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11-10-2013 10:57 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by co-utah View Post
F&^ck automatics, especially the archaic POS they put in the Wrangler... They are great if you don't know how to drive or only have one leg. Why do you think the autos have to have "Hill Descent Control?" Think about it.



FYI ...

The NAG1 was the 2005 AMG 55 Mercedes Benz automatic transmission and very bullet proof - used in all the SRT8's until recent.

Also, the remark about not knowing how to drive unless you own a manual is ridiculous. Who needs two legs if you know how to drive a manual with straight-cut constant mesh gears?

Wake up - if you ONLY know how to shift a manual synchromesh transmission, then you may as well buy an automatic.



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11-10-2013 08:08 PM
Radioman
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Originally Posted by hellhound94 View Post
FWIW the jeep.com website section which allows you to build your Jeep has been corrected. I tried it a little while ago and it now automatically gives you the 4.10 gears like it should have in the first place.
X2. The website shows the 4.1 as standard equipment with a Rubi with a manual tranny.
11-10-2013 07:27 PM
Delta Lyons When you select the 6 speed it locked the 4.10 in the box on the dealers computer. I think if you go auto it is standard with 3.73 with the option of 4.10.
11-10-2013 07:16 PM
hellhound94 FWIW the jeep.com website section which allows you to build your Jeep has been corrected. I tried it a little while ago and it now automatically gives you the 4.10 gears like it should have in the first place.
11-07-2013 09:47 PM
breez78 Where do you find your gear info , Delta ?
11-07-2013 09:41 PM
Delta Lyons I have a 14 two door rubi with a 6 speed and 4.10 gears.
11-07-2013 09:19 PM
breez78 Attachment 494786

Not sure if this helps. I just bought a 2014 rubicon and the sticker said nothing about gears. I saw these in the owners manual. Is the "axle" column talking about the gearing you think ? I put the pics showing 2 door and 4 door ruby info.
11-03-2013 07:58 AM
Ruby Tuesday HAHA..another auto vs. stick thread....
11-03-2013 06:28 AM
Darnice
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Originally Posted by co-utah View Post
F&^ck automatics, especially the archaic POS they put in the Wrangler... They are great if you don't know how to drive or only have one leg. Why do you think the autos have to have "Hill Descent Control?" Think about it.
Actually, the 5 speed automatic they are using in the Wranger is darn near bullet proof. Built to handle way more power than the V6 is sending it. Also, same tranny is used in many very high priced luxury cars (Bently)
I'll take 5 dependaple proven gears over a gazillion speed unproven design any day.

So don't slam the auto, its a great tranny, but I understand the want for a manual, but not cause the auto is crap, cause its not.
If you want a manual, get it. its cool.
11-02-2013 09:14 PM
FiveBoro
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Originally Posted by 2five22 View Post
Using this logic, shouldn't we all be driving Subaru Foresters and all have a BA degree in Gender Studies?
Ironically the Forester only has a 4 speed auto, up to 2014 anyway.
11-02-2013 08:44 PM
scottmphoto
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Originally Posted by 2five22 View Post
Using this logic, shouldn't we all be driving Subaru Foresters and all have a BA degree in Gender Studies?
11-02-2013 08:38 PM
jeepedjeep
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Originally Posted by 2five22 View Post
Using this logic, shouldn't we all be driving Subaru Foresters and all have a BA degree in Gender Studies?
lol
11-02-2013 08:37 PM
jeepedjeep
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Originally Posted by legitposter View Post
It's 2013, not 1975. Have you considered getting the automatic?
oh yeah and my mom drives an auto lol my wife drives a stick 2500 and
11-02-2013 08:35 PM
2five22
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Originally Posted by legitposter View Post
It's 2013, not 1975. Have you considered getting the automatic?

Using this logic, shouldn't we all be driving Subaru Foresters and all have a BA degree in Gender Studies?
11-02-2013 08:34 PM
jeepedjeep
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Originally Posted by legitposter View Post
It's 2013, not 1975. Have you considered getting the automatic?
It's 2013 ......I have a 2013 JKUR 6spd I have 2 hands and am able to select the gear I am in and in any condition plus it just feels great like driving a harley ......they don't make and auto
11-02-2013 08:27 PM
gsn
Quote:
Originally Posted by co-utah View Post
F&^ck automatics, especially the archaic POS they put in the Wrangler... They are great if you don't know how to drive or only have one leg. Why do you think the autos have to have "Hill Descent Control?" Think about it.
My god, this nearly made me spit my drink in laughter. Quite funny yet really mean, I'm going to hell. Byeeee
11-02-2013 07:59 PM
co-utah So just to help me with my paranoia over this, I ran at exactly 2000RPM in 6th today. I put the speedo on digital and it went back and forth between 56 and 57mph.

Stock 2014 Unlimited Rubicon, just a few hundred miles, stock tires.

Hopefully that matches others with 4.10 gears. Let us know if you differ.
10-31-2013 10:45 AM
kik The web site has inaccurate info. every year for something. That's why there's a disclaimer. When/if you go to a dealer you'll get the most updated info. Hopefully.
10-31-2013 10:38 AM
BigSkyJeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by co-utah View Post
F&^ck automatics, especially the archaic POS they put in the Wrangler... They are great if you don't know how to drive or only have one leg. Why do you think the autos have to have "Hill Descent Control?" Think about it.
This...if the auto box in the wrangler were at least 6 speeds, preferably more, I might have given it a passing glance. A 5-speed auto, what is this the 1990's?
10-31-2013 10:30 AM
co-utah
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Originally Posted by machz View Post
It didn't show because it isn't an option it's standard on the 6 sp. If you had an auto and wanted 4.10 it would be an option over the 3.73 and it would show.
It would make a lot more sense to actually show the gears on the sticker. The transfer case isn't an option either, but it shows up under "Standard Features". On other vehicles with multiple gear choices (Example: Ford Mustang) they always show which gears are on the car, even if they are the standard ones.

I wonder how often Jeep salespeople are asked what gears are on a vehicle, and they have to just convince someone they are 4.10 or 3.73 or whatever. The fact that someone else on another similar thread actually called Chrysler and they didn't even know what gears were standard kind of drives home the point. I'm sure almost no one buying a Chrysler 200 gives a rat, but it is an important piece of information for Jeep owners.
10-31-2013 09:46 AM
machz
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Originally Posted by co-utah View Post
Now I'm starting to wonder what the reality is with a 2014 Unlimited Rubicon 6-speed as far as rear gears. I bought one a few weeks ago and just assumed they were 4.10. I just printed the window sticker from the http://www.chrysler.com/hostd/window...kerPdf.do?vin= for my Rubicon, and there is no mention of the rear gears anywhere in the "Standard Equipment" section and no option for gears, either.

JEEP WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON 4X4
Exterior Color:Black Clear Coat Exterior Paint
Interior Color:Black Interior Color
Interior:Cloth Seats with Adjustable Head Restraints
Engine:3.6-Liter V6 24-Valve VVT Engine
Transmission:6-Speed Manual Transmission
STANDARD EQUIPMENT (UNLESS REPLACED BY
OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT)
FUNCTIONAL/SAFETY FEATURES
4:1 Rock-Trac(R) Part-Time 4WD System
Tru-Lok(R) Front and Rear Axles
Electronic Front Sway Bar Disconnect
Rear Stabilizer Bar
Next Generation Dana(R) 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
Next Generation Dana(R) 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
Rock Rails
Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
22.5-Gallon Fuel Tank
Advanced Multistage Front Airbags
Electronic Stability Control
4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Traction Control
Electronic Roll Mitigation
Hill Start Assist
Trailer Sway Damping
Sentry Key(R) Theft Deterrent System
Security Alarm
Tire Pressure Monitor with Warning Lamp
Speed Control
INTERIOR FEATURES
Auto Dimming Mirror with Reading Lamp
Air Conditioning
Power Windows with Front One-Touch-Down Feature
Power Door Locks
Remote Keyless Entry
Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls
Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel
Tilt Steering Column
Uconnect(R) 130 AM/FM/CD/MP3
Alpine(R) Premium Audio System
Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices
SiriusXM Satellite Radio w/ 1-Yr Radio Subscription
For More Information, Call 888-539-7474
Temperature and Compass Gauge
Driver Seat Height Adjuster
Rear 60 / 40 Folding Seat
115-Volt Auxiliary Power Outlet



I just went on the website and built a 2014 Rubicon Unlimited, and when you get to the Powertrain section, both 3.73 and 4.10 are listed, but 4.10 is checked by default, and the website won't let you check 3.73 with either transmission.

Is there a column in the VIN for rear gears? Or, is there a sticker or plate somewhere externally? Or am I going to have to go 60 mph in 6th and get the RPM's and compare to someone else?
It didn't show because it isn't an option it's standard on the 6 sp. If you had an auto and wanted 4.10 it would be an option over the 3.73 and it would show.
10-31-2013 09:46 AM
co-utah
Quote:
Originally Posted by legitposter View Post
It's 2013, not 1975. Have you considered getting the automatic?
F&^ck automatics, especially the archaic POS they put in the Wrangler... They are great if you don't know how to drive or only have one leg. Why do you think the autos have to have "Hill Descent Control?" Think about it.
10-31-2013 09:42 AM
jkjeeper06
Quote:
Originally Posted by legitposter View Post
It's 2013, not 1975. Have you considered getting the automatic?
The OP may just see that no other auto makers are producing 5 speed autos and would get a 6+ speed auto if they had one but jeep chose to stick with older tech on the new tranny

Plus the op may just like having a manual transmission and that's ok
10-31-2013 09:36 AM
legitposter It's 2013, not 1975. Have you considered getting the automatic?
10-31-2013 09:34 AM
co-utah Now I'm starting to wonder what the reality is with a 2014 Unlimited Rubicon 6-speed as far as rear gears. I bought one a few weeks ago and just assumed they were 4.10. I just printed the window sticker from the http://www.chrysler.com/hostd/window...kerPdf.do?vin= for my Rubicon, and there is no mention of the rear gears anywhere in the "Standard Equipment" section and no option for gears, either.

JEEP WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON 4X4
Exterior Color:Black Clear Coat Exterior Paint
Interior Color:Black Interior Color
Interior:Cloth Seats with Adjustable Head Restraints
Engine:3.6-Liter V6 24-Valve VVT Engine
Transmission:6-Speed Manual Transmission
STANDARD EQUIPMENT (UNLESS REPLACED BY
OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT)
FUNCTIONAL/SAFETY FEATURES
4:1 Rock-Trac(R) Part-Time 4WD System
Tru-Lok(R) Front and Rear Axles
Electronic Front Sway Bar Disconnect
Rear Stabilizer Bar
Next Generation Dana(R) 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
Next Generation Dana(R) 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
Rock Rails
Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
22.5-Gallon Fuel Tank
Advanced Multistage Front Airbags
Electronic Stability Control
4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Traction Control
Electronic Roll Mitigation
Hill Start Assist
Trailer Sway Damping
Sentry Key(R) Theft Deterrent System
Security Alarm
Tire Pressure Monitor with Warning Lamp
Speed Control
INTERIOR FEATURES
Auto Dimming Mirror with Reading Lamp
Air Conditioning
Power Windows with Front One-Touch-Down Feature
Power Door Locks
Remote Keyless Entry
Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls
Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel
Tilt Steering Column
Uconnect(R) 130 AM/FM/CD/MP3
Alpine(R) Premium Audio System
Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices
SiriusXM Satellite Radio w/ 1-Yr Radio Subscription
For More Information, Call 888-539-7474
Temperature and Compass Gauge
Driver Seat Height Adjuster
Rear 60 / 40 Folding Seat
115-Volt Auxiliary Power Outlet



I just went on the website and built a 2014 Rubicon Unlimited, and when you get to the Powertrain section, both 3.73 and 4.10 are listed, but 4.10 is checked by default, and the website won't let you check 3.73 with either transmission.

Is there a column in the VIN for rear gears? Or, is there a sticker or plate somewhere externally? Or am I going to have to go 60 mph in 6th and get the RPM's and compare to someone else?
10-13-2013 03:53 PM
panthermark The website is messed up. It happens every year.
10-13-2013 03:10 PM
SL75 I ordered a 2 dr rubicon at the end of September. Manual transmission with 4.10. On the website, the rubicon x only has 3.73 option with manual. Maybe that is the only option on an x or the website is messed up.
10-13-2013 02:00 PM
03SVT
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Originally Posted by hellhound94 View Post
But it was NOT a JKUR I tried to order, it was a JKR and when you go through the process, it automatically checks off 3.73. It shows 4.10 as an option but if you check the box it tells you that you MUST order an automatic transmission if you want 4.10 gears.
Not sure; just went to jeep.com (it was building a 2013 though) and 4.10 were standard with the manual and you are right that option changes when building a 2014. That website has had weird things about it before though. My 2014 has 4.10 with a manual so I would just wait for someone with a two door to chime in.
10-13-2013 01:54 PM
03SVT
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Originally Posted by Scott2373 View Post

Manuel? They come with a Mexican pool boy??
Ha, that dang e
10-13-2013 01:50 PM
Scott2373
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Originally Posted by 03SVT View Post
4.10 are standard with a Manuel on the JKUR. That is why they are not an option.
Manuel? They come with a Mexican pool boy??
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