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07-17-2010 04:20 PM
Warthog
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Not exactly. Things are very murky with car dealers. You would think that's what "invoice" means, but not in the automotive world. Dealer's still make money at invoice, that's why it's possible to get below invoice.
My borther-in-law is Director of truck sales for Future Ford. I know it's not chysler but i imagine alot of their "tricks of the trade" are the same. If it's a "true invoice" than that "IS" what the dealership paid for the car. An "invoice" is their actual receipt for purchase. But that's not to say they're above "giveing" you a higher number and calling it "invoice". But there are programs and "4th of July/ End of the year" sales where they may loose money on an individuale sale, but if they hit a target number of sales the bonus from the manufacturer more than make up for it.
07-16-2010 01:29 PM
zerokoo149 Seems pretty decent to me, although my opinion is based on North-East pricing.
07-16-2010 12:25 PM
tmclaugh
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Originally Posted by tmclaugh View Post
This is my first post and I'm looking at getting a Jeep Wrangler Mountain Edition.

I learned about the discount from these forums and was wondering if the dealership will be reimbursed from the factory. This would allow me to further work down the price starting from 1% below invoice.

Some would say this is getting greedy, but dealerships have gotten one over on me too many times... my turn.

Any help would be great.

Thanks again InfernoGirl!
Talked to a dealership and they had no issues with this discount and my military discount but they gave me absolutely no wiggle room to work with. So I tried, and now I'll have to see if I can make the finances work.

Total price with out taxes is 29470 for
Jeep Wrangler Mountain Edition with:
Tow Group
Automatic
Limited Slip Differential
Freedom Top

In Your Opinion is this Decent?
07-15-2010 08:57 AM
InfernoGirl ^^^^ Yes. Dealer holdback, and Idk what else... If they told us all their secrets, no one would ever buy a car from them....
07-15-2010 06:03 AM
daggo66 Not exactly. Things are very murky with car dealers. You would think that's what "invoice" means, but not in the automotive world. Dealer's still make money at invoice, that's why it's possible to get below invoice.
07-15-2010 01:36 AM
Warthog
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Originally Posted by silvrevo View Post
If you cant get at least 1% below invoice you either live in BFE , or dont know how to deal.

Plus $25 is a small fee to belong to a great group like Tread lightly.
You do know what "invoice" means right?
That's not the same as "MSRP"
"Invoice" is what the dealer actually paid Chrysler for that vehicle...
So 1% below invoice means the dealer lost roughly $200-$300 dollars.

I imagine how it works; is you give the dealer your Tread Lightly #, the dealer sends that off to Chrysler and gets reimbersed for their loss. Then Chrysler gets to write that off as either a loss or Non-profit donation for tax purposes...
07-14-2010 04:52 PM
USNJeep'n
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Originally Posted by CapptainObvious View Post
wish i knew about this when i bought mine...
Me to...I dont even want to say how much we paid for our 2010 Rubi...but I got my Mopar Bucks.

Windy
07-14-2010 04:16 PM
t.j.k. Even if you can negotiate the price down to 1% below, the $25 would still be worth it just to not have to hassle.
07-14-2010 02:45 PM
Blaine23 I joined Tread Lightly specifically because of this deal, knowing I'd be buying a Jeep in 3 months. I also read about here, so thanks.

Here was my experience in getting the discount. I knew I wanted a Mountain Edition and I knew there weren't that many around. Last month, in my town, there were exactly two.

Dealership #1: Is very excited to sell me the Jeep. We work out financing deal, I get the trade-in $$$ I want and then I mention the Tread Lightly discount. Dealer's face falls. Tells me he can't get approval from Chrysler Affiliates on a Sunday, so we'll have to do it on Monday. On Monday, no one calls me. I call them, they tell me they've sold the Jeep to someone else.

Dealership #2: Similar scenario, but this time I mention the discount right off the bat. Salesman says "great, we do that all the time if you have you're control #." I tell him I do, and then we start negotiating financing and trade-in $$$. They try unsuccessfully to push me into a crapper rate. I refuse. They try to get me to take less than the last dealer on trade in. I refuse. Finally, they relent. He brings out a piece of paper with the STICKER price of the Jeep to calculate payments.

Oh hell no. I remind him of the %1 over Invoice deal he already agreed to. He sheepishly goes back to the sales manager. At this point, I've been at the dealership for almost 3 hours. Finally the sales manager comes over. Here's what he says:

"You wanna buy a pickup truck?"
"Uh. No. I'm here to buy a Jeep. That Jeep. The one we've been talking about for hours."
"Well, I'll sell you a pickup for %1 over invoice. I won't sell that Jeep. It's a special edition. I want sticker for it."
"I don't think it works that way. The program clearly states you are either participating or not. Not that you'll participate when it suits you."
"I don't care what it says."

So I left. Next day called Chrysler who apologized profusely and admitted it isn't supposed to work that way. It's not meant to be ignored at will when the sales team wants leverage. I lodged a complaint (that I'm sure amounted to nothing).

The next day I found a 3rd dealership 2 hours away in a much smaller town. I called, told them on the front end about the Affiliate pricing. They were great. We negotiated a better deal than either dealer 1 or 2 gave me. And I selling the car on CL and paying cash down.

The best part? Driving through Dealer #2's lot in my new Jeep, promising them I'll never ever use their Service or Parts dept and laughing at the unsold Mountain edition still in their lot.

So my advice: The %1 over Invoice is a great deal. Assuming you can find a great dealership that plays by the rules.
07-14-2010 11:29 AM
JIMBOX Thats why I got my '08 JK "unlimited" Rubi for $30K+T/L

MKT crash/sales down/Calif. on the way to Welfare !!

JIMBO
07-14-2010 11:28 AM
RaiderRUBICON
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Originally Posted by zerokoo149 View Post
I wanted to bump this thread as I just bought my Wrangler this past weekend using my Tread Lightly discount, and wanted to share my experiences. I registered on treadlightly.org a few weeks ago, and I received my welcome package about a week later.

When I got to the dealership, I simply let them know that I had an "AR" number, which they knew to be a number for friends and family pricing. They instantly gave me the prefered pricing which is 1% under invoice with no arguments. When they had questions about what Tread Lightly was, I simply referred them to the http://www.chrysleraffiliates.com website.

In my area, the dealerships don't seem to be willing to negotiate much this time of year, and I wasn't able to come anywhere close to invoice. As soon as I started telling them that I had that "AR" number, their tune changed and I was getting the prefered pricing right away.
Well if thats how it works,then putting 25 dollars down to buy a Jeep at 1% under invoice AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

I was not aware of "tread lightly" That is really a great program. Again you pay 25 dollars and you get the Jeep at 1% under invoice. Even a Rubicon,thats excellent.

This is good to know,nice job guys
07-14-2010 10:55 AM
jk'n I've watched prices of jeep over the years and have not seen too many times when they were willing to deal the price down. It usually happens when they produce too many in anticipation of market conditions based on sales overall. It happened when the market crashed. People got some good deals on jeeps. Still not the kind of percentage price break that passenger cars were selling at though. Chrysler knows that they have a target audience and they price accordingly.
07-14-2010 10:46 AM
CapptainObvious ^^Not sure if that's a fair statement considering how popular wranglers are and how every season is a jeep season. Many dealers aren't willing to take too much off the price because people are paying MSRP
07-14-2010 10:07 AM
silvrevo If you cant get at least 1% below invoice you either live in BFE , or dont know how to deal.

Plus $25 is a small fee to belong to a great group like Tread lightly.
07-14-2010 07:53 AM
zerokoo149 According to my salesperson, Chrysler does reimburse some of the cost of the 1% below when the buyer is a member of the Chrysler Affiliate program. Ie. Treadlightly, employee, or immediate family member of employee.
07-13-2010 09:35 PM
tmclaugh
Hey all!

This is my first post and I'm looking at getting a Jeep Wrangler Mountain Edition.

I learned about the discount from these forums and was wondering if the dealership will be reimbursed from the factory. This would allow me to further work down the price starting from 1% below invoice.

Some would say this is getting greedy, but dealerships have gotten one over on me too many times... my turn.

Any help would be great.

Thanks again InfernoGirl!
07-13-2010 09:18 PM
InfernoGirl You are most welcome! I love sharing a great deal! I joined due to another member posting about the GoodYear tire rebate when I was tire shopping, so I was just paying it forward, as it were..
07-13-2010 06:56 PM
zerokoo149 The only reason I knew about it was because of you infernogirl, so thanks a bunch.
07-13-2010 05:44 PM
InfernoGirl
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Originally Posted by Kate View Post
Thank you zero for posting your experience!
x2 Thanks for letting us know how it worked for you. I have been recommending it since I got my letter about it, but since I'm not in a position to be in the market for a new Jeep myself, it's good to know it was easy to do!
07-13-2010 02:54 PM
Kate Thank you zero for posting your experience!
07-13-2010 02:26 PM
CapptainObvious wish i knew about this when i bought mine...
07-13-2010 02:11 PM
zerokoo149 I wanted to bump this thread as I just bought my Wrangler this past weekend using my Tread Lightly discount, and wanted to share my experiences. I registered on treadlightly.org a few weeks ago, and I received my welcome package about a week later.

When I got to the dealership, I simply let them know that I had an "AR" number, which they knew to be a number for friends and family pricing. They instantly gave me the prefered pricing which is 1% under invoice with no arguments. When they had questions about what Tread Lightly was, I simply referred them to the http://www.chrysleraffiliates.com website.

In my area, the dealerships don't seem to be willing to negotiate much this time of year, and I wasn't able to come anywhere close to invoice. As soon as I started telling them that I had that "AR" number, their tune changed and I was getting the prefered pricing right away.
06-14-2010 01:44 PM
InfernoGirl This is the email I got from Treadlightly....
Dear valued Tread Lightly! member:



We are excited to announce that Chrysler has recently expanded its partnership with Tread Lightly! and has now included Tread Lightly! as part of its Affiliate Rewards program.

Now all Tread Lightly! Individual Members can take advantage of the Chrysler Affiliate Rewards program, which qualifies you for the Preferred Price* (1% below factory invoice) on a new Chrysler, Jeep®, Dodge or Ram Truck purchase or lease. You can even combine this discount with current incentives† to give you a price that's up to thousands of dollars below MSRP.‡

Here's how:

1.) Visit www.chrysleraffiliates.com or call (888) 444-4321 to learn more about the program and to obtain your Control Number. You'll need the Tread Lightly! Company Code, which is D*****.

2.) Take your Control Number, along with the letter you received in your membership package with your name on it to any U.S. Chrysler, Jeep or Dodge dealership. You MUST have your membership letter to get the discount. If you no longer have your letter, just email us at treadlightly@treadlightly.org.

3.) Ask for a copy of the vehicle invoice, and you'll see the Preferred Price (PP) clearly listed.

4.) Drive away in your new vehicle!


Please visit the Affiliate Rewards Web Site at www.chrysleraffiliates.com for more program information.

Don't forget to take advantage of Tread Lightly!'s other benefits as well, such as a $100 rebate offer from Goodyear and a discount on insurance from Foremost Insurance.

Thank you for your continued support of our important cause! We hope you're able to take advantage of this incredible new benefit.

Sincerely,

The Tread Lightly! Staff
treadlightly@treadlightly.org


*The Preferred Price is the maximum amount to be charged by a participating U.S. dealer for an eligible vehicle. See dealer for details. A $75 administration fee applies. †Current incentives apply at time of offer. ‡The MSRP is the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. MSRP excludes tax. Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge are registered trademarks of Chrysler LLC.

I used the GoodYear rebate, along with the rebate offered through GY at the time and did infact receive both rebates. I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of this offer. If you just called Chrysler without the appropriate info, then they are likely to tell you they know nothing of which you speak....
06-14-2010 01:27 PM
KBR97
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Originally Posted by jeeprph View Post
well I am all about donating for a good cause but on the same token my original reason for going to site was because I am in the market for a new jeep. 1 % below invoice sounds great to me for $25 dollars. I called the number for the chrysler affiliates on tread lightly's site and they know nothing of them and told me that they only offer 1% below invoice to employees and family of. They told me that this was a fraudulent site and would not be recognized. No one who has chimed in so far on this discussion seems to have actually used this discount. As of now seems to be a fake. Any help would help. Please let me know.
Go directly to your dealer that your gonna buy from and bring treadlightly's number with you incase you have to make a phone call. That's odd that they told you it was fraudulent. I have read posts on other forums of people getting the discount.
06-14-2010 12:14 PM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by CapptainObvious View Post
also, if i read the OP correctly, it gets you 1% off the INVOICE price. most people pay more than invoice. so, if the jeep had an invoice price of 25000, but you were going to pay 26000, you are saving 1250 because you get it down to invoice price and then some.
Thank you.
06-14-2010 12:02 PM
CapptainObvious also, if i read the OP correctly, it gets you 1% off the INVOICE price. most people pay more than invoice. so, if the jeep had an invoice price of 25000, but you were going to pay 26000, you are saving 1250 because you get it down to invoice price and then some.
06-14-2010 11:59 AM
jeeprph well I am all about donating for a good cause but on the same token my original reason for going to site was because I am in the market for a new jeep. 1 % below invoice sounds great to me for $25 dollars. I called the number for the chrysler affiliates on tread lightly's site and they know nothing of them and told me that they only offer 1% below invoice to employees and family of. They told me that this was a fraudulent site and would not be recognized. No one who has chimed in so far on this discussion seems to have actually used this discount. As of now seems to be a fake. Any help would help. Please let me know.
06-14-2010 11:40 AM
AfterMath
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
The savings can be much greater or nothing at all. It just depends upon your negotiating skills and how much hassle you want to put yourself through. Where do you come up with a $250 figure?

1% of 25,000.
06-14-2010 11:37 AM
jgano23
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Originally Posted by KBR97 View Post
Well the $25 is also a donation to the organization that trys to help teach people about the effect we have on nature whether it be wheeling biking boating hiking. They try to keep trails and land open to the public, they organize cleanups and stuff. In my opinion you should be donating for the cause...not because you might save 250 of your vehicle purchase.

Anyway..how is it not worth it? You spend 25...and you save 250 or better.....
i agree.
06-14-2010 11:37 AM
KBR97
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Originally Posted by InfernoGirl View Post
Well, that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But personally, I like saving $, every few $'s I save is that much more going into the mod fund!
Word up.
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