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09-09-2014 09:17 PM
copperhead_1
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Originally Posted by Razer View Post
This is real close up, so it looks worse here than it really does. Comments appreciated.
Exactly how mine looks. No way to get it to not look like that. I've re set them in made sure not to slide etc many many times. No way to make it not look like that (annoying). Mine are also uneven, can't remember off the top of my head but I think the driver side is closer to the front of the jeep?? I think the holes in the frame are jacked up i.e. Not exactly in the same position. There also is that little foam thingy in the passenger side seal near the rear that you mentioned...seems to make it pop up giving it a pinched look.

My fix...take em off and park in the garage! If anyone has a serious fix, I look forward to it.
09-09-2014 08:53 PM
Razer
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
That sure looks like a pinched seal to me (the part thats bumped out, not the flap). The fact that your panels aren't even is weird as well.

They are installed exactly as described in this thread, no pinching. But the flap looks out of place to me vs. what I've seen elsewhere.

No leaks from the top though.
09-09-2014 08:14 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by Razer View Post
This is real close up, so it looks worse here than it really does. Comments appreciated.


That sure looks like a pinched seal to me (the part thats bumped out, not the flap). The fact that your panels aren't even is weird as well.
09-09-2014 08:13 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by bonedr View Post
. . . . .

Good info . . gonna order some of this stuff (Shin-Etsu grease).

How often do you recommend applying this stuff? Would you personally apply it to a brand new Jeep or wait?
I apply it based on visual inspections. Usually once or twice a year is plenty, unless I've taken it through some harsh conditions (like salt)....in that case, I like to clean em up and give them a fresh coat of grease. Takes me 10 minutes, and keeps me leak free.
09-09-2014 08:42 AM
Mack207
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Originally Posted by WebDevDan View Post
I brought the strike plates way inboard. Makes it so you have to slam the door a little harder, but seals up super tight and it doesn't look like my door is too far in. Just make sure you only slide it horizontally, ya don't wanna mess with the up and down.
Did that about 6 months ago to get rid of some wind noise. There's a possibility that the plate could have dropped and that's what's causing the leak. I'll double check it if IT EVER QUITS RAINING!!!!!!
09-09-2014 07:55 AM
JeeperJake "I brought the strike plates way inboard. Makes it so you have to slam the door a little harder, but seals up super tight" There's an idea I hadn't considered....will check it out, thanks for the tip.
09-09-2014 07:19 AM
WebDevDan
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Originally Posted by Mack207 View Post
Anyone found the cause or fix to the leaks at the top rear corner of the doors? Every time I stop I have water dripping down my neck. Cleaned the seals and applied the honda stuff weekend before last.
I brought the strike plates way inboard. Makes it so you have to slam the door a little harder, but seals up super tight and it doesn't look like my door is too far in. Just make sure you only slide it horizontally, ya don't wanna mess with the up and down.
09-09-2014 07:01 AM
Mack207 Don't know if this has been posted yet, but I think I found another place water can leak through. On the top of the doors, there is a gap in the track that holds the weatherstripping. Last time I cleaned my seals, I popped the weatherstripping out, applied the Honda grease to the seal around the gap, and re-set the seal in the track. It's rained 4" since, and not a leak.
07-18-2014 05:29 PM
Razer This is real close up, so it looks worse here than it really does. Comments appreciated.


07-18-2014 05:10 PM
Razer I went through the process here using the shin-etsu honda greas from Amazon, and reinstalled the tops. No pinched seals, but the drivers side top is about a 1/8th inch or so forward in relationship to the passenger side.

Also, there is a small "tab" at the center rear of the passenger door that sticks out. Nothing that I can do about that other than cut if off.

Other than those two issues, this went smoothly. I haven't had any leaks, this was just a preventative maintenance activity for me.
07-17-2014 07:28 AM
al2ride Spray all rubber seals and vinyl decals with 303 Aerospace Protectant at least once a year. They'll last forever.
07-17-2014 07:20 AM
bonedr
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
So Im on my second JKU, both with hardtops only. First one had 23K before I gave it up and I have never had a leak. From my time on forums, I have seen that most people have leaks due to seal issues. Well, here are two things to can do (one is cheap, the other is free) so it behooves you to do them.

1) Keep your seals healthy and greasy. I write about the product I recommend here. It is Honda Shin-Etsu grease. Will keep your rubber plump, pliable, and protected, letting it do it's job.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/sco...ad-357785.html
. . . . .

Good info . . gonna order some of this stuff (Shin-Etsu grease).

How often do you recommend applying this stuff? Would you personally apply it to a brand new Jeep or wait?
07-17-2014 06:29 AM
REZ4x4
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Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
Jeff posted this over in another thread but thought it may fit here too.



Awesome Design
07-17-2014 05:54 AM
F1LOCO There's a reason T-tops vanished in the late 80s...they leaked. The Freedom Top is one of main reason's I traded my Jeep Arctic a year ago and recently got back in a Rubicon X - with a premium soft top. Not to mention in Florida, you only had a few day stretch in December and January where you could justify removing the top/doors for a stint.

My service manager said the key was not to over tighten them, of course, too loose and you are in trouble too. The annoying part was under braking it would alway run in like a river in the front...right over and on the radio.
07-16-2014 07:22 PM
Wingnut3140 In a good rain I had a leak over the rear view mirror and occasionally somewhere on the driver door. Tops where not pinched but dirty. Cleaned the seals with a damp rag then used the honda stuff. Couldn't believe how much dirt was on the seals. I understand why it leaked. Knock on wood I haven't had a leak since and I've been through several big storms. Keep them clean and lubed and that should help a lot.
07-16-2014 06:01 PM
snobnk Stop by any pool store and ask for jacks 327 oring lube. Its a non petroleum lube,looks and feels like vaseline..best stuff
07-16-2014 05:54 PM
JeeperJake The Shin-etsu stuff I got at the Honda dealer was $17 for a large tube.

Haven't actually given it a try yet though.
07-16-2014 04:46 PM
NyCSnEaK
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Originally Posted by dawhitesJKU View Post
I remember this thread last year before I sold my 2012 jk even though I had a soft top. I just purchased a willys jk and now this is gonna be my first purchase.

1. Now do I just use it on the hardtop rubber seals? Any other areas to apply it to?
2. When to reapply after first coat?
1. You can use it there. Also it can be used on the door seals. Pretty much any rubber seal.

2.. I do mine every two years. I usually wipe off the old film and put the new coating on.
07-15-2014 02:28 AM
vyv I think it's common knowledge or maybe my persistent fear that if I remove the panels, even only the front ones that even if they don't leak after refitting, they will sure squick with no cure for ever... This is my second jk (2 month old), and I haven't dared touching the freedom panels to enjoy squick free ride for as long as possible. My first jk squicked but not leaked from the first removal of panels. No matter what I did the squicks never disappeared. Unfortunately it's one of those things
07-15-2014 12:48 AM
dawhitesJKU I remember this thread last year before I sold my 2012 jk even though I had a soft top. I just purchased a willys jk and now this is gonna be my first purchase.

1. Now do I just use it on the hardtop rubber seals? Any other areas to apply it to?
2. When to reapply after first coat?
07-05-2014 02:02 PM
NyCSnEaK Op is giving great advice on the grease being used on any type of rubber seal. I've been using the ShinEtsu for over a decade and since then, none of my seals on any car I've owned have dried up or cracked.
07-05-2014 10:34 AM
scipio337 Its was the very first result in a google search for "shin etsu alternative". I may just stick to using the Turtle Wax Ice spray I've been using. I haven't had any leaks yet, but I'm taking a Colorado road trip, and don't want to take any chances.
07-04-2014 08:59 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by scipio337 View Post
Question, Dave. I looked at the white lithium grease I use for other things, Pertex, and of course, it's 90% petroleum distillates.

I perused the intrawebs looking for a cheaper (and more available) alternative, and found this, posted by you:



Alternative to Shin-Etsu grease? - S2KI Honda S2000 Forums

Granted, that was a while ago, but what changed your thinking on this? I'm looking for something I can buy locally that will do the trick. I'm not sure if plain old lithium grease will fit the bill.
Haha, funny you found that post. Honestly, that was back when it was much harder to get, and I haven't used it as much. I used other lithium greases, but never had results as good as the honda stuff, so I stuck with that. It's also easy to get these days (thanks to amazon). Knowledge and years of first hand use can change a man's mind.
07-02-2014 09:35 AM
scipio337
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
So Im on my second JKU, both with hardtops only. First one had 23K before I gave it up and I have never had a leak. From my time on forums, I have seen that most people have leaks due to seal issues. Well, here are two things to can do (one is cheap, the other is free) so it behooves you to do them.

1) Keep your seals healthy and greasy. I write about the product I recommend here. It is Honda Shin-Etsu grease. Will keep your rubber plump, pliable, and protected, letting it do it's job...

Question, Dave. I looked at the white lithium grease I use for other things, Pertex, and of course, it's 90% petroleum distillates.

I perused the intrawebs looking for a cheaper (and more available) alternative, and found this, posted by you:

Quote:
Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC
Posted 28 November 2006 - 01:28 AM

Shin Etsu is nothing more than white lithium grease..... You should be able to get it at any autoparts store (although many times, they never stock white, only black....)....try not to use silicone on rubber seals...once it is absorbed, the rubber cannot be treated again...
Alternative to Shin-Etsu grease? - S2KI Honda S2000 Forums

Granted, that was a while ago, but what changed your thinking on this? I'm looking for something I can buy locally that will do the trick. I'm not sure if plain old lithium grease will fit the bill.
06-09-2014 08:52 PM
Milkman Jeff posted this over in another thread but thought it may fit here too.

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Speaking of leaks, here's an idea Tom and I came up with that would eliminate the common leak at the center of the Freedom panels - a one-piece "Freedom from Leaks" panel with provision for a sunroof. What do people think of the idea?
06-09-2014 08:51 PM
chargermop
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Originally Posted by spudley View Post
Anyone have photos of what a new,non leaking jeep door seals should look like?
My dealer had to paint the inside of the hard top for warranty work and ever since the seals have paint over spray on them and the foam is quite flattened & the rubber portions a bit mangled looking.

I have leaks.

Some photos of what it should look like would likely get me a free warranty replacement of the seals.

Thanks!
At the point you have leaks and they over sprayed the seals I would demand seals be replaced to start with, then go from there.
06-09-2014 08:39 PM
spudley Anyone have photos of what a new,non leaking jeep door seals should look like?
My dealer had to paint the inside of the hard top for warranty work and ever since the seals have paint over spray on them and the foam is quite flattened & the rubber portions a bit mangled looking.

I have leaks.

Some photos of what it should look like would likely get me a free warranty replacement of the seals.

Thanks!
06-09-2014 05:12 PM
Todd Phooz
05-26-2014 12:59 PM
Palehorse68 Great information
04-28-2014 04:34 PM
Mack207 Anyone found the cause or fix to the leaks at the top rear corner of the doors? Every time I stop I have water dripping down my neck. Cleaned the seals and applied the honda stuff weekend before last.
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