
|JKjingle||The best advice has already been said don't go where you're unsure if you will make it especially if far from help. I usually don't wheel too far from cell service, buddies, or even a road so I'm usually good. Bring supplies if you're going farther into the bush some simple food and drinks can make waiting for a pull or getting back way easier on the body and mind. Nothing's worse than being starved and stressed about being stuck. Depending where you are bring a firearm I throw the 12g shotgun in the back lots you never know. I got a quad stuck when I was 17 and of course it was getting dark. Took me an hour to walk back to the road in the pitch black and right before the road I ran into a bear I was terrified all I had was a helmet. I just yelled at it until it walked away but it didn't seem very scared of me which made it worse. Also get a WINCH best thing I have ever bought hands down I've used it lots already and I havn't even had it a year. Sometimes things look fine and then your hung up, sunk in deep mud etc. Lastly get out there and wheel only way to get experience in terrain is to conquer it or have it conquer you haha|
|10-01-2013 10:03 AM|
|10-01-2013 02:55 AM|
Invest in a pair of these:
They're supposed to be good, and they are aussie made
|10-01-2013 02:13 AM|
There is an old dirt bike saying we have in Baja which works for any desert region:
"you never have enough water, unless you're drowning and you never have too much fuel, unless you're on fire".
|10-01-2013 01:36 AM|
I live in Mongolia and believe me, we are doing offroading all the time in every possible makes of cars & trucks.
we have this rules
1) always know where you are and where you are going (it's a must)
2) trip is only limited by the patrol stations in between, or reserve fuel you have
3) little prison mentality is required if or when you are in touble (say during blizzard you could loose bearing and vehicle could get stuck) so making fire in plains with no trees and keeping warm in -25c -30c.
4) never give up, no matter how hopeless the situaion, will to live should always outweight the current situation.
|10-01-2013 12:05 AM|
This just happened to me today! Tried to cross a muddy stream of water...should've gone a lot faster into it. Because I almost got stuck on the opposite bank of the stream, my tires clogged up and no recovery strap or buddy to help. Put it in 4Lo though and started turning my wheels back and forth. Barely pulled my way out and then made it back to the road.
Thank God for my new Duratracs and my 4x4!
|09-30-2013 02:15 PM|
|NFRs2000NYC||Another good tip, when it doubt, scout it out. If you come to an obstacle that looks dauting, don't be afraid to park, get out, and walk a little to scout. Sometimes the obstacle right in front of you isn't too bad, but the three obstacles 1/4 mile afterwards can be terrible. Learn to recognize terrain change. Learn the basics of soil layers. If you are driving on mostly dirt, and all the sudden rocks start to appear, chances are, bigger rocks will appear soon as well. It would be wise to scout ahead before attempting something you may regret and get "rim rocked." Rim rocked is a climbing term (mountain climbing) and it basically means you get to an area where you can no longer go up or down...and are trapped. You may wheel (accidentally) into a place where you can't turn back, and are either forced to keep going, or worse, you won't be able to continue forward, and can't make it back.|
|09-30-2013 02:12 PM|
|09-30-2013 02:11 PM|
|tab22092||When in doubt throttle out|
|09-30-2013 02:07 PM|
I don't do any serious wheeling in my Wrangler (I know that's blasphemy here) but I'm off pavement almost every day for work in ditches & fields and have gone real off-roading enough in the past to comment.
I'd apply the same logic for off-roading as when flying an airplane: If you THINK you can do it, don't do it; only do what you KNOW you can do. It's OK to forage into the gray area of THINK/KNOW when you're with others that can help if you get into trouble because that's how you add to what you know you can do. That logic has served me well and I've seen horrible results when people don't apply it. Reckless abandon is not for the faint of heart nor the shallow-pocketed.
|09-30-2013 02:04 PM|
|marslim||Any kind of deep water always drop it into 4 low, especially with a 6 speed... Almost impossible to stall and if the going gets rough you can slow right down and crawl without having to slip your clutch!!|
|09-30-2013 01:57 PM|
keep this going..
I ways check my suspension and wheels before any after any off roading, and don't drive fast
|09-30-2013 01:39 PM|
1) Never attempt to do something you are uncomfortable with, know your limits *
2) If you second guess yourself, don't do it.
Now, taking your post, you would be in "violation" or rule #1. The * above is an exception, when you are in a local area (easy to get help) or with someone else that can assist you. If you are in the bush, on a mountain, in the desert, etc, the above 2 rules should NEVER EVER be violated. You gotta check your ego at the gate. You need to have the balls to turn around. Sometimes being a hero is about knowing when to call it a day. I had 2 close calls in the last year that could have been pretty bad. Often times, it's not even about the Jeep itself. For instance, I ran into a couple in Moab that were thinking about running the White rim Trail. It is a 90 mile trail which CAN be done in 1 day, but usually takes 3. They didn't know that a 90 mile trail offroad isn't the same thing as a 90 mile road. They thought it would take them 4-5 hours. Luckily for them, I checked their supplies. Two 20oz bottles of water, a half a cup of coffee, a snickers and a nature valley granola bar. They would have been in a heap of trouble. The wife was telling the husband "maybe we shouldn't do it" and he kept banging on about how "everything would be fine." Ignorance and cockiness have no business on the trail.
|09-30-2013 01:36 PM|
|MudRunner||Use 4-Lo when offroad and travelling up a steep, long incline. Helps prevent overheating|
|09-30-2013 01:30 PM|
|rdg04578||When alone and not sure of the terrian go slow and in 2wd --this way if you get stuck you will be able to get out. you will be surprised how foar a jeep will take you in 2wd|
|09-30-2013 01:23 PM|
|09-30-2013 12:57 PM|
Everytime I second guessed my self, I ended up in trouble.
|09-30-2013 12:49 PM|
|James 98TJ||Floor mats make great traction devices when stuck in snow or sand. Dig a bit throw your mats down drive away get new mats lol|
|09-30-2013 12:41 PM|
|Lowerumble||Put it in 4wd.|
|09-30-2013 12:36 PM|
|NFRs2000NYC||Best tip ever...if you are second guessing something, don't do it. It only ends one way.|
|09-30-2013 11:49 AM|
Agreed. If in mud or some deep terrain don't stop, keep turning your wheels back in forth to keep traction and when in doubt "hit it with some speed!"
Or, "Keep calm and drop it in 4LO."
|09-26-2013 07:42 PM|
|09-26-2013 07:41 PM|
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