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07-26-2014 01:53 AM
snore Yes a big thanks! I now have 2014 tags yeah!
07-25-2014 11:13 PM
redneckbrat
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Originally Posted by 2xs View Post
Regardless, our 2 posters with emissions testing issues have passed!
Thanks for all your help.
07-25-2014 01:31 PM
2xs
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Originally Posted by ghzdhjian View Post
Wait for 2xs to see your post before you take any advice, in the mean time, post up a scan of your results
07-23-2014 12:04 PM
2xs
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Originally Posted by redneckbrat View Post
He did mention that one of the tests with the Jeep that it kicked him out. I didn't know what that meant, but really didn't care. His boss told him he could go to 3rd gear.
One problem, its not his bosses choice, its his licence, and he treats it as ony he deems necessary, looking at his record, hes good at what he does, and doesnt need to worry about a rare inconsistency.

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Originally Posted by Digger84 View Post
It would seem that if you want a specific rpm range at a specific speed and you know what rpm range you need you could choose a gear accordingly especially with a manual transmission

Assuming we are restricted to hi range on transfer case the required gear for a desired rpm at a given speed would depend on tire diameter and Diffy gear ratio as well as transmission gear ratio/ gear chosen

If you had an add on overdrive like I had on my old jeep with a spicer 18 transfer you could change desired gear with that also

It also depends how you measure the desired speed as of it is a true external speed or an speed based on vehicle speed sensor output which is easily manipulated by changing the speedo drive gear

I would guess on a yj it would require and external speed calculation unless you just believe the speedo
Rule of the legalese, Overdrive is not an option, Second gear unless its absolutely not possible.
Some cheat, some lie, there is always a way around this or that, it happens, but taking a chance o losing your STAR rating (and your job as a result) can be disastrous.

Regardless, our 2 posters with emissions testing issues have passed!

See you all next time!
07-23-2014 10:25 AM
Digger84 It would seem that if you want a specific rpm range at a specific speed and you know what rpm range you need you could choose a gear accordingly especially with a manual transmission

Assuming we are restricted to hi range on transfer case the required gear for a desired rpm at a given speed would depend on tire diameter and Diffy gear ratio as well as transmission gear ratio/ gear chosen

If you had an add on overdrive like I had on my old jeep with a spicer 18 transfer you could change desired gear with that also

It also depends how you measure the desired speed as of it is a true external speed or an speed based on vehicle speed sensor output which is easily manipulated by changing the speedo drive gear

I would guess on a yj it would require and external speed calculation unless you just believe the speedo
07-23-2014 07:58 AM
redneckbrat He did mention that one of the tests with the Jeep that it kicked him out. I didn't know what that meant, but really didn't care. His boss told him he could go to 3rd gear.
07-23-2014 02:02 AM
2xs LOL, that will bite them in the ass, if they are close....

Star Program

" This measure works by first finding the 90th percentile RPM reading for similar vehicles inspected statewide, and then adding 300 rpm to that reading in order to establish the maximum allowable RPM limit for a particular vehicle. “Similar vehicles” means vehicles of the same model year, make, model, engine displacement, transmission type, and body style. "

so, they look at all Jeep Wrangler manual 4.0L and dont take into account bigger tires. Look at your vehicles history test RPMs and come up with the face that secodn gear, on boat tires, puts it out.

Not a big deal, IF you have a history of shifting wrong....

Here is an example, My munbers:
http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebqu...px?tech=132430
10 cars in one month at 1.23%, I have no issues with it,

AND: your tech also has no issue:
http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebqu...tech_no=634236

however:

He DOES have an issue with Max readiness monitors, at 12.*% hes over, not bad, but over...

THIS GUY:
http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebqu...tech_no=149010
has issues, and we did not hire him because of it...
He Abort happy, too, but thats another issue altogether.


abd YES, I study this shit too, reading between the lines, I can determine who is good, and who NOT to hire....
07-23-2014 01:10 AM
redneckbrat
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Originally Posted by snore View Post
Yeah I agree there is something still wrong. I noticed it has a slight rough idle. Other than that it seems to runs good so far. I really want to take it out more, but the tags were from 2010 so that has really stopped me from testing it more. Here's the whole report, thats interesting he went to third, it was a different guy than last time.
We found that they are allowed to go to third if they can't keep it in the "zone". That's what they did for me too.
07-23-2014 01:09 AM
redneckbrat
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Originally Posted by bill8bud View Post
Redneckbrat how did the trip to the DMV go?
well, I got there and found that I forgot all my paperwork at home. Going again tomorrow with all my paperwork.
07-22-2014 11:24 PM
snore
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Originally Posted by 2xs View Post
Agreed, sorta of, the extra O2 from the leak will also cause the front half of the cat to not be able to reduce NOx....



Good thing you got it to pass, but remember, it did squeak by, there is still a problem.
I also noticed he shifted into third, thats a BIG no-no, and will affect his STAR score in the next month....

Please scan the WHOLE report, there is information there you wouldn't think is important, but is to another Cali smog tech.
Yeah I agree there is something still wrong. I noticed it has a slight rough idle. Other than that it seems to runs good so far. I really want to take it out more, but the tags were from 2010 so that has really stopped me from testing it more. Here's the whole report, thats interesting he went to third, it was a different guy than last time.
07-22-2014 10:00 PM
2xs
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Originally Posted by JMickey View Post
Am i reading this correct...you have an exhaust leak, you're not fixing that but you're throwing another o2 sensor at it? If that's what you're doing it'll never fix it. The exhaust leak is causing the o2 sensor to read incorrectly. Fix the exhaust leak first.
Agreed, sorta of, the extra O2 from the leak will also cause the front half of the cat to not be able to reduce NOx....

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Originally Posted by snore View Post
Yeah I replaced the exhaust manifold. I wasnt sure if it could be welded because the crack was all the way around in between the 2 pipes, so I put a new one on there. Thats what I was putting back together.
Good thing you got it to pass, but remember, it did squeak by, there is still a problem.
I also noticed he shifted into third, thats a BIG no-no, and will affect his STAR score in the next month....

Please scan the WHOLE report, there is information there you wouldn't think is important, but is to another Cali smog tech.
07-22-2014 07:38 PM
snore
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Originally Posted by JMickey View Post
Am i reading this correct...you have an exhaust leak, you're not fixing that but you're throwing another o2 sensor at it? If that's what you're doing it'll never fix it. The exhaust leak is causing the o2 sensor to read incorrectly. Fix the exhaust leak first.
Yeah I replaced the exhaust manifold. I wasnt sure if it could be welded because the crack was all the way around in between the 2 pipes, so I put a new one on there. Thats what I was putting back together.
07-22-2014 07:30 PM
snore I passed I think I just squeaked by on some numbers. Now to make an appointment at the DMV.
07-22-2014 07:09 PM
JMickey
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Originally Posted by snore View Post
I am in the process of getting the Jeep put back together. I am hopefully going back to have it retested beginning of next week. The hairline crack in my exhaust manifold turned out to go all the way around and looked pretty bad. So as of right now all I think I'm going to do is switch out the O2 sensor (just because I had already got one before you guys said not to lol) I will let you all know the results when I take it back in.
Am i reading this correct...you have an exhaust leak, you're not fixing that but you're throwing another o2 sensor at it? If that's what you're doing it'll never fix it. The exhaust leak is causing the o2 sensor to read incorrectly. Fix the exhaust leak first.
07-22-2014 06:58 PM
bill8bud Redneckbrat how did the trip to the DMV go?
07-20-2014 03:38 AM
bill8bud You only need two to smog it. The tires were 28s I

The smog guy was laughing at first
07-19-2014 11:03 PM
redneckbrat I'll be looking for a set of 4 stock tires for next time.
07-19-2014 10:39 PM
snore
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Originally Posted by redneckbrat View Post
when we put the t-stat back in, I was running just under 210.
ok cool then I'm just taking it in as is and see where I'm at.
07-19-2014 10:34 PM
redneckbrat when we put the t-stat back in, I was running just under 210.
07-19-2014 10:32 PM
snore Just got it all put back together and out for a test drive. It's running at about 200 degrees not sure if thats too hot but was thinking about putting a new tstat in. Hmm smaller tires huh thats awesome. Glad you passed redneck. I'm bringing mine back in on Monday, I'll post the results.
07-19-2014 08:23 PM
2xs Jeep Wrangler Forum - View Profile: snore

Dude, your turn...
07-19-2014 07:56 PM
2xs Awesome!

So, you gonna go buy some trailer tires in that size for next time?
07-19-2014 07:51 PM
redneckbrat check again, just edited and posted a pic
07-19-2014 07:49 PM
2xs
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Originally Posted by redneckbrat View Post
Well, we had it tested twice. the first time it failed. We had done an oil change and changed the fan clutch. The second time, we put a t-stat in and swapped the back tires with boat trailer tires. He had to put it in 3rd gear and then it passed.
Boat trailer tires, thats awesome!

I can see it now, redneckbrat on Mythbusters trying to bust the myth that smaller tires can help you pass smog, and end up proving thy myth s valid!

IT WORKS! Smaller tires on your cat or truck CAN help you pass smog!
This Myth holds water!
07-19-2014 07:38 PM
redneckbrat Well, we had it tested twice. the first time it failed. We had done an oil change and changed the fan clutch. The second time, we put a t-stat in and swapped the back tires with boat trailer tires. He had to put it in 3rd gear and then it passed.
07-18-2014 12:29 AM
redneckbrat
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Originally Posted by 2xs View Post
Oh, you are comign down? LOL.

I thought you were fixing that hairline crack that was bigger then you thought first.
Any crack/leak before the cat will cause NOx to increase.

Hell, i dont know who is who anymore...
I'll be there early. SNORE is the one with the hairline crack.
07-17-2014 11:49 PM
2xs Oh, you are comign down? LOL.

I thought you were fixing that hairline crack that was bigger then you thought first.
Any crack/leak before the cat will cause NOx to increase.

Hell, i dont know who is who anymore...
07-17-2014 11:11 PM
redneckbrat You will, first hand.
07-17-2014 10:04 PM
2xs
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Originally Posted by redneckbrat View Post
I'll make sure of that. I'm gonna start the tire change right after I get home tomorrow.
OMG, PLEASE take, and post, some pics of that, I would LOVE to see this....
07-17-2014 10:04 PM
2xs
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Originally Posted by Digger84 View Post
Sometime the center hole in the wheel is to small so keep an eye on that as well as spinning wheel while jacked and bolted on to make sure nothing rubs
Good point, I didnt think about that...
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