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08-22-2010 07:49 PM
toshpate Had outdoor/marine bose speakers. Mounted them directly to my tire wells with the mounting brackets they came with. Awesome sound. Theft proof. Have had after market stereos in all my jeeps and never had issues with water with an indash mount.... Just saying
08-22-2010 03:16 PM
sonofabeach I've been caught in quite a few bad/scary downpours with no doors or windows. I've had my radio and speakers get wet pretty good from water shooting in but it's all still kickin'.
Even with the top up and the defroster on high I've still had to use a cloth/towel to wipe the inside of the windshield and the radio off every few minutes during a storm. With the way I am with my Jeep there's no way I could have an amp under any seats much less a wooden speaker box in the back.
I don't think marine audio is a must especially since most speakers nowadays are the plastic/poly cone type
08-22-2010 12:20 AM
Gee oh Dee Save yourself the money and headache, and just use your iPod.
08-21-2010 11:17 PM
Jma20a
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Originally Posted by frankups1 View Post
hmm... maybe ill spend the extra money then and go with the component speakers. Do you still have the factory soundbar?

i think i have an old amp laying around ill have to see how it fits. Do you know how it can be mounted? the bottom of my rear seat is just loose fabric, maybe ill have to build some sort of brace.
i do still have the factory sound bar. i have a set of 5.25" infinity kappa perfect components in the front and a set of 6.5" kappa perfect components in the rollbar. the one thing about components is that they put out very little lower frequency's, that way there is very little distortion at higher volume, the low frequency is for a sub.
08-21-2010 08:50 PM
GoldenSahara00 You can honestly mount it about anywhere :P im gona be honest, I dont even have a back seat, so... I donnt know how it fits, or anything. Ive never even owned one. I have a 38x20x16 ported box with a kicker l7 and kicker amp in the back and its takes up my entire trunk, it wont fit sideways, so I put it in longways. But today I redid my box, cut it down to fit sideways and Im building a custom vented enclosure onto it that will have my amp inside under plexiglass, so you can see it but not touch :P that the problem with amps, in the open, they can be stolen. thats the other reason people say under the seat. anyways.


Theres alot of places to put the amp. get creative. your ceiling, under any seats, gove box or between seats, in the footspace for rear seats, I mean you could do whatever obviously.

But your best bet is under the seat if you dont see a sub&enclosure in your imediate future. do some reasearch and buy a good amp that wont over heat. Im gona do that with mine when I get an amp for my components. Goodluck and let us know how it goes!

as always if you have any questions, just let me know.
08-21-2010 06:36 PM
frankups1
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Originally Posted by Jma20a View Post
i have some really nice component speakers in the front and in the soundbar, i have had it rain a few times with the top down and there was no damage done to the speakers, the cones are made of aluminum so the water can't do much damage.

as for the amp under the rear seat, there is plenty of room to mount an amp, when the seat is folded forward you are only going to loose an inch at the most, most amps are thinner than three inches.

if you are worried that the rain may damage the headunit you can get a marine cover that you can mount on most headunits, just take a look at west marine, they sell the retractable covers. first take some measurements of the headunit before getting the cover.
hmm... maybe ill spend the extra money then and go with the component speakers. Do you still have the factory soundbar?

i think i have an old amp laying around ill have to see how it fits. Do you know how it can be mounted? the bottom of my rear seat is just loose fabric, maybe ill have to build some sort of brace.
08-21-2010 06:26 PM
Jma20a i have some really nice component speakers in the front and in the soundbar, i have had it rain a few times with the top down and there was no damage done to the speakers, the cones are made of aluminum so the water can't do much damage.

as for the amp under the rear seat, there is plenty of room to mount an amp, when the seat is folded forward you are only going to loose an inch at the most, most amps are thinner than three inches.

if you are worried that the rain may damage the headunit you can get a marine cover that you can mount on most headunits, just take a look at west marine, they sell the retractable covers. first take some measurements of the headunit before getting the cover.
08-21-2010 04:06 PM
frankups1
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
well I didnt put any marine speakers in at all. The ones in your dash *shouldnt* get wet enough to do much damage, because they are set back in pretty far. but marine speakers arent that much more money, so if you want to go for it. especially if you plan on going in alot of deep mud or water, or you live in a rainy area. The speaker bar speakers, im not sure if its water "proof" or not, but because of its design its pretty resilient to the elements like all parts of a wrangler. Im sure you can take a look at it. The only probably with putting your amp under the seat is the chance of it overheating down there, so make sure it is open to the air somehow.

I believe the dash speakers are 4x6, but you can get a conversion kit for 5.5 round, I belive, or something like that which sound better. if your gona redo the speakers, you ,ight as well get better ones. I just bought a pair online for about 65 and they sounds great. In the speaker bar I believe they are 5 1/4 round or something that that. but it can fit the next size up, 6 1/2 I believe. thats what I have in mine. not marines and they havent blown or had problems yet, and they havent seen much water either. Im running them off my aftermarket headunit, so they arent getting full RMS im kinda bummed but Im looking for a new 4 channel small amp in the future.

anyways. its not overkill for marines, its actually smart because your not gona get water damagee and lose 80 when u just spend 40 more for all 4 to be marines.

the speaker pods are junk and highly over priced, but if you like the look go for them. I personally am gona build my own out of CF resin and board and buy speakers and wire them all myself, i would save you alot of money and give that custom look but im one of those guys who likes to make up his own projects to make the jeep my own. anyway, if you need anymore advice or have questions, just ask. I have my system decked out all the way
Thanks for the reply GoldenSahara, i just spent the past hour or two reading up on it and it doesn't seem like too many people have had problems with speakers being damaged by water. i guess choosing between marine and regular speakers will just have to be up to my discretion.

about the amp, i read that in a couple places that the best place to mount the amp would be under the rear seat, attached to the rear seat, so that cargo space is not sacrificed when the seat is folded up. i just went out to look (i am currently at work) and i dont think an amp will fit under my rear seat. do you have any suggestions on any other place to install an amp? im thinking maybe mount it to the tailgate, under some sort of protective/ camouflaging sheet of metal. what do you think?
08-21-2010 03:04 PM
GoldenSahara00 well I didnt put any marine speakers in at all. The ones in your dash *shouldnt* get wet enough to do much damage, because they are set back in pretty far. but marine speakers arent that much more money, so if you want to go for it. especially if you plan on going in alot of deep mud or water, or you live in a rainy area. The speaker bar speakers, im not sure if its water "proof" or not, but because of its design its pretty resilient to the elements like all parts of a wrangler. Im sure you can take a look at it. The only probably with putting your amp under the seat is the chance of it overheating down there, so make sure it is open to the air somehow.

I believe the dash speakers are 4x6, but you can get a conversion kit for 5.5 round, I belive, or something like that which sound better. if your gona redo the speakers, you ,ight as well get better ones. I just bought a pair online for about 65 and they sounds great. In the speaker bar I believe they are 5 1/4 round or something that that. but it can fit the next size up, 6 1/2 I believe. thats what I have in mine. not marines and they havent blown or had problems yet, and they havent seen much water either. Im running them off my aftermarket headunit, so they arent getting full RMS im kinda bummed but Im looking for a new 4 channel small amp in the future.

anyways. its not overkill for marines, its actually smart because your not gona get water damagee and lose 80 when u just spend 40 more for all 4 to be marines.

the speaker pods are junk and highly over priced, but if you like the look go for them. I personally am gona build my own out of CF resin and board and buy speakers and wire them all myself, i would save you alot of money and give that custom look but im one of those guys who likes to make up his own projects to make the jeep my own. anyway, if you need anymore advice or have questions, just ask. I have my system decked out all the way
08-21-2010 02:44 PM
frankups1
Marine audio Equipment

I recently bought a 2005 tj and i want to replace/add the sound system. i have alot of experience with car audio equipment but I am pretty much new to the whole jeep experience. i would like to install an amp and new speakers in the soundbar and front dash, and maybe a couple of those speaker pods in various places. To me, it makes sense to install a marine amp (its board is resistant to moisture) is this overkill? It seems (from reading posts in this forum) that the best place to install an amp is under the rear seat. Is this an area that is prone to get wet? I do not plan on driving in the rain with the top down, but i understand there is a good possibility water will get in side. now for the speakers. Is the factory soundbar weatherproof? again, is it overkill to put marine speakers in the soundbar?

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