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01-10-2014 11:51 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by insylem View Post
Never heard of SPOD but it looks like a neat concept that I'll have to look into.

Not to thread jack or anything but can it be used to run a Winch?
Not exactly. You cannot run the positive or negative lines from a winch through anything other than a prohibitively large switch...like the electrical shut off switch for a house.

Winches can pull upwards of 400 amps.

However, most winches have a very small ground wire that has to be grounded for the winch to work. You could run that wire through a switch, and it will shut the winch off.

And winches also have a controller, you could set up a 3 way switch as an in-dash winch controller, but i dont think spod has 3 way switches.

Either way, spod would be overkill for either one of those, unless you were going to use it anyway for other things.
01-10-2014 10:48 PM
Maximum Carnage I want to know where you got this box from?



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Originally Posted by Olsen185 View Post


01-10-2014 10:01 PM
Olsen185 Here is an update on my wife's 2008. Essentially it is the same as mine (2012), but the power cable comes out of the side instead of the back. Internally it is the same, a fuse block, 4 relays and 2 distribution blocks (1 is ground, the other is power). The 6 wire cable is attached and ready to go. Also I finally got the cable glands to keep the cables in place and help keep the water out.

To add a light bar or other accessory all I need to do is route the power and ground wires into the relay box and connect them to the distribution blocks.

It got too dark so I'll have to instal it tomorrow.







I'll update the thread with some installed pics.
01-08-2014 01:05 AM
MagicMtnDan
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Originally Posted by RoninWylie View Post
JPi1 perhaps instead of taking a defensive stance to the remarks about the S-Pod. You could offer some constrictive criticism to the manufacture of the item. They may realize they have another market segment to sell their product to. S-pod with 3 switches and half price is all I need. Telling me people like it and look to add a second does nothing to further My needs nor the OP's needs. If I were the owner of S-Pod and I read this thread I would be offering up a half size unit to fill the needs of the Jeepers who don't require the 6 switch, but would still like to purchase your product.

Criticizing JPi1 isn't making you look any better.

Why don't you realize that going from 6 switches to 3 switches won't necessarily reduce the price by 1/2?!
01-05-2014 12:33 AM
WhiskeyMike
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Originally Posted by JPi1 View Post
I'm in the business of selling and installing high quality products such as the spod. It's not my invention, nor do I manufacture it. I am not in the business of assuming everyone is an electrical wizard and can fab up what the OP asked for, then blame me for causing an electrical fire in their new $40000 jeep
I appreciate the recommendation. But let's keep the hard selling for the phone. There are dozens of threads talking about the benefits of the Spod, let's direct the OP to check them out. A good combination of off the shelf options and DIY for those a bit more adventurous is great for everyone involved.

I promise I won't blame you for frying my jeep if you contribute something other than buy a product I sell.

Please keep the options coming guys.
01-04-2014 08:09 PM
Txrdstr Found this, 110$ shipped. Contacted the guy and he is making them but is about a month out.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/merchandise-...lay-panel.html
01-04-2014 07:05 PM
Olsen185 Here is my revised box


From the box there is a ground, power, and 6 wire cable (not shown in picture). When you want to connect a new accessory, like a light light bar, all you need to do is route the wire into the box and connect the power and ground to the distribution blocks.

The power wire leads to a 150 amp breaker, which then is attached to the battery. When the dealer complains that your aftermarket accessories are creating an issue, all you have to do is hit the breaker and everything is disconnected!



In the picture you can see the four relays and the ground post.

Under the panel on the other side of the box you can see the fuse block




In it's final position on a 2012-2014 JK.

The 07-11 JKs have their battery turned a different way so the wires will exit the box a little differently on them.

Here is my wife's dirty engine compartment on her 08. As you can see the power needs to come out if the left side of the box and the ground from the right.


The 6 wire cable that is fed to the driver's side a pillar will have 1 ground, 1 constant power and 4 wires to control up to 4 accessories.
01-01-2014 09:55 PM
gigity
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Originally Posted by insylem View Post
Never heard of SPOD but it looks like a neat concept that I'll have to look into.

Not to thread jack or anything but can it be used to run a Winch?
x2 for me... been looking at this for months now and can't pull the trigger. I have windshield mounted trail lights and a winch so far. Both are wired direct to the battery. I can see onboard air in my future to refill the tires and then later on for lockers... maybe another set of lights or two. My problem is with only one switch required right now, I don't really need the other five. if I could wire my winch through it, that would motivate me to fill the other four

What else have people tied into their SPOD?
12-27-2013 04:39 PM
insylem
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Originally Posted by Smokinjoe View Post
One word SPOD ...

Never heard of SPOD but it looks like a neat concept that I'll have to look into.

Not to thread jack or anything but can it be used to run a Winch?
12-26-2013 09:47 AM
JPi1
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Originally Posted by RoninWylie View Post
JPi1 perhaps instead of taking a defensive stance to the remarks about the S-Pod. You could offer some constrictive criticism to the manufacture of the item. They may realize they have another market segment to sell their product to. S-pod with 3 switches and half price is all I need. Telling me people like it and look to add a second does nothing to further My needs nor the OP's needs. If I were the owner of S-Pod and I read this thread I would be offering up a half size unit to fill the needs of the Jeepers who don't require the 6 switch, but would still like to purchase your product.
Ok, here is the OPs words: "Any suggestions for adding an electrical bus like a second fues box or expand the current one on a 14 jk?"
I'm in the business of selling and installing high quality products such as the spod. It's not my invention, nor do I manufacture it. I am not in the business of assuming everyone is an electrical wizard and can fab up what the OP asked for, then blame me for causing an electrical fire in their new $40000 jeep. I simply offered a very well designed, functional part that can be installed in less than an hour. If you are talented enough to build one of these and don't mind taking on the liability, knock yourself out.
12-26-2013 09:33 AM
RoninWylie JPi1 perhaps instead of taking a defensive stance to the remarks about the S-Pod. You could offer some constrictive criticism to the manufacture of the item. They may realize they have another market segment to sell their product to. S-pod with 3 switches and half price is all I need. Telling me people like it and look to add a second does nothing to further My needs nor the OP's needs. If I were the owner of S-Pod and I read this thread I would be offering up a half size unit to fill the needs of the Jeepers who don't require the 6 switch, but would still like to purchase your product.
12-25-2013 08:34 AM
JPi1
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Originally Posted by RoninWylie View Post
The S-pod is overpriced. It is also a bit of overkill for most, I cant think of 6 12v items I want to plug in. If it were half the price and half the size It would be a no brainer.
A good number of our customers are thinking of ways to add a second spod. Most are full with front locker, rear locker, air compressor, rock lights, LED light bar, and A pillar lights. The feed back I get from customers: "It's one of the best upgrades I've done to my jeep".
And they love the smart phone remote control.
12-25-2013 07:42 AM
RoninWylie The S-pod is overpriced. It is also a bit of overkill for most, I cant think of 6 12v items I want to plug in. If it were half the price and half the size It would be a no brainer.
12-25-2013 02:58 AM
MrSig This is what I did.


12-24-2013 10:50 PM
Olsen185 I made it. I am actually getting ready to order the supplies to make my wife's jeep one too. This time though I found a plastic box instead of aluminum. The aluminum box is nice, but I don't want any chance of bridging the terminals on the battery.

I'm working up the prices now, send me an email if you want me to make you one too- sales@angryoffroad.com

Erik
12-24-2013 09:42 PM
Maximum Carnage This is a nice set up, where did this box come from?



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Originally Posted by Olsen185 View Post
This is what I came up with. I used a circuit breaker between the battery and the relay box.



12-24-2013 09:23 PM
JPi1
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
doesnt the spod only go above the rear view mirror though?
On Wranglers there's not many other places to mount them in an uncluttered way.
12-24-2013 09:07 PM
michiganadam doesnt the spod only go above the rear view mirror though?
12-24-2013 09:00 PM
Olsen185 Thanks!!
12-24-2013 08:59 PM
JPi1 Spod is far easier, and less expensive if your time is worth anything. Plus, all spod units are built with marine switches and components (top off in a rain storm) and with the new RCPM (remote controlled power module) you can control all your spod accessories with your smart phone!
And the spod has a specific place to mount the switches and Power Source on all JKs and TJ/LJs. It also will power down on its own if left on so your battery won't be dead if you forget to turn off any accessory!
Here's one in a '14 toy Tacoma we just installed.
12-24-2013 08:44 PM
michiganadam Olsen, nice job!

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Originally Posted by redneckwelder View Post
The hardest part is making sure you use the right gauge of wire, and fuse everything properly to eliminate the chance of fire. You can tap into ignition power by using an add a circuit. Basic wiring, and lots of online sources for info it.
Don't ever think you've "eliminated" the chance of fire. You can....reduce it greatly. But stock electrical systems catch on fire....

I'm sure we know that starters dont have fuses.
12-16-2013 11:08 AM
Olsen185 This is what I came up with. I used a circuit breaker between the battery and the relay box. The power goes from the curcuit breaker to a fuse block in the relay box. Each relay is separately fused.


Curcuit breaker

These are the outputs for whatever is being powered

This picture shows the fuse block. The yellow wires get connected to a 6 wire cable that runs to the switches.
12-02-2013 11:30 AM
redneckwelder The hardest part is making sure you use the right gauge of wire, and fuse everything properly to eliminate the chance of fire. You can tap into ignition power by using an add a circuit. Basic wiring, and lots of online sources for info it.
12-01-2013 06:48 PM
wrpnst1 Here is a list of what you will need... I ordered most of the parts from
Electrical & Wiring Supplies - Automotive, Marine and Commercial - WiringProducts

5 x automotive relays
5 x pre-wired relay bases
1 x inline fuse holder
11 x male spade connectors
32 x female spade connectors
1 x small eyelet connector
2 x large eyelet connectors
4 x copper crimp connectors
1 x 3 amp fuse
1 x 30 amp fuse
5 x 20 amp fuses
1 x 6 in 1 raised fuse box
1 x 6"x4"x3" water tight box
1 x 10' length of 6-conductor cord/wire.. I had this from a Trailer Project....
1 x 1' length of 16 gauge black wire
2 x ¼" rubber grommet
1 x ⅝" rubber grommet
1 x ½" rubber grommet
Extra wires used come from pieces cut off of pre-wired relay bases

Good Luck

Michael
11-29-2013 12:05 PM
michiganadam I dont know about you guys, but i dont like spod. I dont like where they intend for it to be mounted and i dont like their price.

I havent finished my install yet but I found these switch boxes that are used in cop cars. I paid $100 for the switchbox, it has 5 20 amp switches with fuses, and one 40 amp switch with relay and circuit breaker. Mounts like a cb. Of course you can still connect it to relays... Of course you ought to connect it with a fuse closer to the battery. And sure, its a little more work, but is it really worth the extra $300 or so to not do that work?

http://www.star1889.com/products/sig...Switch-Box.asp
11-29-2013 12:03 PM
thebuilderman That was a great video. I am trying to figure what type and kind of lights for my jeep.
11-29-2013 12:22 AM
Olsen185 Any good place to buy the components?
11-28-2013 04:52 AM
CoHoJoe Thanks for the ideas all, I will have to watch that video, except at work now so tomorrow! I will post up what design I come up with and project pics once I get started!
11-27-2013 08:54 AM
spankinkopita The relay makes the source switched with ignition. I use the block for accessories I don't wish to power when the Jeep is off, charger, GPS, back up camera
11-27-2013 08:38 AM
milani This is a great idea, but what is the purpose of the relays?
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