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11-12-2013 02:47 PM
4586shaggy Everything is tight. Got a little mud on the tires and couldn't go above 40 without wobble. Im thinking balancing issue. Gonna rotate the front to the rear and see if it improves. If not then gonna get them all re-rebalanced...
11-04-2013 02:32 PM
Imped Why on Earth would you think sway bar links would be causing your wobble?

Think about this.

As for your track bar bolt, that's a non issue as long as proper torque is achieved.
11-04-2013 11:52 AM
PStov98TJ
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post
Have someone get under vehicle and turn wheel back n forth slowly(engine off), look for movement and flex. Re check all the bolts to being tq'd correctly.
Do this and report back. It's the only way to properly check it. And I like to do it with the engine off and on, turning the tires fast/short turns and slow/full-lock to full-lock turns. Depending upon who is helping you, they may not be able to effectively turn the tires without some help.
11-01-2013 12:04 PM
4586shaggy
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Originally Posted by Oldjeeper69 View Post
How do you like those RC 2.2 shocks.

I'm running them also when I first got them I thought they were wrong because they mount what I call upside down, but the ride is great.
I wouldn't call the ride phenomenal. It's a jeep but they are good enough. I got them for free when I bought the springs.
11-01-2013 11:48 AM
Oldjeeper69 How do you like those RC 2.2 shocks.

I'm running them also when I first got them I thought they were wrong because they mount what I call upside down, but the ride is great.
11-01-2013 09:52 AM
NJO Have someone get under vehicle and turn wheel back n forth slowly(engine off), look for movement and flex. Re check all the bolts to being tq'd correctly.
11-01-2013 08:57 AM
4586shaggy Reboot thread. Random short death wobble now. Will get it on smaller bumps when they are closer together or when it is windy and I go over a bump... steering seems a little "vague" is the best way I can say it... but alignment checks out perfect... any thoughts? For anyone new, I have rough country 2.5" springs with RC 2.2 shocks. All new tie rod ends and new drag link. Metal cloak track bar and jks rear end links. I'm waiting for some money to get new end links in the front, which would be the only thing left I ban think of that may be causing it. I do live in Wisconsin and it just started getting colder so maybe tire pressure can be affecting it? All tires were balanced when alignment was some too. I have 31x10.5x15 tires. Average temp in 40's but it will be getting colder. what would best tire pressure be?
10-19-2013 05:15 PM
4586shaggy Driving smooth as butter now. To it to my buddy's tire shop, used the hawk eye digital alignment machine. Numbers now perfect
10-12-2013 11:37 PM
4586shaggy
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Originally Posted by Gold Miner View Post
Try a rebalance like NJO suggested, that could be it.
Alignment seems to have taken care of it. Will find out tomorrow when I drive her to the pumpkin patch. Was a little too dark to really tell tonight...
10-12-2013 05:35 PM
Gold Miner Try a rebalance like NJO suggested, that could be it.
10-12-2013 05:23 PM
4586shaggy
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Originally Posted by Gold Miner View Post
um.... I dunno, any play in the supplied bolt for the axle bushing end, like 1/8"?
Nope. No play when it was wrench tight, and no play when torqued to 190 lbs... not to disprove anyone's theory...
10-12-2013 04:53 PM
Gold Miner um.... I dunno, any play in the supplied bolt for the axle bushing end, like 1/8"?
10-12-2013 04:48 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by 4586shaggy View Post
Ok. So I just took a test drive after installing the track bar, have to do another alignment, but stuck my head out the window while driving and noticed wobble but did not feel anything on the steering wheel. I'm thinking that the alignment might take care of it. But I will keep you updated. Any ideas or thoughts in the mean time?
Get ur tires rebalanced(dynamic not static) while your at it.
10-12-2013 04:38 PM
4586shaggy Ok. So I just took a test drive after installing the track bar, have to do another alignment, but stuck my head out the window while driving and noticed wobble but did not feel anything on the steering wheel. I'm thinking that the alignment might take care of it. But I will keep you updated. Any ideas or thoughts in the mean time?
10-12-2013 04:26 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by Gold Miner View Post
No, I didn't take pics of the wrong hardware. Are you doubting my claim?
I know what 1/8" of play looks like, so does my mechanic.
I also know the difference between coarse and fine thread.
No im just curious wut the wrong hardware looked like.
10-12-2013 03:55 PM
Gold Miner
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post
Pics of wong hardware sent?
No, I didn't take pics of the wrong hardware. Are you doubting my claim?
I know what 1/8" of play looks like, so does my mechanic.
I also know the difference between coarse and fine thread.
10-12-2013 03:54 PM
Gold Miner
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Originally Posted by VTBalla34 View Post
They got back to me saying if they are torqued properly they wouldn't wiggle.
Total BS. Mine had at least 1/8" of play... not driving it like that. I showed it to my mechanic and he agreed, wrong bolt supplied.
10-12-2013 03:50 PM
NJO Pics of wong hardware sent?
10-12-2013 03:47 PM
Gold Miner No... I'm talking about wrong hardware included, on both ends.
I was more than kind.
Here's my review to them verbatim:
Four out of Five Stars
"As another reviewer mentioned: "The supplied bolt for the axle bushing is too small for the bushing." This was the same case with mine. I was able to purchase a Grade 8 replacement of the proper diameter, but wasn't expecting that halfway through the job.
On the other end of the trackbar (orbital joint) I found that the supplied hex nut was coarse thread while the supplied bolt was fine thread - mismatched. Another trip to the hardware store solved it of course... but these issues turned an easy install into more of a hassle than expected. Especially because I had to weld a nut-stop to the axle bushing replacement nut to make it function properly.
Still, this trackbar is far superior to anything I've seen on the market and I highly recommend it despite the QC hardware issues mentioned. Easily a five star product if I hadn't experienced the hardware problems.
Shipping was fast for me. I received it within a week."
10-12-2013 03:21 PM
VTBalla34
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Originally Posted by Gold Miner View Post
did you read my review on their site and check your hardware?
that's a whole nother bug.... of the QC variety
Are you talking about the missized bolts for the TB? I saw a couple of those on there and emailed them about it. They got back to me saying if they are torqued properly they wouldn't wiggle. And that the bigger volt being recommended might end up seizing up badly if it rusts.
10-12-2013 02:55 PM
Gold Miner did you read my review on their site and check your hardware?
that's a whole nother bug.... of the QC variety
10-12-2013 02:54 PM
Gold Miner
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Originally Posted by 4586shaggy View Post
If you only get the track bar, no instructions... at least not for me
correct
10-12-2013 02:53 PM
Gold Miner
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post
Its provided in with the tj lift kit instructions.
well, I'll be darned.... you'd think that they'd have linked that in their product description, but they didn't. Instead they linked "Instructions here"... when you click on that you get a list of their downloadable instructions for JK, YJ, and TJ but none of them are titled specific to trackbar installation.
I didn't need the instructions per se and I'm a good wrencher. Still... shouldn't have to extract them from another set of instructions.
Also the one size fits all issue for the unknowing consumer. I still think their company needs a few more trips around the block. I'm optimistic that they'll continue to improve and eventually establish a proven track record.
Despite all this, I'm still a happy customer... no complaints with the TB in service.
10-12-2013 02:48 PM
4586shaggy
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post

Its provided in with the tj lift kit instructions.
If you only get the track bar, no instructions... at least not for me
10-12-2013 02:38 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by Gold Miner View Post
Please, please.... provide a link for this. I cannot find these particular directions on their site.
Product Description states: "Tools Required - Ratchet Set, Wrench Set, Lift or... Jack w/ Jack Stands."
Doesn't even mention anything about needing a drill or specific bit sizes.
I had no problem drilling, I'm sure you didn't either... might surprise others. Would be kinda nice to know what size bits to buy... or for someone who's never installed an aftermarket TB.
They have a few bugs to work out, lets face it. Awesome products but they have a few bugs to work out.
Its provided in with the tj lift kit instructions.
10-12-2013 02:31 PM
Gold Miner
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post
...directions for tb bracket are on MCs site.
Please, please.... provide a link for this. I cannot find these particular directions on their site.
Product Description states: "Tools Required - Ratchet Set, Wrench Set, Lift or... Jack w/ Jack Stands."
Doesn't even mention anything about needing a drill or specific bit sizes.
I had no problem drilling, I'm sure you didn't either... might surprise others. Would be kinda nice to know what size bits to buy... or for someone who's never installed an aftermarket TB.
They have a few bugs to work out, lets face it. Awesome products but they have a few bugs to work out.
10-12-2013 02:24 PM
4586shaggy
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Originally Posted by njo View Post

well .......you do bolt it on......directions for tb bracket are on mcs site. I dont think spending 5 minutes to drill out some larger holes is a big deal......still would have to do it for the other tb's as well........and then deal with poor clearance and bumpstopping.
+1
10-12-2013 02:09 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by Gold Miner View Post
... I shouldn't even have to be thinking about this. They market this TB as a "true bolt on"... it is not. Drilling required on both OEM brackets to fit their bolts and needless to say more tinkering if you're only running a 2" lift. They could at least include instructions or installation tips, nothing... and I shouldn't be required to call them.
Some of Metalcloak's products just aren't quite ready for prime time. I think this is obvious. Maybe they hit the ground running a little fast with this company. I'm happy with it but in hindsight maybe I should have just held onto the JKS.
Now leaning heavily toward Currie for my future TJ related suspension investments.
Well .......you do BOLT it on......directions for tb bracket are on MCs site. I dont think spending 5 minutes to drill out some larger holes is a big deal......still would have to do it for the other TB's as well........and then deal with poor clearance and bumpstopping.
10-12-2013 01:43 PM
Gold Miner ... I shouldn't even have to be thinking about this. They market this TB as a "true bolt on"... it is not. Drilling required on both OEM brackets to fit their bolts and needless to say more tinkering if you're only running a 2" lift. They could at least include instructions or installation tips, nothing... and I shouldn't be required to call them.
Some of Metalcloak's products just aren't quite ready for prime time. I think this is obvious. Maybe they hit the ground running a little fast with this company. I'm happy with it but in hindsight maybe I should have just held onto the JKS.
Now leaning heavily toward Currie for my future TJ related suspension investments. I'll give Metalcloak's company a few years to grow up.
10-12-2013 01:38 PM
Gold Miner
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Originally Posted by NJO View Post
Its solid.....but do the threads end at the drill depth?
no idea but I imagine so since the curvature of the bar starts shortly thereafter
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