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03-27-2007 02:26 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by hazmat View Post
the tru trac is the new carrier and they are 350$ best case scenario. I thought it was high but seeing how you broke it down it's seems about right .
HA, you are absolutely right, I don't know what the hell I was thinking last night when I said that about the carrier. However I still think that your quote was pretty high for what you are having done.
03-27-2007 11:01 AM
hazmat the tru trac is the new carrier and they are 350$ best case scenario. I thought it was high but seeing how you broke it down it's seems about right .
03-27-2007 02:28 AM
1BLKJP Yeah, that sounds a little high bro. You need a new carrier which is about 70 bucks. Gears and bearings about 250. Locker is what like 450? Then an install price of like 300 is pretty going rate right now. Assuming you are talking about the AUSA outer seals (Which I don't really think those are necessary as the inner seal should be just fine. So you are talking in the neighborhood of like 1100 for the front and then tax.
03-27-2007 02:10 AM
hazmat going from 3.07's to 4.10's w/ a tru trac install and alloy's axle seals 1450$ That's for my front d30 alone .
03-24-2007 11:51 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by GoodLife View Post
I was quoted about $600 an axle for parts and labor about 2 weeks ago. That was enough to make me choke.
For all parts and labor to regear both axles without talking lockers, that's a typical price. My first re-gear was just over that amount and my last re-gear was just under that... after some negotiating.

So far as Truetracs go, I ran front and rear Truetracs for 4-5 years and then converted to lockers. Truetracs are superb on the street and superb on flat muddy/icy/snow-covered trails. But when the trail gets tough enough that a tire is lifted, even applying the brakes doesn't help enough to really hook them up. I got very good at that technique and taught a few others how to do it but, really, it still doesn't help all that much when a tire is up in the air on a Truetrac-equipped axle.

If you need 4wd to drive during the winter, I wouldn't recommend an automatic locker (Detroit Locker, Aussie, No-Slip, EZ-Locker, Lockrite) as they can really make your handling difficult/unpredictable when the streets are slick and you're in 4x4. In those conditions, a selectable locker like an ARB Air Locker would be a great choice.
03-24-2007 09:24 AM
sound hound Here in the upper midwest, there is a shop called Burnsville Off Road, they are very reputable (Done some pretty incredible swaps, and mods Jeeps for a local dealer and fall under Mpars warranty) and have recommended 4:56 for my TJ w/33's.
He will do it for $1500 complete, and says it will feel like an added 25hp out of the box.
03-23-2007 10:03 PM
GoodLife I was quoted about $600 an axle for parts and labor about 2 weeks ago. That was enough to make me choke.
03-23-2007 09:30 PM
rich1014 33's and 4.56 gears here. Detroit Locker on my D44; Detroit TruTrac on my D30.
03-10-2007 11:44 AM
hazmat Price of real estate in north jersey / ny area is insane ! Mecanics gotta pay his rent !
03-09-2007 04:41 PM
Moab Man
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
most of our DC dealers will have about 3500 $ for 4.56 gears and two true tracs. i made a deal with a jeep dealer. he will install me all that for 2300 $. and he can use pictures of my car for advertising.
Way to work it. That is a good deal.
03-09-2007 04:40 PM
Moab Man
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Originally Posted by ChilliRed View Post
Im just wondering... how do yall find such good prices for rear gearing install?? Do you know the people in the shops or something? I've asked around (in north jersey) and all the shops want in the ball park of $1000 for one axle is i supply the overhaul kit and the locker
That is called rape. No regearing job is worth more than $400 tops and that is the extreme.
03-09-2007 12:25 PM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Wow, how about just buying over here and having them shipped?
the problem is that i´m stoill on warranty. that´s why i will buy all that stuff here in germany and a jeep dealer will install it.

most of our DC dealers will have about 3500 $ for 4.56 gears and two true tracs. i made a deal with a jeep dealer. he will install me all that for 2300 $. and he can use pictures of my car for advertising.
03-09-2007 11:41 AM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
the ARB airlocker costs about 1300 $ over here + compressor...
Wow, how about just buying over here and having them shipped?



And Chili, that's pretty messed up for a gearing job to cost a grand with you supplying the gears and bearings. I agree with Moab Man's assessment at least over here on our coast. Anywhere from 250 to 350 per axle plus gears.
03-09-2007 09:05 AM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by compshooter View Post
Just my two cents (or Euro equivilent) worth, If you are going to have to spend 600 on a tru-trac, then I would recommend you get an ARB.
the ARB airlocker costs about 1300 $ over here + compressor...
03-09-2007 07:44 AM
jeeperman
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Originally Posted by ChilliRed View Post
Im just wondering... how do yall find such good prices for rear gearing install?? Do you know the people in the shops or something? I've asked around (in north jersey) and all the shops want in the ball park of $1000 for one axle is i supply the overhaul kit and the locker
That is really steep... When I had my YJ regeared (5 years ago) I paid $1100 for both axles with them supplying everything needed for the regear.
03-09-2007 07:36 AM
ChilliRed Im just wondering... how do yall find such good prices for rear gearing install?? Do you know the people in the shops or something? I've asked around (in north jersey) and all the shops want in the ball park of $1000 for one axle is i supply the overhaul kit and the locker
03-09-2007 07:29 AM
erickpl IF you have the funds, go with selectable lockers like the ARB or OX. When not engaged, you won't even know they are there. When engaged, you will. You won't have to worry about on-road characteristics because it will drive just like it does now.
03-09-2007 07:29 AM
compshooter
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post

what does a true trac cost over there? here it costs about 600 $. thats very expensive i think...
Just my two cents (or Euro equivilent) worth, If you are going to have to spend 600 on a tru-trac, then I would recommend you get an ARB. Full locker when needed, open differential at the flip of a switch. As someone said about the driving conditions (black ice, snow), this may be a better choice for roughly the same amount of money. I have ran Powertrax No-Slips, Lock-rights, a Detroit Locker, and ARB's. ARB's are well worth the money and are my preferred locker, especial for a daily driver in snow/ice country.
03-09-2007 05:08 AM
4Jeepn Having had several different lockers, my pick is the ARB air locker. You have control over it being on or off when you want. don't have to worry about funky on road pulling or clicking. You do however need to make sure the shop that installs it knows what they are doing, as most ARB issues can be traced back to a bad install job.
03-09-2007 12:54 AM
Moab Man
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
@rich1014:
i was told that a detroit locker isn´t good in a daily driver that is used on streets for the most time.


what would regearing to 4.56 and two true tracs cost in the US including installation?
just want to compare the prices.
The Detroit is fine for driving if you know that it is there. However, it can be tricky if you are not paying attention in the winter. For that reason I do not allow anyone to drive my Jeep in the winter.

Can't tell you a price for the True Tracs but the regearing is generally $250-$350 per axle.

Gears for front and rear plus install kit about $500-$600.
03-09-2007 12:45 AM
Moab Man The True Tracs are going to be much more civil than a locker since they are a limited slip. Thinking about it this might be a real good match. Here is my preference list and let Euro's be the decider.

Front: True Trac Rear: Ox Locker (saw this setup on a daily driver as was very impressed)
or
Front & Rear: True Tracs

With the wet/damp conditions of Germany when off-roading the True Tracs would have enough spin to properly hook up and would do you well.

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so why don´t we talk in german...?
Good question. Mostly because of my pure anger with all the illegals sneaking across our unsecured borders and don't bother to learn the language and then expect us to accomodate them. If they don't want to assimilate through legal immigration in to this melting pot then get out.

Now, when I was in Germany, even though the military sent me there (for some of it), I spoke German as much as I could and as often as I could. I was a guest in your great country and believed I should use the language out of respect. I loved the people there and felt truly welcome, at home, and safe for my family (didn't live on the base) when I was away.

However, now that I am back home I speak English, or American as the English would correctlytell me. LOL!

Nicolas-Eric I love your country and have always thought of it as my home away from home. I have close German friends there that we/I consider family and not friends.
03-08-2007 11:11 PM
nicolas-eric @rich1014:
i was told that a detroit locker isn´t good in a daily driver that is used on streets for the most time.


what would regearing to 4.56 and two true tracs cost in the US including installation?
just want to compare the prices.
03-08-2007 10:47 PM
rich1014 I've got a trutrac in front - regular detroit locker in rear and I'm pretty happy. Not a daily driver though - just for fun.
03-08-2007 08:36 PM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by 04moneypit View Post
$400 for the front, same for the rear, you can find them a little cheaper sometimes too.
ok, then i will buy them in the US.
03-08-2007 07:36 PM
04moneypit $400 for the front, same for the rear, you can find them a little cheaper sometimes too.
03-08-2007 07:18 PM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by 04moneypit View Post
If you get one wheel in the air, tap on the brake with your left foot and forward motion should return (yes, you have to you use the brakes), it's a small price to pay.
thats ok for me. i just asked because the trac loc i now have doesn´t work like this. with a wheel in the air tapping the brakes doesn´t bring me forward again.

what does a true trac cost over there? here it costs about 600 $. thats very expensive i think...
03-08-2007 07:16 PM
04moneypit If you get one wheel in the air, tap on the brake with your left foot and forward motion should return (yes, you have to you use the brakes), it's a small price to pay.
03-08-2007 07:12 PM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by 04moneypit View Post
I run trutracs front and rear, I have been very happy with on road as well as off road handling, and have the same D44/D30 combo.
no problems with on road handling. sounds good. thats what i want.

how is it off the road when one wheel has no contact to the ground? does the true trac still work then? or do you have to use the brake and gas pedals at the same time to make it working?

is the TJ with two true tracs as good as a TJ with one arb locker? a friend has one on the rear.
i think it´s better to install two true tracs than one arb locker. am i right?

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Originally Posted by Moab Man View Post
Having lived the greater portion of my adult life in Germany
so why don´t we talk in german...?
03-08-2007 07:03 PM
04moneypit I run trutracs front and rear, I have been very happy with on road as well as off road handling, and have the same D44/D30 combo.
03-08-2007 06:56 PM
nicolas-eric i have a rear D44. all european TJs come with it since 2003.

but the true trac is differnt than other 100% auto lockers.
http://www.eatonperformance.com/diff...-Truetrac.html

many people over here have true tracs because of their good handling on the road.
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