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02-13-2013 10:34 AM
RubiCobra
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Originally Posted by Scifideity View Post
This is great info guys, thanks for the input. I've also learned a lesson on searching on wrangler forum. I kept seeing you guys talk TJ's then it dawned on me to look at where I had landed. DoH! I'm in the wrong model forum. lol I have a 2012 JKU so guess I need to hop over into those threads for some additional guidance on how to integrate your suggestions into my JK

Thanks again!

Exactly the same way you would for a TJ but with a different bracket for the compressor and resevior. No difference with a CO2 system.
02-13-2013 10:17 AM
Scifideity This is great info guys, thanks for the input. I've also learned a lesson on searching on wrangler forum. I kept seeing you guys talk TJ's then it dawned on me to look at where I had landed. DoH! I'm in the wrong model forum. lol I have a 2012 JKU so guess I need to hop over into those threads for some additional guidance on how to integrate your suggestions into my JK

Thanks again!
02-13-2013 09:42 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by RubiCobra View Post
Over the years I've seen pretty much every variety of electric OBA in action airing up tires after the trail. VIAIR, ARB, Warn Pwerplant, etc...

I have never been impressed. They all fall well short of what I would consider fast or convienent. Off the top of my head I can think of 5 times I have finished another Jeeper's air up job after I had finished mine and they were still airing up their 2nd tire, looking over with that "Help me out" look.

So that being said there are 2 and only 2 options in my opinion. Menchanically driven (york) compressors; with a reservoir tank for extra points, OR a CO2 system. Both work very very well and make electric OBA compressors tinkle in their panties. And between those two, I'd go with a York every time. The C02 is nice & fast but I hate having to worry about running out of C02 plus the $25 cost of refilling it.

I ran a Kilby york system with viair brand reservoir tank on my old rig and I currently run a Powertank CO2 system. I like them both, they both have their pros and cons. The York compressor edges out the CO2 due to having to refill the tank (which is really no big deal) and the fact that it can fill tires and run air tools all day (quite literally) with the engine at idle. The Powertank can run air tools too, but not all day.

York>CO2>electric (by far)
X2, my feelings exactly. I had a belt-driven York OBA in my previous TJ and for my replacement TJ, I now use a home-grown 10 lb. C02 tank. Both are among the fastest means of refilling tires & I just wouldn't be interested in any of the commonly used electric compressors. It drives me nuts every Sunday morning after a wheeling trip to hear the incessant 30-45 minute drone of typical low-volume electric compressors as they struggle to refill four tires. Then you hear them shut off & think thank God they're done, but then they go back on once they have cooled off enough to finish the job.

ARB and Warn both make a very high volume electric air compressor and if they both weren't so expensive, I might get interested in them. But I can buy the parts & install a junkyard York F210 compressor for significantly less $$$. Same with a C02 tank setup... significantly less $$$. But between the York & C02, I'd take my previous York any day. The C02 is fast & portable but I hate having to worry about if I have enough C02, not to mention the $25 cost of refilling the tank.
02-13-2013 09:36 AM
RubiCobra Over the years I've seen pretty much every variety of electric OBA in action airing up tires after the trail. VIAIR, ARB, Warn Pwerplant, etc...

I have never been impressed. They all fall well short of what I would consider fast or convienent. Off the top of my head I can think of 5 times I have finished another Jeeper's air up job after I had finished mine and they were still airing up their 2nd tire, looking over with that "Help me out" look.

So that being said there are 2 and only 2 options in my opinion. Menchanically driven (york) compressors (with a reservoir tank for extra points) OR a CO2 system. Both work very very well and make electric OBA compressors tinkle in their panties.

I ran a Kilby york system with viair brand reservoir tank on my old rig and I currently run a Powertank CO2 system. I like them both, they both have their pros and cons. The York compressor edges out the CO2 due to having to refill the tank (which is really no big deal) and the fact that it can fill tires and run air tools all day (quite literally) with the engine at idle. The Powertank can run air tools too, but not all day.

York>CO2>electric (by far)
02-13-2013 09:11 AM
Scifideity Hi Everyone,

I've started adding stuff to my Jeep and just began looking into air lockers and compressors.

I came across this one - ARB On Board Twin Air Compressor Kit

The info says

"This compact vehicle mounted compressor has been designed to do everything! Activate your ARB Air Locking Differentials, air up a 35" tire in less than a minute and run air tools. This 100% duty cycle, 6.16 CFM compressor is built to support all of your compressed air needs"

Anyone have any experience with this model?
01-05-2013 04:38 PM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Border Dave View Post
I believe that black wire is the power wire. It uses the metal body of the air compressor and the mounting bracket attached to the jeep as a ground.

I got my ORO bracket from here: https://secure48.mysecureorder.net/o...2hebl7ro6phdc7

I found that link from an older post on another forum. I couldn't actually find it from the ORO website, so I'm not sure if they're still selling them or not.

Oh OK!!! Thanks I did not know that. I figured that the black wire was the ground.. So If i put the bracket back on the compressor and take the black wire and touch it to my car battery I should hear a click? Should I put the bracket/compressor on some metal piece on my engine?
01-05-2013 11:53 AM
K.wag I have the Viair 400H
VIAIR Corporation - 400H Part No. 40042

which doesn't use a reservoir tank as I don't use air tools and wanted compact,
but am more than happy with my viair compressor and it fills up tires fast. I do believe they make great products.

Could probably go with their 400c series designed for use with reservoir? would probably get the job done.
01-05-2013 11:39 AM
Border Dave
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
what is the ORO bracket? How much was it? I just picked up a york 210 and I have the black aka ground wire but I do not see another wire for the power?? Any suggestions other than getting another york? lol THanks.
I believe that black wire is the power wire. It uses the metal body of the air compressor and the mounting bracket attached to the jeep as a ground.

I got my ORO bracket from here: https://secure48.mysecureorder.net/o...2hebl7ro6phdc7

I found that link from an older post on another forum. I couldn't actually find it from the ORO website, so I'm not sure if they're still selling them or not.
01-04-2013 09:58 PM
aTX427
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Originally Posted by DAMSTR8 View Post
Personally would never use an ARB pump. They are only good for lockers. And in talking with the techs at ARB, they say that an air tank is the best way to go. I can say that the guys I know have a hard time airing 33's with that pump. With my setup, I can air from9# to 24# in about four to five minutes.
Who did you speak to at ARB? I spoke to them several times and they insist that the mid size compressor was designed to air up tires. The guy I spoke to recommended their inflation kit since it has a high to hose. I installed the kit and aired my 35's twice this week. Took ain ute and a half per tire from 15 to 25psi. He did say that I should let the compressor cool down if I do more than one set at a time, but so far so good.
01-04-2013 03:59 PM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Border Dave View Post
I have a 2001 and with the Kilby bracket, I could still keep the stock airbox. I am now using the ORO bracket and I still have the stock airbox. Here's an overhead pic of the Kilby bracket. It even has enough room for the oil return line.
what is the ORO bracket? How much was it? I just picked up a york 210 and I have the black aka ground wire but I do not see another wire for the power?? Any suggestions other than getting another york? lol THanks.
01-02-2013 09:36 PM
03rubi I have a York 210 on my Jeep and it's awesome. I can go from 10-28 psi on 35's in about 1 min. at idle. I can also use air tools. You won't regret installing a York.
01-02-2013 08:26 PM
Border Dave I have a 2001 and with the Kilby bracket, I could still keep the stock airbox. I am now using the ORO bracket and I still have the stock airbox. Here's an overhead pic of the Kilby bracket. It even has enough room for the oil return line.
01-02-2013 06:53 PM
tkfx
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
my apologies i did not thoroughly read the first part of the post. any suggestions if i want to keep my stock intake (other than kilbys bracket)? Is there enough room to mount it even with an intake?

Thanks Jerry
Depends on the year of the jeep. The newer Tj's have AC lines running in between the air intake and the alternator, so fitting the york in would require bending some AC lines or taking the black box out.

The older TJ's dont have the AC lines running through there (based off of Jerry's picture) so Im gussing it would be able to fit in there, but it would be TIGHT. But id say the black box had to go.
01-02-2013 06:36 PM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Did you not see the photo of my York & how it was mounted two posts above yours?
my apologies i did not thoroughly read the first part of the post. any suggestions if i want to keep my stock intake (other than kilbys bracket)? Is there enough room to mount it even with an intake?

Thanks Jerry
12-28-2012 09:42 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
where is the york compressor mounted? Where do you get the combo pulley for the alternator? Is there a routing pattern of the belt bc its hard to picture what it is like bc my jeep is put away for a few months.
Did you not see the photo of my York & how it was mounted two posts above yours?
12-28-2012 08:19 PM
1rbotma where is the york compressor mounted? Where do you get the combo pulley for the alternator? Is there a routing pattern of the belt bc its hard to picture what it is like bc my jeep is put away for a few months.
12-28-2012 04:42 AM
tkfx
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
$260 plus tax and shipping for the bracket. If I could get exact dimensions I know a CNC machinist that could cut one out for me.

Pm so I know you're looking for a bracket as well and I can message you if I find something or vice versa.
The way its setup in the picture doesnt use the bracket from kilby(I think). The kilby bracket relocated the alternator and changes your belt pattern. In the picture the alternator isnt moved, all thats done to it is given a new combo pulley for the alternator.
12-28-2012 02:39 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by tkfx View Post
YORK > Electric

I just recently started my York project and got myself a nice running york with a working V-groove clutch for only $50 from a junkyard off a ford. I too was wondering about the bracket idea since 200 is quite a bit for a bracket.

Thanks to Jerry for providing a picture of his last jeeps setup, but thats how I plan on doing mine. Kilby sells combo pulleys that come with a 6 groove pulley and a V-groove connected to each other that replaces the alternator pulley for only $65. No need to move around the alternator and change the belt pattern.

Only problem however is the AC lines. Since it is a 04 my jeep has AC lines going where the York is supposed to go, it will be a tight fit but I can make it work. Also the blackbox has to go.
$260 plus tax and shipping for the bracket. If I could get exact dimensions I know a CNC machinist that could cut one out for me.

Pm so I know you're looking for a bracket as well and I can message you if I find something or vice versa.
12-27-2012 04:25 AM
tkfx
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
Did you make your own bracket? I have a 2000 tj wrangler with ac and I am looking for a bracket for the york. Its just hard for me to spend 150 or 200 on just the bracket from kilbys.. Thanks
YORK > Electric

I just recently started my York project and got myself a nice running york with a working V-groove clutch for only $50 from a junkyard off a ford. I too was wondering about the bracket idea since 200 is quite a bit for a bracket.

Thanks to Jerry for providing a picture of his last jeeps setup, but thats how I plan on doing mine. Kilby sells combo pulleys that come with a 6 groove pulley and a V-groove connected to each other that replaces the alternator pulley for only $65. No need to move around the alternator and change the belt pattern.

Only problem however is the AC lines. Since it is a 04 my jeep has AC lines going where the York is supposed to go, it will be a tight fit but I can make it work. Also the blackbox has to go.
12-27-2012 01:11 AM
03Ruth There's always this option and for the price and the output of this one it's hard to beat. You can even separate the pimp from the tank if you like...
12 Volt 1 5 Gal Air Compressor Puma Mini | eBay
12-26-2012 09:08 AM
Bamadan I have seen tube bumpers made into some really nice air storage tanks. I have a good friend that did his own bumpers out of 4" tubes and had crossover ss tubing to equalize , they held a nice volume of air.
12-26-2012 08:45 AM
Sccafire
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Originally Posted by Six Gun Matt View Post
dang! why couldn't you have York 210s? I have the Kilby Bracket kit (for TJs with factory AC) just sitting and waiting for when I find a good deal on one or I find the time to get out to the junk yard to pick one up.
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
Did you make your own bracket? I have a 2000 tj wrangler with ac and I am looking for a bracket for the york. Its just hard for me to spend 150 or 200 on just the bracket from kilbys.. Thanks
Looks like he had a bracket. Also, was 2 years ago.
12-25-2012 09:33 PM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Six Gun Matt View Post
dang! why couldn't you have York 210s? I have the Kilby Bracket kit (for TJs with factory AC) just sitting and waiting for when I find a good deal on one or I find the time to get out to the junk yard to pick one up.
Did you make your own bracket? I have a 2000 tj wrangler with ac and I am looking for a bracket for the york. Its just hard for me to spend 150 or 200 on just the bracket from kilbys.. Thanks
05-18-2011 05:20 PM
07XMan2Door
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
The most commonly used size C02 tank on the trail is 10 lbs. which means it holds 10 lbs. of C02. They're very common, you can even find them sold on eBay for $90 or so. I just refilled mine for $20 and it was only down to 4 lbs. from 10 lbs. after refilling my four 35" tires 4-5 times. I should have just weighed the tank to know I still had enough C02 for another couple trips.

It's hard to say how low your can go with your Toyos, especially without knowing their size.
Thanks for the info. I'll look for a 10 lb bottle. My tires are 35x12.5.
05-18-2011 05:13 PM
Scoob
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Originally Posted by a_springfield View Post
where would I look for this

::Kilby Enterprises::

And a slower version from another company
Product : Extreme Outback
05-18-2011 04:53 PM
a_springfield
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Originally Posted by Scoob View Post
No, but there was a model that came with a BIG electric motor.
where would I look for this
05-17-2011 06:25 PM
97wrangler-242
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Originally Posted by IndyJeepMan
Just ran across some lost money, so i'm building my air tank setup I've been wanting!
Sweet! Will you have it done b4 this weekend so I can see it?!
05-17-2011 05:40 PM
Scoob
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Originally Posted by a_springfield View Post
is it possible to run a york off a small electric motor?
No, but there was a model that came with a BIG electric motor.
05-17-2011 05:25 PM
a_springfield is it possible to run a york off a small electric motor?
05-17-2011 05:14 PM
IndyJeepMan Just ran across some lost money, so i'm building my air tank setup I've been wanting!
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