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03-09-2010 02:38 PM
dcmtex Rocky, if it works could we get some pics?
01-29-2010 06:36 PM
Rocky Bar
Water, Water, Water.

Thanks again everyone for the sugestions. Well I was at a wrecking yard today looking for TJ stuff, and right in front of me was a TJ in bad shape, motor gone, front-end almost stripped. Well the hood cowl was gone also, and could see right down air vent, and drain. Guess I was blind, for the drain goes down on fire-wall behind engine to a rubber flapper. Came home and took on the drain. It was packed full of twigs, leaves, mud, etc. Well wanted an easy fix, tried raming a stiff wire down drain, no go. Tried running a wire up drain flapper, small stuff fell out. Okay starting to get fustrated. Drilled a clean-out hole right above valve cover, ran stiff wire back and forth, couldn't believe the amount of stuff coming out. Well the drain is clear, and next rain will tell. Cheers.
01-29-2010 10:12 AM
Bobthegod The worlds easiest test for leaks is to drive it through a car wash. You get every possible angle of spray and can check for leaks everywhere. Did mine that way and glad to say I'm dry....woo hooo. Then you get the drying wind which will force air into any leak hole. Best test I've found. Give it a try.
01-29-2010 01:05 AM
Nicholson Oh and for the record, I was just kidding Bransford... I lived in Baja for a while and El Nino can cook up some killer storms. So if you have any ideas...
01-28-2010 11:37 PM
Nicholson Alright Rocky Bar, misery loves company... I still haven't had a chance to pull mine apart yet, but I finally yanked out my carpet just to keep it dry.

I also have one other leak but at the back of the passengers seat, where the roll cage connects to the floor. I'm not sure if the leak is occurring because of a bad weld or undercoating seal on the inside of the tub or the outside... Any ideas? There is a vertical seam in the very corner, right at the base of that I get a steady drip on a rainy day.
01-28-2010 08:40 PM
InfernoGirl Theres a black box thing under the cowl, I read about it somewhere. The gasket becomes ineffective. You might try looking at that. I forget now what it does, but you'll see it when you remove the cowl. Pry it up, and replace the gasket. It has caused leaks for several people. I'll see if I can find more info....
01-28-2010 07:04 PM
Rocky Bar
Water, Water, Water.

Been getting to know our 97 TJ more, and more. Thanks to all for the questions awnsered. Started going after the water issue on passenger side. Seems to be coming out of heater down vent when raining, right above passengers feet. Went looking for cowl drain to see if its pluged with leaves etc. Couldn't find one. A heads-up to where it exits underneath would be great, or what I need to be looking for. Seems to be a drain for A/C on right-side firewall, but no water comes out when hoseing down. Any imput appreciated.
01-20-2010 05:15 PM
JeffsJeep
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Originally Posted by chucky cheese View Post
Have your wife sit behind the wheel and make engine noises for effects.
Might wanna make sure you're pretty confident you've got the problem resolved before adding her to the mix. Imagine the look on her face if she's sitting in the Jeep looking at you holding the hose aimed at the Jeep and all of a sudden the jet of water finds its way into the spot you missed and you're laughing and she's not. :O

On a serious note, notebook paper or paper towels with felt pen markings can do wonders for helping trace water leaks. Just be sure not to let the pen markings get onto the carpet, etc.
01-19-2010 08:22 PM
billyb Same problem, 2000 TJ. I actually get more water in the driver's side, though. Drips from the dash onto my ankles. And it only happens when highway driving when a lot of spray's in the air. I cleaned the cowl drain yesterday and it was full of garbage. Now I have to wait for a heavy rain and a highway trip to see if it's fixed or not.
01-19-2010 07:12 PM
Fweaky My 89YJ will have water in the floor if it rains hard and the heater control is moved too far past heat toward vent.
Could also be caused by a plugged condenser drain hose.
01-19-2010 07:09 PM
Rocky Bar
Water Also

Seem to have the same water issue as you do. Got a 97 TJ new to us. Went to town today (rain), no water in passenger cupped floor mat, got home and water was in mat (about 1/2 cup). Ran hand all around door frame area, was dry. Any help would also be appreciated.
01-19-2010 06:49 PM
Nicholson I will... Probably won't get to it until this weekend at the earliest. Its supposed to snow this week anyway.
01-19-2010 04:21 PM
chucky cheese
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Not to be redundant, and I have tried to look at all the other leakage threads, but I am having some issues. 01 TJ with soft top and full doors, and whenever I drive in HARD rain above 45mph I get a puddle on my passenger side floor mat. I took off the cowl below the windshield and re-sealed everywhere that looked like it could be letting in water. Then I made sure the drain was clear, dumped a pitcher of water down it and it drained fine.

I know for sure that it is rain water, but I'm not sure if maybe my fan is sucking it in somehow, seems to happen for sure when I'm running the defroster, but only when I'm driving at high speeds... I know for sure it isn't the doors or the top as well... something in the firewall below the windshield above the floorboard.

Needless to say it's driving my wife nuts so I would like to fix it asap. Any help you could all offer would be great... too bad Bransford lives where it never rains otherwise I would ask for his input...
Oh yeah, let us know the outcome so we can be learned.
01-19-2010 08:02 AM
Kilroy Does this happen when the Heat/AC is off? It could be coming throgh the fresh air intake, or it could be condensation from the AC evaporator.
01-19-2010 07:59 AM
Kilroy
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Originally Posted by Nicholson View Post

Needless to say it's driving my wife nuts ...

Just let your wife drive!
01-19-2010 07:14 AM
chucky cheese Oh yeah simulate a hard rain with a hose but spray the jeep head on like your driving especialy head on at the cowling. Have your wife sit behind the wheel and make engine noises for effects.
01-19-2010 07:09 AM
chucky cheese I would do the process of elimination with quantity. Get a 5 gallon bucket of water, dump it on the hood check for leaks repeat working your way back. 5 gallons is alot of water and any leaks should show up. I would think it is in the vent cowl. Mine drains well but if we have a heavy hard rain my pass. floor will be wet. Or maybe the vent cowl has a leak up high and the movment of the jeep is causing the draining water to slosh around.
01-18-2010 09:51 PM
Nicholson If only I had taken mine out... I know it drips down from inside the dash because it hits my passenger's feet on the way down.
01-18-2010 09:48 PM
'97 TJ i had a problem similar to this for months and could never figure out the problem a buddy of mine was driving it and he discovered that when driven on wet roads water would splash up from the road through the drain holes and get the carpet soaked all i had to do was put the plugs back in
01-18-2010 07:32 PM
Nicholson I think we're on a bit of a tangent here gentlemen, (my fault)...
01-18-2010 07:30 PM
baja Sounds like you southern cal folks are in for alittle rain.
01-18-2010 07:23 PM
terrible2 Dont care what you say. I went from Oregon to California. Wtf it started hailing in fall. It wont rain all the time but when it does, its far more dangerous than Oregon as people try to drive faster so that they can get out of the rain faster.
01-18-2010 06:26 PM
Nicholson
Water, water, water

Not to be redundant, and I have tried to look at all the other leakage threads, but I am having some issues. 01 TJ with soft top and full doors, and whenever I drive in HARD rain above 45mph I get a puddle on my passenger side floor mat. I took off the cowl below the windshield and re-sealed everywhere that looked like it could be letting in water. Then I made sure the drain was clear, dumped a pitcher of water down it and it drained fine.

I know for sure that it is rain water, but I'm not sure if maybe my fan is sucking it in somehow, seems to happen for sure when I'm running the defroster, but only when I'm driving at high speeds... I know for sure it isn't the doors or the top as well... something in the firewall below the windshield above the floorboard.

Needless to say it's driving my wife nuts so I would like to fix it asap. Any help you could all offer would be great... too bad Bransford lives where it never rains otherwise I would ask for his input...

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