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08-09-2010 11:20 AM
KBR97
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Originally Posted by m3t9m View Post
man all those kits cost $1000+ im looking for something for 500-700 max...the only thing i found was the rough country kit (which i read bad reviews about) and a skyjacker kit, what do you guys think about skyjacker? or anything else you may recommend
All the kits these guys are recommending are the ones you want to buy. If you want to build your jeep right the first time then take the advice. You dont wanna end up regretting what you bought and kicking yourself in the ass, saying damn I wish I would have blah blah blah...
And yes if you plan on building your jeep with a lift like the size your looking into, you will need a SYE and CV driveshaft and all that nonsense.

it was said best here....
Quote:
Originally Posted by lancetkenyon
yeah, a never ending vicious circle of pain and torture......all to have a little fun on the weekends. Is it worth it all? Heck yeah!!!
08-09-2010 10:58 AM
lancetkenyon If you get the t-case lowering spacers, you should not need the SYE and CV DS. BUT.....you will be losing some of the height and breakover angle you are trying to gain. Try it without the spacers, and if you need the SYE and CV DS, then go get them.
08-09-2010 12:26 AM
m3t9m i think im gonna go with a zone 3" kit found here: 3" TJ Suspension System i dont wanna go too high so i think 3" is perfect...again would i NEED a sye, cv/ds for this kit?
07-30-2010 11:46 AM
snwchris Yes and no... each Jeep is different. The best way would be yes get the SYE & CV DS.

You can get by with a T-Case drop, which usually comes with it, but I never understood those and why.... especially since you just lifted the Jeep, now your dropping the t-case another inch lower, almost defeats the purpose.
07-30-2010 03:36 AM
m3t9m now if i want to go with a 3"-3.5" kit, will i still need a SYE, CV/DS?
07-28-2010 04:01 PM
snwchris OME 2" Kit $750
TJ Old Man Emu lift - Stage 1

Teraflex 3" kit $700
http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/ter...in-p-3428.html

Full Traction 3" Economy Kit $566
http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/ful...on-p-3975.html
07-28-2010 03:29 PM
snwchris Yea a good kit will costs some coin $$$, atleast $750 to $1,000.

Like mentioned before it all depends on what you want to do, the type of wheeling etc...

If you buy a cheap kit, that's what you'll get... cheap stuff and cheap components.

Wheel it stock for a little, do your research and see where it takes you.
07-28-2010 02:16 PM
m3t9m nicce...thanks man
07-23-2010 04:46 PM
lancetkenyon Basic kit.

Rock Krawler Catalog

Better.

Rock Krawler Catalog

More better.

Rock Krawler Catalog

Even MORE better.

Rock Krawler Catalog

Best.

Rock Krawler Catalog

OK, there are even better kits, but for the lift height you want, these are a great start.
07-23-2010 04:35 PM
lancetkenyon
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Originally Posted by m3t9m View Post
Motors a 2.5L 4 banger, trannys a 3 speed auto, dont know about the axles i think their stock...what gears would you recommend for that? thanks again for all your help
My personal opinion:
4.88 R&P with 33s and a 4 popper with an auto(or a 5 spd).

You have a D30 front axle, and a D35 rear axle.
07-22-2010 11:46 PM
schnutzy try this one, it seems to get good reviews.

4" TJ Suspension System
07-22-2010 11:44 PM
m3t9m man all those kits cost $1000+ im looking for something for 500-700 max...the only thing i found was the rough country kit (which i read bad reviews about) and a skyjacker kit, what do you guys think about skyjacker? or anything else you may recommend
07-22-2010 09:12 PM
snwchris I've heard alot of people complain about the ride of the Rough Country kits. If I remeber correctly mabe their newer ones might ride better, but not sure.

I would look at Teraflex, Rock Krawler, OME or Rubicon Express before buying a RC kit.

RC kits tend to be on the cheap side for a reason.

Have you read thru the "Lift Review" sticky at the top yet.... you should there's alot of good feed back in there as well as pics

Chris
07-22-2010 06:27 PM
m3t9m Also, what do you guys think about this lift kit: Jeep TJ Suspension Lift ?
07-22-2010 06:25 PM
m3t9m
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Originally Posted by lancetkenyon View Post
Absolutely. Drive line vibes are not only annoying, but will cause failure with your t-case.

Depends on what you do with your rig and what is currently has for axles. If you have a D35 rear axle(which I bet you do, and guarantee if you have a 4 popper), you should seriously consider getting the Superior Super D35 kit to keep the shafts alive for long. If you wheel(which sounds like you want to), or want to be able to use 5th gear(if it is a stick), you WILL want to re-gear the axles. The loss of power will be horrible, especially with a 4 popper motor(which I am pretty sure is what you have).

A few more specs on your rig would help. Like motor, tranny, axles, etc.
Motors a 2.5L 4 banger, trannys a 3 speed auto, dont know about the axles i think their stock...what gears would you recommend for that? thanks again for all your help
07-22-2010 10:54 AM
lancetkenyon
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Originally Posted by m3t9m View Post
whaaaat?! do i really need an SYE, CV DS, gearing, and chromo shafts for 33" tires and a 4" lift?
Absolutely. Drive line vibes are not only annoying, but will cause failure with your t-case.

Depends on what you do with your rig and what is currently has for axles. If you have a D35 rear axle(which I bet you do, and guarantee if you have a 4 popper), you should seriously consider getting the Superior Super D35 kit to keep the shafts alive for long. If you wheel(which sounds like you want to), or want to be able to use 5th gear(if it is a stick), you WILL want to re-gear the axles. The loss of power will be horrible, especially with a 4 popper motor(which I am pretty sure is what you have).

A few more specs on your rig would help. Like motor, tranny, axles, etc.
07-22-2010 07:55 AM
Kate
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Originally Posted by m3t9m View Post
Hello, im kinda new to the whole 4x4 off-roading community so i had a couple of questions about lifting...first of all i drive a TJ, and im thinking of doing a 6" lift but want to know the difference between the rough country X series and the rough country long arm kit...thanks
Hi!

Here's what you do.
Pick up the phone and call Rough Country. Ask for Joey. He's the rep for our club. (Midsouth Jeeps)
He is a GREAT guy and will give you good solid information, explain the differences to you and help you determine what might be the right way to go.

IF they had it back when I bought my 4" RCX kit, I would have gone with the long arm. When i was up at their offices last time I got to see it in person and it looks GOOD! As soon as my money tree blooms again, I will prolly be upgrading to it.

Just curious, why do you want to go 6"?
Makes it kinda long legged on the trails.
Lower center of gravity = better stability
07-22-2010 07:17 AM
FREDO 4X4 SYE = Slip yoke elimanator

CV DS = constent velocity drive shaft

You will need these cause when you lift your jeep that high your drive line geometry will be off causing vibrations in the rear shaft. You should be able to find lots of info on these by doing searchs. cause im not sure where the best deals are. I think tom woods is the best for cv ds thou.
07-22-2010 12:13 AM
m3t9m haha im still a n0000b, can anyone please explain what a SYE, CV/DS is and where I can purchase it from. Thanks
07-22-2010 12:05 AM
InfernoGirl You really need the SYE and CV for 4" lift. For 33's you need at least 3" of lift, more is better for offroad, and gearing may be an issue for you. It may not, it depends on what you expect.

I'll put it this way, if you don't do all the things suggested to run a big (4"+) lift, then you end up like so many others, asking why is my Jeep so crappy on the road? How do I fix my ride? What's this vibration? Etc.......
07-21-2010 11:58 PM
m3t9m
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Originally Posted by lancetkenyon View Post
The cost goes up exponentially when you go big. The desire for big tires increases the need for big parts 10 fold. 33s requires a small lift, SYE and CV DS, gearing in the axles, and maybe chromo shafts. You go to 35s, the rear axle becomes an issue and usually needs a new one(if you have a D35), chromos are needed F/R, deep gears, bigger lift, body lift, starting to need better performing suspension and lockers to be able to utilize the full benefit of the bigger tires, and the trails start requiring a full cage to keep you safe. Go to 37s, the front D30 will not last long, even with chromos(better look for a D44, 9" or D60 front now), a rear D44 or 8.8 is marginal, even with chromos, upgrades to the t-case as soon coming, more clearance at the wheel wells means more lift or cutting/high clearance fenders, now you need a winch cause you are running hard trails, etc. Go to 39s or 40s and might as well save some serious coin and just buy a buggy. D60s F/R or better, stretch the WB, might as well do coil-overs now, HD EVERYTHING, t-case, tranny, cut the body all apart, tube it out........yeah, a never ending vicious circle of pain and torture......all to have a little fun on the weekends. Is it worth it all? Heck yeah!!!
whaaaat?! do i really need an SYE, CV DS, gearing, and chromo shafts for 33" tires and a 4" lift?
07-21-2010 11:36 AM
lancetkenyon The cost goes up exponentially when you go big. The desire for big tires increases the need for big parts 10 fold. 33s requires a small lift, SYE and CV DS, gearing in the axles, and maybe chromo shafts. You go to 35s, the rear axle becomes an issue and usually needs a new one(if you have a D35), chromos are needed F/R, deep gears, bigger lift, body lift, starting to need better performing suspension and lockers to be able to utilize the full benefit of the bigger tires, and the trails start requiring a full cage to keep you safe. Go to 37s, the front D30 will not last long, even with chromos(better look for a D44, 9" or D60 front now), a rear D44 or 8.8 is marginal, even with chromos, upgrades to the t-case as soon coming, more clearance at the wheel wells means more lift or cutting/high clearance fenders, now you need a winch cause you are running hard trails, etc. Go to 39s or 40s and might as well save some serious coin and just buy a buggy. D60s F/R or better, stretch the WB, might as well do coil-overs now, HD EVERYTHING, t-case, tranny, cut the body all apart, tube it out........yeah, a never ending vicious circle of pain and torture......all to have a little fun on the weekends. Is it worth it all? Heck yeah!!!
07-21-2010 12:54 AM
schnutzy then you might want to think about a 4 inch and 33s....

the cheapest 6 inch kit ive seen is from rough county. but you need more then just the lift kit. you need things like a SYE and new driveshaft. and to handle the size and added weight of 35 inch tires, you need to upgrade your rear axle and should upgrade your steering and braking as well. because you have a 4 cylinder, you may have to up grade your front axle as well in order to be able to put the right gears in to compensate for the 35s.
the front D30 axle will only fit 4.88 gears. with the engine you have, those are recommended for 33 inch tires. they are still a little to tall for 35s, unless you want it to be even more of a snail then it already is.

basically, a 6 inch lift, and 35s invite a huge amount of problems and things that you need to upgrade.
33s do as well, but its not as much stuff to upgrade.
07-21-2010 12:50 AM
m3t9m hmmm how much are we talking about for a 6 inch lift? if more than 2k then i think i might go with 4 inches and 33's.
07-20-2010 11:32 PM
ESP that pic of the almost baja Jeep with the 39's is insane. I'm sure his wallet isn't nearly as big as that after that mod!
07-20-2010 11:28 PM
schnutzy
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Originally Posted by lancetkenyon View Post
Then all it takes is deep pockets and time.
Mine has taken about 5 years so far, and I still have a couple years to go.
i have neither of those.
07-20-2010 11:26 PM
lancetkenyon
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Originally Posted by schnutzy View Post
well when you put it that way. HELL YEAH i wana go that big
Then all it takes is deep pockets and time.
Mine has taken about 5 years so far, and I still have a couple years to go.
07-20-2010 08:17 PM
snwchris I would recommend a 4" lift and 33's will get you pretty much anywhere and cover alot of the trails as well.

Look into the following: Teraflex, Rock Krawler or RE 4.5 kits


LANCETKENYON sweet rig... wanna trade.. LOL
07-20-2010 06:02 PM
schnutzy
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Originally Posted by lancetkenyon View Post
6" lift and 39s. You sure you want to go that big?

well when you put it that way. HELL YEAH i wana go that big
07-20-2010 05:56 PM
lancetkenyon 6" lift and 39s. You sure you want to go that big?

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