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02-18-2010 08:14 AM
skeeter Uh oh, looks like big brother may have decided that these are just too much fun.
How dare we have mufflers on guns, or even things that might resemble mufflers...

Fake suppressors now NFA items? - AR15.COM
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Announcement from ATI about the Fake Can.
To all retail customers:

On January 2010 American Tactical Imports Inc received official notification from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and explosives that the original barrel shroud (aka: fake suppressor) supplied with your GSG 5 SD model must be replaced. It has been determined that this shroud is regulated under the National Firearms Act. American Tactical will provide a replacement shroud at no charge for each GSG 5 SD model sold or currently in inventory.
Consumers in possession of a GSG 5 SD model with the original shroud in place on the firearm are now in violation of the NFA. To avoid continued violation of the NFA, ATI asks that all persons in possession obtain a replacement shroud as soon as possible. We anticipate arrival of the new shrouds to begin by the middle of February 2010.
IMPORTANT: THE ORIGINAL SD MODEL SHROUD MUST BE RETURNED ACOMPANIED BY THE FIREARM SERIAL NUMBER BEFORE A REPLACEMENT SHROUD IS ISSUED. THE DIAMETER OF THE SD SHROUD IS 1-9/16”. DO NOT RETURN THE SMALLER CARBINE SHROUD.
WHAT TO DO:
If possible return your old shroud to the dealer where purchased and show him this notice. The shroud will be returned to ATI along with a list of serial numbers from the guns that the shrouds were removed. ATI will send replacements to the dealer for pick up at your convenience; ATI will be sending replacements as fast as logistics allow. If your dealer is out of business or difficult to reach, or you purchased your gun used, from a consumer, return the shroud directly by US mail or UPS to American Tactical Imports Inc. 100 Airpark Drive Rochester, NY 14624.
PLEASE TRY NOT TO CALL US. We will provide comprehensive information on our web site American Tactical Imports , and AR15.Com or by e-mail to atiexchange@americantactical.us
REMEMBER, INCLUDE THE FIREARM SERIAL NUMBER WITH EACH SHROUD OR A REPLACEMENT WILL NOT BE ISSUED.
This action IS NOT being instituted through any fault and is strictly due to NFA compliance. American Tactical will assume the responsibility to satisfy the requirements in an effort to minimize the impact on our customers and protect your investment.
We at American Tactical Imports Inc. sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused by this unfortunate situation.

Sincerely,
Anthony DiChario
President C.E.O. retailcandoc.021210
02-10-2010 11:13 PM
Joe Dirt I took it out shooting today with my son and some friends. Once I got the sights zeroed it shot real nice. I'm a big fan of the H&K style sights. We had a lot of fun. It is a bit of a PITA to clean.
02-10-2010 08:43 AM
skeeter They can get a bit warm...
YouTube - Burning AK47 - 300 Rounds & on Fire


Biggest risk is an out of battery detonation.
YouTube - Madman breaking 1919 machinegun
02-09-2010 10:25 PM
Joe Dirt No full Auto. I think the black helicopters in California are now following me just because you asked and I can hear Nancy Pelosi at my door with the FBI as we speak.

Seriously, a full auto weapon needs more than just a full auto sear. The increadible heat that builds up will quickly destroy a normal barrel and other internal parts. That is why machine guns have heavy barrels and lots of steal parts (not much alloy).
02-09-2010 09:38 PM
05GT-O.C.D.
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Originally Posted by RedWrangler View Post
Do any of these shoot full auto?

Is it hard to do the conversion? Not that any of the law abiding WFers would ever consider such madness, but just wondering....
No.

And even if I knew I wouldn't say. Simply asking the question is in poor taste assuming that you know it's highly illegal to convert them.
02-09-2010 09:10 PM
chezuki
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Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
No.
There are Ruger 10/22's that were converted prior to the 86 ban that can be purchased if you live in a free state. Or you can convert/build new post samples if you have the proper manufacturing license however converting any semi auto rifle not specifically designed to run full auto is extremely dangerous.

And will land you a minimum 10 year stay at Club Fed if you survive the trial and error period to make it work. ANY full auto weapon or auto sear must be serialized, made before 1986, and on the books for a citizen (in a state that allows it, AND with proper NFA tax stamp) to own period unless you're a class 3 SOT.
02-09-2010 07:35 PM
skeeter No.
There are Ruger 10/22's that were converted prior to the 86 ban that can be purchased if you live in a free state. Or you can convert/build new post samples if you have the proper manufacturing license however converting any semi auto rifle not specifically designed to run full auto is extremely dangerous.
02-09-2010 06:45 PM
RedWrangler Do any of these shoot full auto?

Is it hard to do the conversion? Not that any of the law abiding WFers would ever consider such madness, but just wondering....
02-09-2010 06:29 PM
Joe Dirt I picked it up today after my CA waiting period
I can't wait to shoot the thing. The only issue I see is that the mags are all plastic, including the lips. I hope they don't wear out too fast.
02-02-2010 11:28 PM
birdhunter I agree to much$$ for a 22 POS
But I tell you what after you empty
that drum then slap in the 30 you cant wipe the smile
off your face for the rest of the day
02-02-2010 10:27 PM
Joe Dirt I remember back in the 80's when those came out they were $200. $600 seems a little steep. For that price you can get a GSG SP89.
02-01-2010 09:54 PM
birdhunter Very Nice
A bud has a tec-22 scorpion
30 round clip and a 50 drum
threaded barrel
He wants 600 for it
02-01-2010 08:45 PM
05GT-O.C.D. Yeah, the Charger and this are completely different. I'd like to have one of each.
02-01-2010 07:37 PM
Joe Dirt The Ruger Charger appears to be a cut down 10/22 rifle. I have a heavy barrel 10/22 already. It is fun to shoot. I just wanted something different.
02-01-2010 04:22 PM
mrcarcrazy I personally prefer my Ruger Charger as far as a plinking "toy"...

they are fun to shoot....mainly just b/c they look cool.
02-01-2010 02:30 PM
sdunsworth Buddy of mine bought one about 6 weeks ago. Fun toy and cheap to shoot.
01-31-2010 02:35 PM
Joe Dirt
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Originally Posted by chezuki View Post
Is the can real? If so, how long did the NFA paperwork take? I really want to use my Walther p22 as a suppressor host.


:EDIT: From the pic, it looks like its not real, but a barrel shroud to keep it out of the SBR range since it has a stock.
Haha..You must have not seen that I'm from CA. NOTHING is legal hear. It's all fake. The supressor looking thing just covers the CA mandated 16" barrel. The Long magazine is really a CA legal 10 round one. The stock on mine does not collapse, because that would be CA illegal too. If the politicians in my state had their way a screwdriver with more than one removable tip would be an assault screwdriver and illegal...

Despite all that, the gun has a great feel, weight and the H&K design is awsome. Sure I wish I could have a full auto, suppressed subgun with a 50 round drum, but I'll take what I can get.
01-30-2010 07:32 PM
chezuki Is the can real? If so, how long did the NFA paperwork take? I really want to use my Walther p22 as a suppressor host.


:EDIT: From the pic, it looks like its not real, but a barrel shroud to keep it out of the SBR range since it has a stock.
01-30-2010 05:21 PM
Joe Dirt H&K is going to be building their own. I've got a feeling the price will be much higher.
01-30-2010 03:33 PM
05GT-O.C.D. Yeah, good to get that while you can. They're a very stout .22. I was impressed with the build as I expected something more lightweight.
01-30-2010 03:30 PM
skeeter The GSG 5 is a lot of fun, it's too bad H&K sued em to stop production.
01-29-2010 08:27 PM
schnutzy let us know how well it shoots!
01-29-2010 08:17 PM
Joe Dirt On sale for $520
01-29-2010 07:45 PM
whiteyj Very nice plinker......
01-29-2010 07:20 PM
RatherBNarizona that is sweet!!!
01-29-2010 06:07 PM
AzTJ What did that run you? A friend of mine just an AR-15 in .22 size. He paid ~$500 for it.
01-29-2010 06:04 PM
PecosRiver Looks like fun! Very nice.
01-29-2010 04:52 PM
Joe Dirt
New toy MP5SD

Check out my new toy. It's a GSG MP5SD. It's .22 Caliber so it will be cheap to shoot.

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