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06-03-2010 08:18 PM
Ageless Stranger
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Originally Posted by stevens243 View Post
Yes you will!

Just take you longer and the wife will like the repair parts bill less!
06-03-2010 07:28 PM
stevens243
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Originally Posted by Ageless Stranger View Post
I agree, what with discretion being far the better part of valor, and all. You won't break what you overbuild.
Yes you will!

Just take you longer and the wife will like the repair parts bill less!
06-03-2010 06:40 PM
Ageless Stranger
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
Aye. I figure it's good insurance. It may be overkill, but I'd rather go that route than skimp on it.
I agree, what with discretion being far the better part of valor, and all. You won't break what you overbuild.
06-03-2010 10:00 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by Ageless Stranger View Post
So you are going to get the Super 88. Cool.
Aye. I figure it's good insurance. It may be overkill, but I'd rather go that route than skimp on it.
06-03-2010 02:42 AM
Ageless Stranger So you are going to get the Super 88. Cool.
06-03-2010 02:40 AM
cavediverjc Running the stock 3.73 gears for now until I get a replacement for the front D30. I'm looking at the Currie D44 front with 5.13's as a replacement. Same gears would go for the rear (obviously). I'll be ordering Superior's Super 88 kit sometime this coming winter, so running the 37's will be NO PROBLEM.
06-03-2010 02:36 AM
AzTJ Anything will work behind a 231, just need to the right gears... you got those right?
06-03-2010 02:32 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by AzTJ View Post
There are scarier things afoot... now is that axle built yet or what?
Still waiting to get settled in to my new place. She's still sitting on my back porch in all of her black painted glory waiting to be welded upon by someone with enough knowledge and welding experience to make her work behind my NP231..........
06-03-2010 02:24 AM
AzTJ There are scarier things afoot... now is that axle built yet or what?
06-03-2010 02:15 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
ahhhhh crap.
Scary, huh?
06-03-2010 02:14 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by bigred94jeep View Post
thanx for the link cave
No worries.
06-02-2010 11:48 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
congrats on your promotion!!


ahhhhh crap.
06-02-2010 11:24 PM
bigred94jeep
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
Here's a link to the mounts I'm using. Hope this helps. It seems like a great deal.......and they only charge $5 for shipping!!

kNOw Where 2Jeep Complete Ford 8.8 Install Kit For Wrangler TJ

thanx for the link cave
06-02-2010 07:22 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
I "CAN" but no welder.

pm Andy...mite know a fella or two.
We've talked about it. He's given me some good information. Hoping something will pan out.....
06-02-2010 07:20 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
Why ain't they welded up yet?
It's weird seeing your username in bold black in the Currently Active Users section......congrats on your promotion!!
06-02-2010 07:18 PM
distortedtj I "CAN" but no welder.

pm Andy...mite know a fella or two.
06-02-2010 07:10 PM
cavediverjc Lol......I'm waiting to get settled in to my place in Salina. I start moving this Friday.

Plus I no longer have access to a welder, so I'm going to have to pay someone to weld them up. Now all I have to do is find SOMEONE who can do it.......
06-02-2010 06:18 PM
distortedtj Why ain't they welded up yet?
06-02-2010 06:07 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by bigred94jeep View Post
thats great - who you using for the mounts? just for my own future reference.
thanks
Here's a link to the mounts I'm using. Hope this helps. It seems like a great deal.......and they only charge $5 for shipping!!

kNOw Where 2Jeep Complete Ford 8.8 Install Kit For Wrangler TJ
06-02-2010 04:08 PM
bigred94jeep [QUOTE=MR.CLIFFORD;640428]8.8s with drum brakes have 27 spline axle shafts. The 8.8s with disc brakes have 31 spline.

They are popular in the jeep crowd because they are similar width and the same bolt pattern. They are capable of holding up to 37" tires with little problems. And they aren't a Dana 35.[/QUOTE



the blanket statement that drum brakes are automatically have a 27 spline axle is NOT correct. I know this because I pulled my spare axle shafts, for my 31 spline disc brake 8.8, from a drum brake ford explorer - i think it was a 96. I am not sure on the exact years (94-2001?) 8.8 disc and drum brake axle shafts are the same for these years
06-02-2010 03:54 PM
bigred94jeep
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
Thanks!
I only painted a light coat of paint on the housing to ward off rust. It'll be wire-wheeled when the mounts get welded to the housing. And I'm planning on welding the tubes to the centersection. I've heard that's a common thing to do when setting up these 8.8's. The company I'm ordering my mounts from includes the parking brake cables with the kit, along with a SOLID diff cover. Seems pretty complete.


thats great - who you using for the mounts? just for my own future reference.
thanks
06-01-2010 06:25 PM
Ageless Stranger
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
8.8s with drum brakes have 27 spline axle shafts. The 8.8s with disc brakes have 31 spline.

They are popular in the jeep crowd because they are similar width and the same bolt pattern. They are capable of holding up to 37" tires with little problems. And they aren't a Dana 35.
This was where he was headed on his own. After we were talking about it again last night, (we had a conversation last week about this) he started doing some research online and found out it was 31 spline. He asked how many splines were on a D35 to which I responded "hell I don't know, I don't even have one of those." Thanks so much for the input. I'll share this info with him.
06-01-2010 10:30 AM
stevens243 Said in a different way from above, you get a D44 (strength wise) axle for cheap.

Change the brackets out and voila. Big upgrade over a D35C.
06-01-2010 10:16 AM
cavediverjc Later model 8.8's have disc brakes, so it's an instant brake upgrade. Granted, they're rear brakes and only account for roughly 20% of your braking power, but disc brake maintenance is much easier/quicker than drum brake maintenance (in my opinion).

A lot of 8.8 rearends that came out of a V8 Explorer (like mine) have a posi-locker already installed.

The V8 rearends have beefier 31 spline axleshafts as opposed to the wimpy D35 axleshafts.

Only 1" shorter in overall length to that of a stock D35.

Same bolt pattern as the TJ so your wheels will bolt right up without modification or having to buy new wheels.

Tons of aftermarket support.

Even stock, they can take some serious abuse. There are already two posts on this thread where the poster has mentioned running 37" tires on stock axles. Superior Axle has a Super 88 kit that can be installed in a couple of hours in your driveway that has chromoly axles, c-clip eliminators, etc. and it's had rave reviews by a number of online magazines/JP magazine, etc.

Oh yeah, and they're CHEAP. I only paid $250 for a low mileage V8 Explorer rearend with disc brakes and a locker.

Since my goal is to be running 37" tires sometime in the semi-near future, the 8.8 is the right rear for me. If I was going to be running anything bigger, then a D60 would probably find its way under my Jeep.

Hope this helps. I too have a few derby friends (my redneck hillbilly buddies), and they just weld the spider gears in their rears together and torture their derby cars. I doubt even a D60 would last long with the abuse derby cars are subject to........
06-01-2010 10:12 AM
MR.CLIFFORD 8.8s with drum brakes have 27 spline axle shafts. The 8.8s with disc brakes have 31 spline.

They are popular in the jeep crowd because they are similar width and the same bolt pattern. They are capable of holding up to 37" tires with little problems. And they aren't a Dana 35.
06-01-2010 06:26 AM
Ageless Stranger Cavediver. Could you point me in the right direction to learn, or tell me outright why the Ford 8.8 is so popular in the Jeep crowd? I have a friend who derbys and dosen't understand why Jeep guys would want them. He said that in his experience they are weak. He also said that he only has experience with 8.8s that have drum brakes. So that could be the difference between new and old 8.8s. Please enlighten us.
06-01-2010 12:58 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
Tuttle is fine with me. Still never been there.

You want shattered spiders, snapped shaft or just grenade the whole housing?
I want to DESTROY the entire D35. All while getting it on video.

I've got a winch. If I have to, I'll winch/drag the Jeep onto the trailer. That is, unless I can find someone who wants to buy a D35 with 3.73's. Nobody wants D35's though.
06-01-2010 12:54 AM
distortedtj Tuttle is fine with me. Still never been there.

You want shattered spiders, snapped shaft or just grenade the whole housing?
06-01-2010 12:51 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
It's easy...I've busted 4 D35's now.

Lets do it. I'll break mine too.

Wait..you have a tow rig.
I have ACCESS to a tow rig. My daily driver is a Ford Ranger. Don't think she'll pull the Jeep on a trailer. But I'm all for killing the D35. Better do it someplace closer than Disney though. Maybe we can kill it over at Tuttle.....
06-01-2010 12:47 AM
distortedtj
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
I want to take the Jeep out before I install the 8.8 and DESTROY the D35. Just for fun. It would be interesting to see how much carnage I can put the D35 through before she gives up the ghost.
It's easy...I've busted 4 D35's now.

Lets do it. I'll break mine too.

Wait..you have a tow rig.
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