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10-02-2010 05:09 PM
McBear As posted earlier,the first question is "what are your intended uses?". If it is home defense the answer might be a bit different than carry and different than plinking cans/paper.

The suggestion that I have recently been provided for women and home or auto defense is the S&W Model 60 in 3" barrel. It is a small frame weapon, brain dead simple to use [the original point and click] and safe. In stress there are no steps to know, remember or think about. Just aim and shoot. I changed from advising a semi-auto after watching loading under stress by folks who keep them either Condition 3 [clip in, nothing in chamber "pipe"] or Condition 4 [clip away from weapon, chamber empty].

That revolver can be loaded with very powerful .357 rounds or .38 rounds. During target practice those .38 rounds will be much nicer on your hand/wrist as you get used to the weapon.
10-02-2010 04:47 PM
coop42 Kimber Pro Series. Crimson trace laser grip..45 ACP
10-02-2010 04:30 PM
IdahoIslander Delta,
The important thing is that its comfortable in your hand and you're able to shoot it. Sparky offered some sound advise.
I think you should find someone local to let you shoot a couple of different guns so you can know how you and the gun respond to each other. Depending on where you are, some gun shops are/can be very accomodating. If you can't find a shop with someone to help you out, visit a gun club. Most gun owners are law abiding upright citizens who would be glad to share their knowledge with you, and not pose a threat to your safety.
Hope you find what you're looking for.

P.S. I bought my wife a .380

P.S.S. when a newsreporter interviewing a US Marine asked him what did he "feel when he shot an enemy?" He ansered "Recoil."
09-30-2010 08:30 PM
skeeter I generally carry a commander size 1911 .45ACP in a Crossbread Supertuck holster.
The 1911, being a single stack, offers a nice thin grip profile which makes it particularly easy to conceal carry and the Supertuck is the most comfortable, most stable holster I've run across. Ugly as sin but works amazingly well even with the shirt tucked in.


But there are times when I don't wear a belt and the 1911 is a bit large and heavy to slip in a pocket. For those times I carry a Bersa Thunder .380 CC. It's small and light enough to carry around in shorts pockets but large enough to give me a strong, confident, controllable grip on the weapon. I don't care for guns with short little grips you can only get a couple fingers on.

.380 is a little weak, it's not just a short 9MM. .380 uses a much lighter and slower projectile offering around 40% to 60% less energy than comparable 9MM loadings. But it's far superior to a sharp stick. If you find a loading that matches and functions in your gun, and you do your part it can be effective in self defense. Research self defense loads carefully and keep in mind what length of barrel you have when comparing performance. Look for ammo that will penetrate 12 inches or more in ballistic gelatin tests out of your length of barrel.


As others have said, Look for a gun you like. Not just looks but feel and function. Look at reviews of that particular gun for any indication it might not be reliable. Once you settle on a gun, practice, practice and more practice.

For those that like to argue about 9MM .40 and .45 ...
09-29-2010 10:19 PM
madrnch my wife lover her 38 special taurus ultralite revolver she is a small woman and has no problem with my larger hand guns but she said she feels comfortable with it she also said she has a fear of auto loaders because she doesn't clean her fire arm often and the trash from her hand bag doesnt harm the revolver hope this helps
09-28-2010 08:30 PM
Joshpeb2 Taurus Pt111 Millenium Pro (3rd generation) Shoots great ,small frame ,double stack mag, and nice price . Have many others but this one fits the bill nicely for concealed or open carry.
09-28-2010 08:03 PM
nick50471
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
Depends ENTIRELY on who's pulling the trigger. I can get great groups with my suppressed P22.

(short range......15m)
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
Ruger MkII will shoot cirlces around the Walter P22...but they are tons of fun with a supressor.
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
nope depends on the weapon. We had three P22's out at one time. I had one, my dad had two. I was selling mine, so my Dad took it, as it was the most accurate (almost as good as my MKII). Kinda like cars. two Mustang GT's can run completely different E/T's with the same driver. we used to call them "wednesday" cars.

one of the others was strangely inconsistent, and the other had a wonky trigger.

I love 22's. primarily b/c I'm cheap, and don't like spending tons on ammo.



me too


You both are correct and incorrect.

The only way to determine if one handgun is more accurate than another is from a ransom rest. Then they must be shot at equal distance and using same ammunition. Let's say your MKIII shoots a 2" group at 25yds in a ransom. It will never shoot better unless you physically change the gun. Not the trigger. Target crown, lap barrel, square up chamber and bolt face.

The shooter comes into play in real time shooting. No shooter can hold a handgun perfectly still like the ransom rest. Everyone has a movement arc. some larger than others. With lots of time and training an experienced shooter can learn to minimize his arc. Lets say your an average shooter and have a movement arc of 3". Now your handgun will shoot no better than a 5" group. 2" is from gun and 3" is from you.

Shooting is an art and every artist needs a good set of brushes.
09-28-2010 01:54 PM
mrcarcrazy
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
Depends ENTIRELY on who's pulling the trigger. I can get great groups with my suppressed P22.

(short range......15m)
nope depends on the weapon. We had three P22's out at one time. I had one, my dad had two. I was selling mine, so my Dad took it, as it was the most accurate (almost as good as my MKII). Kinda like cars. two Mustang GT's can run completely different E/T's with the same driver. we used to call them "wednesday" cars.

one of the others was strangely inconsistent, and the other had a wonky trigger.

I love 22's. primarily b/c I'm cheap, and don't like spending tons on ammo.

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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
I'm going to go ahead and agree with you on that one.
me too
09-28-2010 01:09 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by 30-284 View Post
I do have the biggest pistol! And the most accurate!

Donn
I'm going to go ahead and agree with you on that one.
09-28-2010 11:22 AM
30-284
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
Great, but outta my league

Congrads !!

JIMBO
Jimbo, as long as you like to shoot, there's nothing outta your league.

Donn
09-28-2010 09:58 AM
JIMBOX Great, but outta my league

Congrads !!

JIMBO
09-28-2010 09:53 AM
30-284 Well Probably my most accurate would be my XP that has a 15" Hart ss bbl that I chambered for a 284 win. necked up to 30. cal. have shot groups in the 2.5" range at 600 yds. the next would have to be another XP chambered for the stock 284 win. shoot under .260 at 100 yds. Also got my last antelope in Wyoming with that 284 at 585 yds. measured w/ lrf. Got 5 other xp's chambered for various wildcats but these are the ones I goto for long range.I also built a T/C that I rechambered to a 307 win improved that is almost as good as my XP's.

Donn
09-28-2010 09:42 AM
JIMBOX I didn't want to comment on this thread, but


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Originally Posted by 30-284 View Post
The biggest reason for just sitting back and just copying the mail, 1000's of choices and 1000's of opinions, every one is right, but I do have the biggest pistol! And the most accurate!

Donn
Your statement intrigues me, whats your"biggest" gun and the most accurate?

Curiousity's killing me --

JIMBO
09-28-2010 09:15 AM
30-284
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
Hahaha......you sure know how to clear a thread, Nick!!

These threads always end up in a pissing contest on whose gun is bigger.......

And EVERYONE is a crack shot.
The biggest reason for just sitting back and just copying the mail, 1000's of choices and 1000's of opinions, every one is right, but I do have the biggest pistol! And the most accurate!

Donn
09-27-2010 10:32 PM
N39-W120 Just bought a Ruger GP100, .357..... Can't wait to go play

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09-25-2010 12:08 AM
Serge A. Storms Havent had any experience with that model but cant go wrong with a Sig. I didnt read the entire thread, if somebody hasnt already mentioned it you may want to look at a P239, I love mine. Its still a single stack but in .40 S&W. I have had a few Sigs and have never had any issues. My P220 Carry is one sweet shooter!!
09-25-2010 12:00 AM
Necronomicon
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins

sexy Im thinking about buying one for my xmas gift this year. what cal did you choose? Im thinkin of going with the 9mm p99 ammos cheaper
Mine is a 9mm nice and cheap to shoot and not too punishing if u are shooting a bunch great gun I shoot the cheap stuff from walmart but when I carry it I keep federal hydrashock centerpost hollow points great bullets
09-24-2010 11:43 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by Necronomicon View Post
I keep a p99 as my primary carry weapon it has a viridian green tactical light green laser combo it shoots really nice I love the look too I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a full sized carry gun
sexy Im thinking about buying one for my xmas gift this year. what cal did you choose? Im thinkin of going with the 9mm p99 ammos cheaper
09-24-2010 11:36 PM
Necronomicon
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Originally Posted by TroyD

i agree.

i have a P22. and for a small .22 its does very well. and the walthers do have a nice "feel" to them.

i havent had the opportunity to shoot the P99 yet.
I keep a p99 as my primary carry weapon it has a viridian green tactical light green laser combo it shoots really nice I love the look too I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a full sized carry gun
09-24-2010 09:19 PM
cavediverjc Hahaha......you sure know how to clear a thread, Nick!!

These threads always end up in a pissing contest on whose gun is bigger.......

And EVERYONE is a crack shot.
09-24-2010 04:23 PM
nick50471 There is so much miss information in this thread I don't know where to start.

Delta sounds like you have more knowledge than most of the people who have tried to help you.

Find a local dealer not a box store. Sounds like you have it narrowed down. Just buy one and lots of ammo and don't stop shooting.

Good luck.
09-24-2010 04:06 PM
bobjenkins check out the omega model 100 .22 cal short , I always have mine leg strapped under my dress when I go out to the ball. actually Ive never shot it, its so poorly constructed Im not sure I ever will


My dads got a beretta m9 nicest Ive ever shot

like the others said try as many as you can then pick what you want
09-24-2010 03:42 PM
IndyJeepMan A .380 is better then nothing at all.

IMO .40 is a perfect round. Decent accuracy at ranges, multiple round in the magazine and great stopping power

You can always look at the stubby 1911 .45.

My personal fav would be a Sig p220 but its a full size pistol.
09-24-2010 03:40 PM
TroyD
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
Ruger MkII will shoot cirlces around the Walter P22...but they are tons of fun with a supressor.

i agree.

i have a P22. and for a small .22 its does very well. and the walthers do have a nice "feel" to them.

i havent had the opportunity to shoot the P99 yet.
09-24-2010 03:14 PM
Necronomicon If u want a .380 look at the walther pk .380 it is really nice
09-24-2010 02:45 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by Boosta View Post
This video shows two things.

1. That looks like a nice concealed carry set-up.
2. Black shirts won't print like lighter colored shirts will. He's smart that he shot his video with a black shirt. Makes it look more impressive.
09-24-2010 02:45 PM
Mr. Sinister my father owns a ruger mk ii target pistol. you want to talk about a nice shooting weapon!!
09-24-2010 02:42 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
Ruger MkII will shoot cirlces around the Walter P22...but they are tons of fun with a supressor.
Depends ENTIRELY on who's pulling the trigger. I can get great groups with my suppressed P22.

(short range......15m)
09-24-2010 02:38 PM
mrcarcrazy
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister View Post
ahhh, i see it now once i blow the picture up.
his .22 was a nice, inexpensive gun.
Ruger MkII will shoot cirlces around the Walter P22...but they are tons of fun with a supressor.
09-24-2010 02:20 PM
Mr. Sinister
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Originally Posted by Boosta View Post
That is the 9mm. It is on the slide.
ahhh, i see it now once i blow the picture up.
his .22 was a nice, inexpensive gun.
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