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10-18-2013 11:58 PM
c5wagner
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Originally Posted by brachilius View Post
Great find! I am assuming it is the 4:1 t-case. If so...that is awesome.
Sure does have the 4:1, I'm just going to need to lengthen the front driveshaft and have the rear shortened a little
10-18-2013 11:01 PM
brachilius Great find! I am assuming it is the 4:1 t-case. If so...that is awesome.
10-18-2013 10:23 PM
c5wagner So I was able to pick up a nv3550 with the nv241or t-case from a 2004 rubicon someone was parting out. I got it all complete for $400 which seems great to me. Has about 80000 miles so I won't rebuild yet, but I'm replacing the clutch.
10-18-2013 06:48 PM
brachilius I loved my 435. I ran 4.56 with 33s and a 2.5l. 4.10s with 35s or 37s would be perfect with the v8. Because 1st gear is so low, I could crawl over everything.
10-18-2013 06:24 AM
OverkillYJ
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Originally Posted by c5wagner View Post
With a v8 and 4:10 axles, you'll want 35's or 37's quicker than you realize
I would have them now. I didn't regear because I knew I will be pulling my motor out. I dropped $1200 on 33" tires 6 months ago. I drive too much highway to go larger then that before I swap. $1200 or so to regear when 4:10 will be perfect for a v8 made no sense.
10-18-2013 06:20 AM
OverkillYJ
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Originally Posted by c5wagner View Post
with a v8 and 4:10 axles, you'll want 35's or 37's quicker than you realize
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10-17-2013 10:50 PM
c5wagner
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Originally Posted by OverkillYJ View Post
I was just looking at those specs. Damn, a 1st gear lower then 6:1. And the 1:1 4th might make that a good solution. Only thing I dont like is that it has no overdrive gear since I will be driving my Jeep more then usual for a new job I just got. have a car, but who wants to drive a car when they got a Jeep. Even with overdrive gas mileage will suck with a V8. But I also guess that with a 1:1 4th, I would be fine forever with 4:10 axles.
With a v8 and 4:10 axles, you'll want 35's or 37's quicker than you realize
10-17-2013 10:16 PM
OverkillYJ
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Originally Posted by brachilius View Post
Get an np435 granny 4spd. You can use all stock ford parts to mate it to the 302. Advanced adapters has an adapter to the 231. I ran one for years behind my 2.5. It is an awesome tranny. It can be found for very cheap. The length was pretty close to the ax-5.
I was just looking at those specs. Damn, a 1st gear lower then 6:1. And the 1:1 4th might make that a good solution. Only thing I dont like is that it has no overdrive gear since I will be driving my Jeep more then usual for a new job I just got. have a car, but who wants to drive a car when they got a Jeep. Even with overdrive gas mileage will suck with a V8. But I also guess that with a 1:1 4th, I would be fine forever with 4:10 axles.
10-17-2013 06:52 PM
brachilius Get an np435 granny 4spd. You can use all stock ford parts to mate it to the 302. Advanced adapters has an adapter to the 231. I ran one for years behind my 2.5. It is an awesome tranny. It can be found for very cheap. The length was pretty close to the ax-5.
10-17-2013 06:14 PM
OverkillYJ
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Originally Posted by MTJeepTJ View Post
Overkill.

Adapting Ford Engines to the Jeep NV3550 Transmission

Not sure on a total length for you. But as far as realistic i would either run a 4 speed or try and shove a AX15 or NV3500. Possibly a flipped dana 300 behind it.

Additives dont always do much. But lube gaurd isnt cheap, and youll find that out if you buy some. Its not crazy spendy, but i have seen this yellow gear additive from them smooth out toyota 5 speeds after rebuilds, for real.
Its the length that kills me. I dont want to relocate my gas tank for a stretch unless it is a last resort. I will start a thread on this. I already know I can adapt the NV3550 or AX15 to a 302, I am looing for something that is not only stronger, but shorter in length. The strength of the TC is not as much of a concern if I have to stay with an NP231.
10-17-2013 03:50 PM
OregonPlinker I dont know a lot about trannys. I have always preferred manual transmissions over autos. My most recent jeep is an auto and offroad I love it. There would have to be some MAJOR benefits for me to go back to a manual tranny in my offroad rigs. I would try to find an auto setup for it.

Doesnt the 4.0 make almost as much power and torque as the old stock 350?
10-17-2013 03:45 PM
c5wagner
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Originally Posted by MTJeepTJ View Post
One more small thing to add. Depending on the rebuild kit you use, i have seen "offshore" cheapy synchros that are not shaped right and they will stick to the gears. They make it hard to shift into another gear cause its stuck. The lube gaurd could help you in this area. I used to get all the rebuild kits from a place call "alltrans" in oregon. But they got bought out by transtar, i believe they still sell the same parts tho.
Got a great quality kit from motive gear. Everything was actually pretty nice. The syncros were probably better than oem. I get axle parts as well from them
10-17-2013 03:36 PM
MTJeepTJ One more small thing to add. Depending on the rebuild kit you use, i have seen "offshore" cheapy synchros that are not shaped right and they will stick to the gears. They make it hard to shift into another gear cause its stuck. The lube gaurd could help you in this area. I used to get all the rebuild kits from a place call "alltrans" in oregon. But they got bought out by transtar, i believe they still sell the same parts tho.
10-17-2013 03:28 PM
MTJeepTJ Overkill.

Adapting Ford Engines to the Jeep NV3550 Transmission

Not sure on a total length for you. But as far as realistic i would either run a 4 speed or try and shove a AX15 or NV3500. Possibly a flipped dana 300 behind it.

Additives dont always do much. But lube gaurd isnt cheap, and youll find that out if you buy some. Its not crazy spendy, but i have seen this yellow gear additive from them smooth out toyota 5 speeds after rebuilds, for real.
10-17-2013 03:22 PM
c5wagner
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Originally Posted by MTJeepTJ View Post
I worked as a rebuilder in a transmission for for years before my job i have now. I helped out a lot of guys like overkill. Ha, i wouldnt use the 700r4 or the th350 behind the inline 6. They take a lot more power to turn than the ax15. It probably is a worn or sticking detent in your rail system. One thing you could try is a company called "lube gaurd" makes an additive for manual trannys. Its in a yellow bottle by the gear oil at most parts stores. dump some in and drive it for a bit while you round up anther ax15 to build. I would build another one and swap it out.

heres a link-Gear
Thanks for the advice, I will definitely try that additive out while finding another ax-15

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Originally Posted by OverkillYJ View Post
Btw, will that additive probably solve his problem for a while? Is it a detergent, stsbilizer or what?
And I'm assuming not a solved problem, just a way to buy time while I find a replacement
10-17-2013 03:16 PM
OverkillYJ
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Originally Posted by MTJeepTJ View Post
I worked as a rebuilder in a transmission for for years before my job i have now. I helped out a lot of guys like overkill. Ha, i wouldnt use the 700r4 or the th350 behind the inline 6. They take a lot more power to turn than the ax15. It probably is a worn or sticking detent in your rail system. One thing you could try is a company called "lube gaurd" makes an additive for manual trannys. Its in a yellow bottle by the gear oil at most parts stores. dump some in and drive it for a bit while you round up anther ax15 to build. I would build another one and swap it out.

heres a link-Gear
Not trying to hyjack here, but since you seem to know transmissions. What is the shortest manual trans/tc combo with a driver side drop that I can put behind a 302? Would have to be a 5 speed at least.

Btw, will that additive probably solve his problem for a while? Is it a detergent, stsbilizer or what?
10-17-2013 02:57 PM
MTJeepTJ I worked as a rebuilder in a transmission for for years before my job i have now. I helped out a lot of guys like overkill. Ha, i wouldnt use the 700r4 or the th350 behind the inline 6. They take a lot more power to turn than the ax15. It probably is a worn or sticking detent in your rail system. One thing you could try is a company called "lube gaurd" makes an additive for manual trannys. Its in a yellow bottle by the gear oil at most parts stores. dump some in and drive it for a bit while you round up anther ax15 to build. I would build another one and swap it out.

heres a link-Gear
10-17-2013 02:53 PM
c5wagner
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Originally Posted by OverkillYJ View Post
Last time I needed a part like that the only place I could find them was a transmission shop. I stopped by and the guys pulled out a box full of extra parts. Apparently they keep a box for each type of transmission. Then they just gave me what I needed. I had actually dropped one of those little rollers that hold the shift fork in the gear and couldn't find where it bounced to for the life of me.

If that doesn't work when you call around I would start emailing people on Ebay and find out who has spare parts laying around.
Man, just when I finally got the new 8.8 in, I have to have the money pit out of service again lol. I'll drop the tranny tomorrow and crack it open saturday, then I'll let you know
10-17-2013 02:44 PM
OverkillYJ
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Originally Posted by c5wagner View Post
I was suspecting that, but those didn't come in the master rebuild kit. Know where I could find them? I actually tried when rebuilding the POS but didn't have luck...
Last time I needed a part like that the only place I could find them was a transmission shop. I stopped by and the guys pulled out a box full of extra parts. Apparently they keep a box for each type of transmission. Then they just gave me what I needed. I had actually dropped one of those little rollers that hold the shift fork in the gear and couldn't find where it bounced to for the life of me.

If that doesn't work when you call around I would start emailing people on Ebay and find out who has spare parts laying around.
10-17-2013 02:12 PM
c5wagner
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Originally Posted by OverkillYJ View Post
It almost sounds like one of the little balls that keeps the shift forks from sliding into gear while another gear is engage is worn down. I know if two of them try to engage at the same time it will stop you from being able to shift, but if you try to shift into a gear that is used by the shift fork that is not in the correct position it will put it back into place and let you shift into other gears. Hard to explain, but since you said your savy I think you followed that.

I know if one of those is out of place just a hair it can stop you from being able to shift into any gear except the one that is out of place which realigns it and corrects the problem until it vibrates out of place again.
I was suspecting that, but those didn't come in the master rebuild kit. Know where I could find them? I actually tried when rebuilding the POS but didn't have luck...
10-17-2013 01:54 PM
OverkillYJ It almost sounds like one of the little balls that keeps the shift forks from sliding into gear while another gear is engage is worn down. I know if two of them try to engage at the same time it will stop you from being able to shift, but if you try to shift into a gear that is used by the shift fork that is not in the correct position it will put it back into place and let you shift into other gears. Hard to explain, but since you said your savy I think you followed that.

I know if one of those is out of place just a hair it can stop you from being able to shift into any gear except the one that is out of place which realigns it and corrects the problem until it vibrates out of place again.
10-17-2013 01:41 PM
c5wagner
I think I'm over the ax-15

So last sunday I went up to my local trails in big bear, but on my way up I had to upshift but it would not go into gear. I had to pull over, and it would not go into any gear and then it finally went into reverse, and after shifting into reverse, it was easy to shift into any gear again. This happened many times but it exited gears easily but wouldn't shift into a gear again without trying all the gears until it worked again. This has been intermittent all this week and I have no clue what is wrong. I just rebuilt it (correctly as I'm pretty savy with these thing), changed the clutch parts while doing it, shimmed it right when mounting again. This started after the drive up the mountain when before it worked amazing. I have a few transmissions I can replace it with that are all rebuilt and I have in the garage: 1988 700r4, 2 turbo 350s, and unfortunately I just sold my nv4500. So it's either fix the ax-15 or put in an automatic. I have priced the adapters, and the adapters would be cheaper than another ax-15, and I can't find a core in my area to rebuild either.

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