|05-09-2011 09:29 AM|
|shipjim||Famous last words.....I needed it for my jeep....always works for me.|
|08-23-2010 04:16 PM|
You're right that a 110v is ok for the small stuff but even on my TJ, there was just too much it couldn't handle. I wouldn't have sold it to buy a 220v welder if it could have done everything I needed it to for my Jeep.
|08-23-2010 02:47 PM|
|Ibuildembig||Get the ole lady a clothes line|
|08-23-2010 02:39 PM|
|mrcarcrazy||For small stuff I personally don't see any issue with 110...esp since the only 220V many people have is dedicated to their dryer....(this is true for me at least)|
|08-23-2010 02:10 PM|
|Jerry Bransford||I added frame tie-ins to mine.|
|08-23-2010 02:09 PM|
|Ibuildembig||Yeah most of the recievers I have seen on um are exactly that way too|
|08-23-2010 01:58 PM|
|DevilDogDoc||What's funny is the drawtite receiver hitch that came on my Jeep didn't need frame tie-ins, it uses all 8 bolts that hold the bumper on... It's rated at 2000 lbs.|
|08-23-2010 01:23 PM|
|Ibuildembig||The only reason I mentioned it is to save someone some hassle in a 110. There are quality 110's out there, but by the time you buy one new you coulda had a good used 220v machine that will last forever. I've had my Miller 251 for 8 years now and I just replaced the liner in january.|
|08-23-2010 12:43 PM|
|Jerry Bransford||MIG is arc, it just auto feeds the stick. Plus you can add gas to a MIG welder so you don't get all the slag and mess of gasless welding.|
|08-23-2010 12:36 PM|
|530ktm||I have a Lincoln 225 amp 220 volt welder. I have had this for many years and I learned welding in college 100 years ago. I have welded and fabbed a lot of things over the years and have wondered what is the difference between the arc welder and mig except for the auto feed.|
|08-23-2010 12:05 PM|
|08-23-2010 11:55 AM|
|Ibuildembig||Agreed, cept you have to remember you get what you pay for. I would never buy a 110Volt machine. They are too hard for a beginner to use. Find you a good used 220V one and you won't ever look back. I just bought a TIG last friday, can't wait to get good at aluminum.|
|08-23-2010 11:43 AM|
Of all the welding disciplines, MIG has to be the easiest one to pick up in a rather short amount of time. Plus there are videos from companies like Miller that give you a jump start on the process. No one taught me, I just learned by doing a lot of practicing, reading, and watching a couple videos.
|08-23-2010 11:38 AM|
|Ibuildembig||Hey man, its just a matter of learning ....I am self taught and passed all the cert tests.|
|08-23-2010 11:34 AM|
|TerrorJ2001||I wish I could weld things. It would give me peace of mind for a lot of projects.|
|08-23-2010 11:31 AM|
|Ibuildembig||I think most companies will tell you that they are not tow rated to keep themselves out of court. Dad has had several different YJ's at his river house to launch is boat off the front end. All I did was make a reciever tube and weld it through the stock bumper and gusset it, but still made it removable so when we sell that jeep we can put it on the next one. I feel that if the material is good and the weld is good, you shouldn't have a problem. After all, a 1" of weld is good for 1K pounds|
|08-23-2010 11:26 AM|
|Vaultzz||Atleast that's what I've been told. I was told that having it bolted would have the bolt stick out and prevent the shackle from moving back. If that makes anysense|
|08-23-2010 11:21 AM|
|08-23-2010 11:18 AM|
|Vaultzz||Jerry, I meantthey need to be welded since the bolts usually interfere with the rear shackles of a YJ, I thought he had a YJ woops|
|08-23-2010 11:03 AM|
|GoldenSahara00||Well, I have a hitch/reciever whatever u call it in your parts, and it connects up to my frame on each side, and comes back under my bumper. I just towed my 12 or 14 foot trailer with probably 800 pounds of river rock on it.... that was probably pushing the 2000 limit for my jeep, but I barely felt it I would look into one of those, I think its like the guys above me are talking about.|
|08-23-2010 10:57 AM|
My first factory Mopar tow hitch, my bolt-on U-haul tow hitch, my Olympic Rock Bumper with its integrated receiver hitch, and my current Dirt Works bumper with its integrated hitch all have integrated safety chain attach points in one bolt-on assembly.
|08-23-2010 08:08 AM|
D ring shackles are not legal chain points for towing...you must have the chain running through, around, or to the FRAME and not tied to the same bumper system the hitch is tied to...it's to prevent the bumper from pulling off the rig and taking the trailer down the road with it...having chains hooked to something else will keep it attached.
Although probably no cops realize it and just figure if you have the chains hooked to something you are okay to go...but stop and think about it.
Where does the tow truck hook up to on you? Not the bumper...!
|08-22-2010 03:49 PM|
lol, Jerry - I was waiting for your response.
I'm sure the d-ring shackles can be used for attach points. NYS requires safety chains but doesn't specify any specific length/location of the chains
Over-all I like the look of the bumpers, my logic was getting something "all-in-one" than individually buying hitches, recovery points (hooks), mounting spots for extra lights.
|08-22-2010 03:35 PM|
There are plenty of bumpers rated to tow 2,000 lbs, with integrated 2" receiver hitches, my "Rock Bumper" from Olympic (on my TJ that was stolen) was rated for towing.
Just make sure there are attach points for towing which is the law for every state I am aware of.
And Coop42, it's a 2" receiver hitch that we use, not a 2.5".
|08-22-2010 03:27 PM|
|coop42||Besttop.. I might be wrong, but I bekeive they are one of the few that sell a full 2.5" reciever on the rear bumper. If you intend to tow a boat or any thing else, thats what you need. My friend has a small business. He tows a 6' trailer all the time..|
|08-22-2010 03:27 PM|
If you install an aux frame tie in then the Xmember gets reinforced by the frame and thn you can safely tow the max capacity, and get yanked out with out worrying about ripping it off
Theres lost of brands out there and they look something like this
But they need to be welded to the frame because of the shackles
|08-22-2010 03:23 PM|
I'm sure there have been threads about towing but I feel that this question lies outside of the typical realm of concerns.
Recently, I have been looking into front and rear bumper upgrades from "Body Armor" products TJ-19331 and the TJ-2931.
Here are the pics (since you guys love 'em images)
The rep at "Body Armor" stated that the bumpers themselves are very strong and durable, they are not towing rated because of the strength of the rear cross member (frame strength). He recommended not to exceed 150lbs.
Here is a rear x-member (this is not my Jeep)
All I am looking to do is add a 500lb cargo basket to the front and/or rear. In the future I would need the ability to tow a trailer and a small boat. I wouldn't exceed a tongue weight of 200lbs.
My concern is, what is the max towing capacity to maintain safe driving? I've read 200lbs tongue weight/2000lbs max towing weight online. Anyone have any recommendations? Should I not bother towing with my Jeep? (My brother has an XJ - would I be better off with his Jeep?)