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08-30-2010 01:13 PM
Artlugo Thanks I will look Them up
08-30-2010 12:20 PM
Ibuildembig
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Originally Posted by Artlugo View Post
K now I have a ?. How much mods have to be done on an 8.8 of a ford ex . So that it will fit my 03 tj up front. No stupid question I hope.
There is an 8.8 front axle, its in an F150. Its not a solid axle, its IFS so you can't use it.
08-30-2010 12:06 PM
EdJonesJeeper
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Originally Posted by Artlugo
Thanks I belive I have a d44 in tge rear. In the front a d30. That's what I have got from previous treads. So what mods are go to beef up my front end and is there any front end axles out there that would fit my TJ beside off another wrangler? K I am alittle ingnorant when it comes to jeeps or curious is what I call it. :-)
Unless your going 35s+ there's no need to replace the front.

I had a thread going "what the best front axle upgrade not 1 ton" that u can search. Dana 30 locked will handle 33s. 35s u need to truss and put some Cromolies in but I got couple buddies runnin 35s locked on stock d30. They just bring spare shafts from junkyards.
08-30-2010 11:55 AM
Artlugo Thanks I belive I have a d44 in tge rear. In the front a d30. That's what I have got from previous treads. So what mods are go to beef up my front end and is there any front end axles out there that would fit my TJ beside off another wrangler? K I am alittle ingnorant when it comes to jeeps or curious is what I call it. :-)
08-30-2010 08:49 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by yjkid95 View Post
Yea I know hes running 3.73's I just thought the 4.10s would be better for the 33's and he wanted to regear anyways
4.10 is not a great choice for 33" tires with the 5-speed manual tranny, that ratio doesn't really restore the power lost by the larger tires. 4.56 is the better choice. I made the mistake many years ago of only regearing to 4.10 when I was running 33" tires after my more experienced wheeling friends recommended 4.56. Within a week or two, I was kicking myself for not having gone with 4.56. I was constantly having to downshift with the 4.10 gearing, 5th gear was not very useful after that 4.10 decision.

The factory gears the Rubicon to 4.10 but that is for 31" tires. To get the same performance with 33" tires the factory gives for 31" tires, you need 4.56.

The only time 4.10 is the best choice for 33" tires is when you have the 3-speed automatic used in 2002 and older TJs.
08-30-2010 08:41 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Artlugo View Post
K now I have a ?. How much mods have to be done on an 8.8 of a ford ex . So that it will fit my 03 tj up front. No stupid question I hope.
As said above, the 8.8 is a rear axle. If you installed one up front, you wouldn't be able to steer.
08-30-2010 08:37 AM
EdJonesJeeper
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Originally Posted by Artlugo
K now I have a ?. How much mods have to be done on an 8.8 of a ford ex . So that it will fit my 03 tj up front. No stupid question I hope.
8.8 is a rear axle. You.have a d30 up front. Only real mods are welding the proper brackets and makeing sure the gearing matchs in front and rear axles.

You probably have a d35 in back if diff cover is semetrical. If it's oblong and the bottom bolt is offcenter you have the much stronger d44 And don't need the 8.8 upgrade.
08-30-2010 07:40 AM
Artlugo K now I have a ?. How much mods have to be done on an 8.8 of a ford ex . So that it will fit my 03 tj up front. No stupid question I hope.
08-30-2010 06:27 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by Jeepzcb09 View Post
a friend of mine ran 33's with 4.10 and with a 4.0 and it had great acceleration and good fuel economy, but then he totaled it, now he runs 3.73s on 35's......
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
Remember, there is no RIGHT/WRONG, there is only ideal and less-than-ideal.
I quoted myself for emphasis.....
08-29-2010 11:37 PM
Jeepzcb09 a friend of mine ran 33's with 4.10 and with a 4.0 and it had great acceleration and good fuel economy, but then he totaled it, now he runs 3.73s on 35's......
08-29-2010 09:26 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by nick50471 View Post
I thought about regearing to 4.56 for the 33's. But when I found this 8.8 for $150 with 4.10's I thought that it might be enough.
I don't think you'll be happy with it with 4.10 gears. If you have anyone local who's running the same motor/trans/4.10s and 33" tires, ask them to take their rig for a drive and see what you think. Of course, a vehicle drives differently when offroad, so see if they'll let you wheel their rig as well. If the gearing is something you feel you can live with, then go for it. Otherwise you're looking at having to regear....

Remember, there is no RIGHT/WRONG, there is only ideal and less-than-ideal.
08-29-2010 09:09 PM
nick50471 I thought about regearing to 4.56 for the 33's. But when I found this 8.8 for $150 with 4.10's I thought that it might be enough.
08-29-2010 09:01 PM
cavediverjc Nick, if you're going to regear (and I would), then it doesn't matter what 8.8 you get, since you're going to want to regear to 4.56 or so for your 33's.....

It would be a waste of money to buy the 8.8 with the 4.10, thinking you'll just regear the front to 4.10. It's not ideal for 33's, and if you're going to regear, get the optimal ratio. At this point, if you know you're going to regear, then just try to get the best deal on ANY late model 8.8. I got mine for $250. Locked.
08-29-2010 08:34 PM
pakman55
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Originally Posted by nick50471 View Post
sorry, i need to correct myself my tj has 3.07 gears.
4.10 8.8 ftw
08-29-2010 08:32 PM
nick50471 Sorry, I need to correct myself my TJ has 3.07 gears.
08-29-2010 08:18 PM
yjkid95
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
I made it easy for you...... (He's running 3.73s, not 4.10s)
Yea I know hes running 3.73's I just thought the 4.10s would be better for the 33's and he wanted to regear anyways sorry if im wrong about that and cavediverjc is right they do come with 3.73s if you dont want to regear the front axle.
08-29-2010 08:12 PM
cavediverjc Nick, 3.73 gears are very common in the 8.8......just keep looking for one with the right gears. Forget about the 4.10 geared one....
08-29-2010 08:10 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by nick50471 View Post
I am on the fence with this axle issue as well. I run 33's and D30/D35 3.73 gears no lockers. I am planning on making the pilgrimage to Moab next summer. I don't want to break my D35 on the fist climb. I have a 8.8 out of a 95 Explorer available for $150 with 4.10 gears. I found a D44 out of a 2004 Rubi but the guy who has it wants to sell the salvaged Jeep. Not part it out.

If I add a locker to the rear of my D35 will it hold up to the 33's or should I just get the 8.8?
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To my knowledge if you add a locker to the D35 your increasing the chance of you breaking it. I'd just get the 8.8 with the 4.10 gears. The 8.8 atleast has a limited slip diff. in it stock and the gears youd need (that is if you have a 4.0)
I made it easy for you...... (He's running 3.73s, not 4.10s)
08-29-2010 08:09 PM
yjkid95 I could be wrong but im pretty sure. I have to get one from the local junkyard for when i do the v8 conversion
08-29-2010 08:00 PM
pakman55
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Originally Posted by yjkid95 View Post
I thought the LSD came with the one that had 4.10 gears?
You're probably right If it has LSD, but that 8.8 Nick. Heck, I'll buy it from you.
08-29-2010 07:58 PM
yjkid95
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Originally Posted by pakman55 View Post
Only some had the LSD.
I thought the LSD came with the one that had 4.10 gears?
08-29-2010 07:55 PM
pakman55
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Originally Posted by yjkid95 View Post
To my knowledge if you add a locker to the D35 your increasing the chance of you breaking it. I'd just get the 8.8 with the 4.10 gears. The 8.8 atleast has a limited slip diff. in it stock and the gears youd need (that is if you have a 4.0)
Only some had the LSD.
08-29-2010 07:53 PM
yjkid95 To my knowledge if you add a locker to the D35 your increasing the chance of you breaking it. I'd just get the 8.8 with the 4.10 gears. The 8.8 atleast has a limited slip diff. in it stock and the gears youd need (that is if you have a 4.0)
08-29-2010 07:46 PM
nick50471 I am on the fence with this axle issue as well. I run 33's and D30/D35 3.73 gears no lockers. I am planning on making the pilgrimage to Moab next summer. I don't want to break my D35 on the fist climb. I have a 8.8 out of a 95 Explorer available for $150 with 4.10 gears. I found a D44 out of a 2004 Rubi but the guy who has it wants to sell the salvaged Jeep. Not part it out.

If I add a locker to the rear of my D35 will it hold up to the 33's or should I just get the 8.8?
08-29-2010 07:09 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by Jeepzcb09 View Post
I just picked up a HP D30 on friday and a 8.8 is on the way, my friend has ran that combo on 35's for around 2+ years and beats the **** out of it and its held up fine.

Question would a HP D30 hold up on 37's? Would chromos be a deciding factor if it could or not?
I would DEFINITELY opt for the chromos in that case. I'm not even sure if they would hold up to 37s.....especially if you're locked in the front. Hopefully someone else with experience will chime in......
08-29-2010 06:58 PM
yjkid95 I agree! I have a blast drifting my brothers ranger in the rain with just a limited slip diff. Hes got the opposite of what i want my jeep to be. Its 2wd lowered 4 inches in the front and 5 in the back on 17 inch mustang gt rims with some sticky goodyear tires and hes building up a 5.0 with a t5t6 transmission for it the goal is 450hp...sorry about the rant i just love a good v8 lowriders and v8 jeeps.
08-29-2010 06:55 PM
Jeepzcb09 I just picked up a HP D30 on friday and a 8.8 is on the way, my friend has ran that combo on 35's for around 2+ years and beats the **** out of it and its held up fine.

Question would a HP D30 hold up on 37's? Would chromos be a deciding factor if it could or not?
08-29-2010 05:05 PM
pakman55
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Originally Posted by EdJonesJeeper View Post
if that's the case rear! Snow is better open. Plus drifting locked in rear in an empty snow covered parking lot is highly recommended! Haha desclaimer. Not resposible for drunken actions.
I don't drink

Anybody else agree?
08-29-2010 05:02 PM
EdJonesJeeper
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Originally Posted by pakman55

IF I were to get a locker, it would be a selectable one.
if that's the case rear! Snow is better open. Plus drifting locked in rear in an empty snow covered parking lot is highly recommended! Haha desclaimer. Not resposible for drunken actions.
08-29-2010 04:41 PM
pakman55
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Originally Posted by yjkid95 View Post
Now I'm no Bransford here but, I know full time lockers in the snow will make driving a real challenge. A full time locker in the rear would be a lot easier to control then one up front. Therefore a selectable locker like an ARB air locker would be the best choice for you.(And me since I live in NY) Now I'm sure the real Bransford or Mr.Clifford will correct me if I am wrong.
IF I were to get a locker, it would be a selectable one.
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