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06-29-2012 05:08 PM
GoldenSahara00 I can't read these hieroglyphics this thread is so old.
06-29-2012 04:48 PM
Donkerz 2003 Sport 4.0L on 31" and 3.73 gears. 18mpg
06-29-2012 04:24 PM
Volta009 Good idea
06-29-2012 08:57 AM
BurlySoldier I suggest filling up at the same gas station on the same pump. Different gas pumps click off and are "full" at different times. I had one last week that clicked off and I then proceeded to pul over 3 more gallons in only with a half squeeze on the handle.
06-28-2012 09:10 PM
Volta009 No I dont read those time stamps lol
06-28-2012 09:09 PM
Volta009 For instance

I fill up a little over full mark. drive 260 miles. About half way in red mark on E. fill back up. About 14.6 gallons. 260/14.6=17.808mpg

Btw 2002 sport 4.0 5 speed 3.07 gears and 235/75-15r. Its also perfectly maintained from previous owner and my self. With 135000 miles
06-28-2012 09:05 PM
4Jeepn
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Originally Posted by Volta009 View Post
Ok is every one calculating there mpg correctly? Ok heres how.
Fill all the way up.
Reset trip on odometer
Drive (as empty as you can)
Fill all the way up again
Take miles on trip divided by how much it took to fill it all the way up again.

I think every one is dividing by 19 when almost nobody can fit 19 gallons in the tank
you know this is from 2007 right?
06-28-2012 09:02 PM
Volta009 Ok is every one calculating there mpg correctly? Ok heres how.
Fill all the way up.
Reset trip on odometer
Drive (as empty as you can)
Fill all the way up again
Take miles on trip divided by how much it took to fill it all the way up again.

I think every one is dividing by 19 when almost nobody can fit 19 gallons in the tank
04-02-2007 12:43 PM
mrbigjeep nice post blu. you made me feel better.
04-02-2007 11:35 AM
bluvikng
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
However, I usually avoid slipping my clutch, that's not a good thing. Which is why I REALLY want to upgrade to an automatic asap.

Just a thought Jerry, wouldn't a Tera-Low conversion, or a Stak, or AtlasII, be a better alternative, to give you a better crawl ratio, then the stock 2.73:1. I just can't give up the contol, of the stick, vs. auto. Having the right crawl ratio's, allows one to just idle up anything, without the use of the clutch, or skinny pedal. I know that a lot of people prefer the auto, and it's simplicity, but I sure do like to be able to dump the clutch, and bring the front end, back to the ground, if I get tipsy. That is hard to do, with a auto. The low on my Stak, gives me a ratio of 5.44:1, and mid range of 3.44:1, and with my 4:56 gears in the pumkins, there is not much need for feathering the clutch. Just seems that might aid your low end crawling, without the smoke............
04-02-2007 10:25 AM
binaryking Yeah I would find another shop. 4.56 gears with 33's are more efficient and shouldn't cut into your mpg's like he said it would. Plus, if you're running 33's, is mpg really your main concern? Maybe you would be better off in a Honda. jk jk

Heck I run 33's and I'm gonna go to 4.88's!
03-31-2007 09:38 PM
mrbigjeep haha...if i had 33's there is no way i'd get 4.10's. the 06 and earlier rubis had 4.10's with only 31's.
03-31-2007 10:38 AM
GoodLife I was in Tampa this week so I stopped at a 4wheelparts.com store to burn some time. I ask the guy there the same question and got a similar response. With 32s keep your stock gears. With 33s go to 4.10 because 4.56 is really for 35s and up. That just doesn't make sense to me since the gear charts show something different.

Oh well, I order some 32s and am going to see how they do with my 3.73, but I'm already planning to re-gear 4.56.
03-28-2007 10:35 PM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by Texapple View Post
let me help you spend your money....get a STaK
even better. doesn't that thing have two sticks? i forgot you had that beast.
03-28-2007 10:31 PM
Texapple
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Originally Posted by bigjeep View Post
cool. well now i have an excuse to stay on the clutch

maybe i should get tera low

let me help you spend your money....get a STaK
03-28-2007 10:28 PM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by RWsJeep View Post
As long as your crawl ratio is good, it isn't a problem....
cool. well now i have an excuse to stay on the clutch

maybe i should get tera low
03-28-2007 01:22 PM
RWsJeep
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
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Wow, the first time I went up Doran I made it in like 2 minutes. Those days are long gone, it's really dug out now.
Some days are like that :o
I spent two weekends out there recently (one removing graffiti and one wheeling) - Saw plenty of people hung up in that stretch (mostly yota's )

Those canyons really do change from year to year.

OOPS - And to keep this on topic .... To the OP:

I have 4.88s on 33s. Don't have any idea what kind of gas milage I'm getting - This combo works great for me. While my TJ is not a daily driver, It drives great on or off road. I will be going to an atlas xfer case when I go to 35s though (love to crawl).
03-28-2007 11:56 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by bigjeep View Post
so i'm not the only one that stays on the clutch??? i didn't know it could take that much abuse
It can, in fact my clutch had 167,000 miles on it when I replaced in last month and it still looked and functioned fine. I just figured it was time. However, I usually avoid slipping my clutch, that's not a good thing. Which is why I REALLY want to upgrade to an automatic asap.

And RWsJeep, yes that was right after the Gatekeeper at the opening of Doran Canyon. I don't normally smoke my clutch like that but of the 4-5 times I've gone up Doran, I nearly couldn't find the right line that day so I had a hell of a time making it up past that particular part.

Wow, the first time I went up Doran I made it in like 2 minutes. Those days are long gone, it's really dug out now.
03-28-2007 11:14 AM
RWsJeep
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Originally Posted by bigjeep View Post
so i'm not the only one that stays on the clutch??? i didn't know it could take that much abuse
Not a good habit. One of the 1st things learned by those new to rocks is to stay away from that clutch. As long as your crawl ratio is good, it isn't a problem....

Not making any judgements on the posted photo (wasn't there).
Was that taken at the gatekeeper in Calico?

Robert
03-27-2007 06:51 AM
Odhinn 3.73's here, Had a 32 tooth speedo gear installed yesterday (being lazy) and Need some time to figure the true mileage.

Just to add I ran 4.56's in my Cherokee and it was a world of difference offroad.
03-25-2007 02:46 PM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
It is.
so i'm not the only one that stays on the clutch??? i didn't know it could take that much abuse
03-25-2007 01:46 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by bigjeep View Post
jerry...is that pic really showing clutch smoke???
It is.
03-24-2007 08:59 PM
mrbigjeep jerry...is that pic really showing clutch smoke???
03-23-2007 07:04 PM
Triple88a
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Ahhhh, there's nothing like burning clutch smell on the trail.
I like the smell of rubber better though since clutch smell makes me sad while rubber smell+smoke makes me happy

Yep i barely stay on the clutch.. whenever i cant go above 5 mph i am in 4lo.
03-23-2007 04:39 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by bigjeep View Post
i do indeed have a problem with that. sometimes the trail won't call for 4lo so i'll be going to fast...so i hold the clutch or just use 4lo or neutral...try not to stay on the clutch though...it will start to burn
If 4Hi is forcing you to go too fast for trail conditions, then those same trail conditions are trying to tell you that you should be in 4Lo. Period.
03-23-2007 04:19 PM
mr4x4 hes full of ti I'm running 4.56 with 33's now and I'm getting between 14 and 16 mpg that's with a three speed auto
I have plenty of power going up hills

plus when I go to a 35 in. tire I don't have to regear
03-23-2007 03:47 PM
1BLKJP That sir is exactly what I was talking about. I don't know why, but I love that smell on the trail. You smell clutch and you know someone's workin hard.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Smoke? What's that you say? Smoke from the clutch?

03-23-2007 03:40 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Ahhhh, there's nothing like burning clutch smell on the trail.
Smoke? What's that you say? Smoke from the clutch?

03-23-2007 03:23 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by bigjeep View Post
i do indeed have a problem with that. sometimes the trail won't call for 4lo so i'll be going to fast...so i hold the clutch or just use 4lo or neutral...try not to stay on the clutch though...it will start to burn
Ahhhh, there's nothing like burning clutch smell on the trail.
03-23-2007 08:29 AM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
sweet 6th to 5th too bad mine is only a 5 speed lol maybe i should try to see if i have 6th jk lol

I ment when you take off or when you are on a trail.. you cant speed the rig too fast so you will either have to hold the clutch or it will die out. .. unless ur in 4lo..
i do indeed have a problem with that. sometimes the trail won't call for 4lo so i'll be going to fast...so i hold the clutch or just use 4lo or neutral...try not to stay on the clutch though...it will start to burn
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