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Today 08:12 PM
WillyWheeler Does anyone have any thoughts on auxiliary lighting mounts for the windshield area? I debating between the front plate mounts and the ones that mount to the side in front of the mirrors.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/12110_604.htm

http://www.quadratec.com/products/12110_6005.htm
Today 07:55 PM
AF04DAD
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Originally Posted by Watermark67 View Post

You'd be wise to check USAA Car Buying Service, purchased a 2015 JKUWW similarly equipped with the dual top option for a comparable price. Your military discount is a bonus I didn't have.
I second the above comment. I got my 2014 JK WW through USAA and used the military discount. You should at least look into. USAA also has good rates on auto loans... Don
Today 05:16 PM
SteelonSteel Yep, I tried the Truecar for an order, I talked to their internet sales gal, got a price and a 4 week til delivery advice. Great, I drove an hour and 20 minutes. Manager not in, salesman tells Jeep isn't taking orders on the 15 yet. (wrong) I'm guessing it was a dipshit salesman or they had no order quota left.

I got close to the same price at a non true car dealer. I find if you walk in with a handful of numbers and talk like you've already done your research they can be quite competitive. Funny I went to the same dealer when I was grabbing catalogs and kicking tires and I got the no way on invoice, they go for a two to three hundred dollars under sticker. I realize they have to try.
Today 04:30 PM
PatrickC23
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Originally Posted by All Terrain JK View Post
Washed and waxed Wild Willys and her garage mate Mama's Freedom.

Attachment 1523418

Going to miss them as we are flying out to San Diego for a week to see our son's graduation from Marine Corps basic training. He will be coming back with us and he has not seen the Willys yet. We rented a mini van, I feel so dirty lol.
Damn what size tires are on the Willys?
Today 04:26 PM
PatrickC23
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Originally Posted by jayh1ll6 View Post
The tail lights were easier to remove than the sidemarkers. The tail lights I took off and taped them so that I would only tint what I wanted tinted. The sidemarkers I had to remove 3 of the rivets in the wheel well and then remove the lens that way. I used a product called VHT Nite-Shades. I only did 2 coats of the spray because I still wanted light to me omitted at night. It worked great and I am very pleased!
Does anyone make a vinyl cutout just for the side marker?
Today 04:23 PM
PatrickC23
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Originally Posted by StarBrite View Post
When I buy a new vehicle, in the original email I send, I tell them straight out that I refuse to come in for a test drive, I don't need to discuss options and I KNOW what I want - here is my list - give me your best price. If they won't give that information, broken down to show vehicle costs plus TTL, I cross their dealership off my list and move on to someone who WILL honor my instructions. If they can't follow the instructions in my original request, how will they handle anything else?

I will admit, I am a when it comes to negotiating a new vehicle purchase. I don't want to waste their time, so I do all my own research, in advance, and come to them with a very specific request. In return for not wanting their time, I expect them to return the favor.

I'm also willing to drive up to 200 miles to find a dealership that will work on my terms. If you're not getting the responses you're looking for from a local dealer, you might want to consider widening your search.

Discounts on dealer stock vs. ordered vehicles depends on the dealership. Lots of dealers wont do better than the TreadLightly 1-2% either way, so that takes care of that. But some dealers are willing to give you a better discount on an ordered vehicle, since they know you want it and will pick it up immediately and avoid any holding costs they would have for that vehicle, which translates into more profit for them. You just have to find the right dealer.

If you tell us where you're from, maybe someone here could direct you to a good dealer close to you.
And that's your right to be a . I come off that way when I buy cars, but last I checked Im paying you. I called around, Teterboro and Rockland were two I can remember that would not speak to me unless I came in, so I crossed them off my list. Unless you live in the boonies, there should be a reasonable option nearby. And with a Jeep, they want your service and its not like youre getting loaners for oil changes, so going a little farther for the right deal should be worth it.

I ended up at Rt4, despite bad reviews from some, I had an excellent experience.

I actually never even paid the Tread Lightly donation, I mentioned 1% under invoice and he matched it for me because I was ready to order that day. Those buying now should try that if they want.

Ive been AWOL Star, but the wife wtills loves "Willy". Just got her some new tires as well.
Today 04:06 PM
Elrepho
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Originally Posted by usklx View Post
Thank you SOOO much for taking the time to break things down and explain. Just a quick question for you in regards, how did the whole process work? Does the same discount apply for vehicles in stock? I tried using the USAA website but didn't find anything too great.

I've been emailing dealerships for their best prices and they're all telling me to come down to chat. I've explained multiple times that I'm ready to buy but I'm busy with work. (I actually already have my loan ready)

Quite frustrating to say the least.

Thanks again!
Not sure how car dealerships make their money and I get the idea it's fairly complicated and tough to really figure out from the outside. I also get the impression (from spending WAAAAY too much time in this forum!) that 'in stock' is not likely to be better priced but I guess that's a case-by-case basis.

Long story short on my journey:
- Visited TrueCar.com and specified the Jeep exactly as I wanted
- Instantly, they give you a TrueCar Guarantee from a number of local dealers supposedly stating the best price available in your area.
- That evening into the next morning received emails from the Internet Sales Department of those dealers. I think it was Teterboro Jeep, Major Jeep and Rockland Jeep.

I already read hundreds of pages on this site and had a general idea of what people considered a 'good price' on a Wrangler. There were also 'group buys' going on in DC, etc where you could get 5.5% below Dealer Invoice. So, I decided what TO ME felt would be a fair price (3-4% below Dealer Invoice). I wasn't focused on getting the LOWEST POSSIBLE price but I didn't want to 'overpay' and for both these points it is a personal opinion/decision.

I chose Rockland Jeep because of proximity and process. Their approach was more 'comfortable' than the other dealers. Also, good reviews on Dealerrater.com, etc. So, one fine Sunday went with my wife and the rest is history. So far, very happy but the sale is not yet completed so remains to be seen! Will let you know once my Jeep arrives!

Hope this answers your questions but keep in mind this is the 'short story'! This is the easiest it has been for me to buy a car but I'm 50+ with many bad experiences to learn from!
Today 09:15 AM
StarBrite
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Originally Posted by usklx View Post
Thank you SOOO much for taking the time to break things down and explain. Just a quick question for you in regards, how did the whole process work? Does the same discount apply for vehicles in stock? I tried using the USAA website but didn't find anything too great.

I've been emailing dealerships for their best prices and they're all telling me to come down to chat. I've explained multiple times that I'm ready to buy but I'm busy with work. (I actually already have my loan ready)

Quite frustrating to say the least.

Thanks again!
When I buy a new vehicle, in the original email I send, I tell them straight out that I refuse to come in for a test drive, I don't need to discuss options and I KNOW what I want - here is my list - give me your best price. If they won't give that information, broken down to show vehicle costs plus TTL, I cross their dealership off my list and move on to someone who WILL honor my instructions. If they can't follow the instructions in my original request, how will they handle anything else?

I will admit, I am a when it comes to negotiating a new vehicle purchase. I don't want to waste their time, so I do all my own research, in advance, and come to them with a very specific request. In return for not wanting their time, I expect them to return the favor.

I'm also willing to drive up to 200 miles to find a dealership that will work on my terms. If you're not getting the responses you're looking for from a local dealer, you might want to consider widening your search.

Discounts on dealer stock vs. ordered vehicles depends on the dealership. Lots of dealers wont do better than the TreadLightly 1-2% either way, so that takes care of that. But some dealers are willing to give you a better discount on an ordered vehicle, since they know you want it and will pick it up immediately and avoid any holding costs they would have for that vehicle, which translates into more profit for them. You just have to find the right dealer.

If you tell us where you're from, maybe someone here could direct you to a good dealer close to you.
Today 07:19 AM
SteelonSteel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boop View Post
Hello everyone! I wasn't planning on making a post like this until this time next year when I had planned on placing an order.

My husband's car bit the dust yesterday morning, moving the purchase of my Jeep up and me scrambling to find a dealer that had what I was wanting and a decent price. I had my heart set on hydro blue but the dealer wouldn't budge on the price.
I was able to find this 2014 Firecracker red and absolutely fell in love when I seen it in person. I'm still in shock that it's mine



Looks great!

I don't know how many times I thought about changing to red (or anvil) for the willys. The black and red looks great together.
Yesterday 10:09 PM
usklx
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Originally Posted by Elrepho View Post
According to my calculations:
JKU Sport
MSRP - $26,495
Dlr Inv - $25,781

WW 24W:
MSRP - $6,100
Dlr Inv - $5,429

Auto Trans:
MSRP - $1,350
Dlr Inv - $1,202

Freedom Top:
MSRP - $995
Dlr Inv - $886

So MSRP is $34,940 and Dealer Inv is $33,398

Join Tread Lightly for $100 which guarantee's AT LEAST 1% under Dealer Invoice less $500 Military Discount = $32,664

I ordered my JKU WW from Rockland County Jeep just north of the Jersey border and got 7.5% off MSRP. Ordered Sept 8 ETA Oct 7

If you get the same deal I did then you're under $32k plus dest, tax, etc. and I have no special connections! Good luck and thanks for your service!
Thank you SOOO much for taking the time to break things down and explain. Just a quick question for you in regards, how did the whole process work? Does the same discount apply for vehicles in stock? I tried using the USAA website but didn't find anything too great.

I've been emailing dealerships for their best prices and they're all telling me to come down to chat. I've explained multiple times that I'm ready to buy but I'm busy with work. (I actually already have my loan ready)

Quite frustrating to say the least.

Thanks again!
Yesterday 07:58 PM
Elrepho
Quote:
Originally Posted by usklx View Post
Hey guys, just wanted a quick opinion on pricing from the NYC area:
2015 WW Wrangler Unlimited, Black
3 piece hard top
24W - Auto, connectivity, power convenience package

33,570 with military discount 33,070. Purchasing through an auto broker that deals with dealers and does the negotiating for me.
According to my calculations:
JKU Sport
MSRP - $26,495
Dlr Inv - $25,781

WW 24W:
MSRP - $6,100
Dlr Inv - $5,429

Auto Trans:
MSRP - $1,350
Dlr Inv - $1,202

Freedom Top:
MSRP - $995
Dlr Inv - $886

So MSRP is $34,940 and Dealer Inv is $33,398

Join Tread Lightly for $100 which guarantee's AT LEAST 1% under Dealer Invoice less $500 Military Discount = $32,664

I ordered my JKU WW from Rockland County Jeep just north of the Jersey border and got 7.5% off MSRP. Ordered Sept 8 ETA Oct 7

If you get the same deal I did then you're under $32k plus dest, tax, etc. and I have no special connections! Good luck and thanks for your service!
Yesterday 07:54 PM
Smullins06
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Originally Posted by drl650 View Post
Hope to drive home a 2014 Billit Silver Willys on Thursday? Getting excited.
Love how hot the Billet has become! It is a great color. Have had mine for six months now, color never gets old.
Yesterday 07:23 PM
drl650 Hope to drive home a 2014 Billit Silver Willys on Thursday? Getting excited.
Yesterday 05:12 PM
firehawk
Willis 2 Door

Hi Usklx, my willis is the shorty (2 door) Have now had the front windows tinted and installed side step, I like the way it came from the
factory and do not expect any futher changes (yea sure) jeep stands for
JUST EMPTY EVERY POCKET!!
Yesterday 12:53 PM
StarBrite
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Originally Posted by lanslide View Post
Uh...???
I think that may have been emoticons he tried to use that aren't supported by this site.
Yesterday 09:57 AM
Billetwillys
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Originally Posted by Fionabalogna View Post
Love my WW at 500miles. Only complaint so far is the head rests. I think they were designed for and by a hunchback. I need to have the seat way back or the headrest way up to be reasonable comfortable for an extended period. I am about 6'1" and have never encountered this in another vehicle. When headrest is way up it still doesn't fit quite right. Maybe I should have slouched more in grade school despite Sister St. Jude's insistence.
Technically headrests are not designed to use to relax with while driving. The guidelines are all Federally regulated. Most new cars have the way too bent headrest
Yesterday 09:43 AM
ChuckE68
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Originally Posted by usklx View Post
Hey guys, just wanted a quick opinion on pricing from the NYC area: 2015 WW Wrangler Unlimited, Black 3 piece hard top 24W - Auto, connectivity, power convenience package 33,570 with military discount 33,070. Purchasing through an auto broker that deals with dealers and does the negotiating for me.
Not sure how that price relates to MSRP, but when I was shopping for my 2014 WW JK, I could not find a dealer in the NYC area willing to budge. Finally ended up going thru Costco to get it at $100 over invoice. Not great compared to many on here, but better than nothing.
Yesterday 07:16 AM
keviper1
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Originally Posted by chargermop View Post
Is it really that much water still? Maybe we could video chat and compare doors and gaskets and see if we can figure out why yours leaks.
I'd be happy to. We may have to wait a few days though. I have night class tomorrow and Wednesday, then the jeep is going back to the dealer on Thursday morning.
Yesterday 07:14 AM
keviper1
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Originally Posted by ATG View Post
I read a comment from someone on here - it could even have been you - saying that they sat in their Jeep while it was raining and took video of the leaking. If it wasn't you, it might be a good idea for you. You could post it for input, and it might prove valuable if you have to pursue legal action.
Yeah that was me. I have a video of it and Jeep has seen the video.

The good thing is my service manager has my back 100%. He's actually the one who told me to send the letter to Chrysler to put them on notice.

I'm honestly not even worried about pursuing Chrysler. I already know I have a case and I'm pretty confident Id win if I pursue the lemon law on this. I like my Jeep though and don't want to give it back unless I have to.
Yesterday 07:03 AM
keviper1
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Originally Posted by lanslide View Post
...totally understandable About how much water are you taking on? Is the floor board filled to a certain level like my YJ was?
Hard to say exactly how much lately. We got a hard drizzle the other day and I had water on my carpet and on the mats.

The problem is the water leaks down the door frame and into the floor. The rest of the water that doesn't make it into the floor goes into the mat.

Below is a pic from a drizzle.



Attachment 1525761

Doesn't look all that bad from the picture, but like I said the carpet gets soaked because most of it makes it under the mat and into the floor. Unfortunately that doesn't show very well in pics cause the carpet is black.
09-29-2014 11:59 PM
Watermark67
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Originally Posted by usklx View Post
Hey guys, just wanted a quick opinion on pricing from the NYC area: 2015 WW Wrangler Unlimited, Black 3 piece hard top 24W - Auto, connectivity, power convenience package 33,570 with military discount 33,070. Purchasing through an auto broker that deals with dealers and does the negotiating for me.
You'd be wise to check USAA Car Buying Service, purchased a 2015 JKUWW similarly equipped with the dual top option for a comparable price. Your military discount is a bonus I didn't have.
09-29-2014 11:34 PM
Fionabalogna Love my WW at 500miles. Only complaint so far is the head rests. I think they were designed for and by a hunchback. I need to have the seat way back or the headrest way up to be reasonable comfortable for an extended period. I am about 6'1" and have never encountered this in another vehicle. When headrest is way up it still doesn't fit quite right. Maybe I should have slouched more in grade school despite Sister St. Jude's insistence.
09-29-2014 09:21 PM
usklx
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Originally Posted by firehawk View Post
HI, My willis came in at 30K $$, with power group, and auto, my not so old jk-s 2012 wrangler got me 21K $$, plus saved me $ 1K on sales tax.
The up grade total was $10K not bad to move up 3 years. My wife thinks
I am crazy, but she did not KILL me. Must be LOVE..
Was yours an unlimited?
09-29-2014 09:14 PM
firehawk
Some numbers

HI, My willis came in at 30K $$, with power group, and auto, my not so old jk-s 2012 wrangler got me 21K $$, plus saved me $ 1K on sales tax.
The up grade total was $10K not bad to move up 3 years. My wife thinks
I am crazy, but she did not KILL me. Must be LOVE..
09-29-2014 08:55 PM
usklx Hey guys, just wanted a quick opinion on pricing from the NYC area:
2015 WW Wrangler Unlimited, Black
3 piece hard top
24W - Auto, connectivity, power convenience package

33,570 with military discount 33,070. Purchasing through an auto broker that deals with dealers and does the negotiating for me.
09-29-2014 08:18 PM
ATG
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Originally Posted by keviper1 View Post
Haha! Well the drain holes are so you can wash out your Jeep if it gets dirty. I don't mean to come off like an ass at all, I'm just frustrated with this whole experience.
I read a comment from someone on here - it could even have been you - saying that they sat in their Jeep while it was raining and took video of the leaking. If it wasn't you, it might be a good idea for you. You could post it for input, and it might prove valuable if you have to pursue legal action.
09-29-2014 08:16 PM
ciarraikerry
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Originally Posted by lanslide View Post
...totally understandable
About how much water are you taking on? Is the floor board filled to a certain level like my YJ was?
He posted pics a few months ago. It was full on wet door and inches in the floor. I had a day like that on three of my doors immediately after putting on the half doors for the first time.
09-29-2014 08:14 PM
chargermop
Quote:
Originally Posted by keviper1 View Post

Haha! Well the drain holes are so you can wash out your Jeep if it gets dirty.

I don't mean to come off like an ass at all, I'm just frustrated with this whole experience.
Is it really that much water still? Maybe we could video chat and compare doors and gaskets and see if we can figure out why yours leaks.
09-29-2014 08:11 PM
lanslide
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Originally Posted by keviper1 View Post
Haha! Well the drain holes are so you can wash out your Jeep if it gets dirty.

I don't mean to come off like an ass at all, I'm just frustrated with this whole experience.
...totally understandable
About how much water are you taking on? Is the floor board filled to a certain level like my YJ was?
09-29-2014 08:04 PM
keviper1
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Originally Posted by lanslide View Post
I'm sure that Jeep would prefer the JK did not leak. There must be a big design challenge associated with this issue...especially for soft tops with soft doors. Jeep even thought ahead and gave us several drain holes for our convenience...LOL
Haha! Well the drain holes are so you can wash out your Jeep if it gets dirty.

I don't mean to come off like an ass at all, I'm just frustrated with this whole experience.
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