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10-15-2010 02:41 PM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by Dex06TJ View Post
So I drive my Jeep as a DD and routinely drive it cross country, Have had to get enough windshield chips dings etc fixed that it drove my insurance up over 100$. I would definitely purchase a system that I could easily install if it would protect the windshield.

Biggest problems would be how well does it stand up over time? Reliability is the number one reason I would question it. Where I live in MD it is a coal mining region and there is alot of crap on the roads and alot of mining vehicles. I'd be interested in buying a kit at cost or something.

I have a 2006 TJ
As mentioned, mine has lasted about 12 months and close to 15k. Other than a few dimples from impacts, I don't have any issues with the film.

Feel free to let me know of any questions.
10-14-2010 03:12 PM
Dex06TJ So I drive my Jeep as a DD and routinely drive it cross country, Have had to get enough windshield chips dings etc fixed that it drove my insurance up over 100$. I would definitely purchase a system that I could easily install if it would protect the windshield.

Biggest problems would be how well does it stand up over time? Reliability is the number one reason I would question it. Where I live in MD it is a coal mining region and there is alot of crap on the roads and alot of mining vehicles. I'd be interested in buying a kit at cost or something.

I have a 2006 TJ
10-14-2010 03:06 PM
Boosta It sounds like a good product. The Jeep market may not be a good market at that price point. For Lotus owners that price may be small, but Jeep owners seem to be Do it Yourselfers and when some parts that improve performance or appearance can be purchased for $100, it would be a tough sell. Except for markets like Colorado or Canada where replacing windshields is a common event.
10-14-2010 02:31 PM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
PM me some info for my installer friend. He's in Georgia...so if he is interested he can contact you.

I'd love for a few guys here to buy it, and give a review...its for selfish reasons. (A/C in Lotus cars SUCK!)

I'd like to know what kind of improvements are coming in the new film, as I want to do this once and be done with it. The lotus really doesn't get out too much, due to it being my baby, and the hospital I work at is under constant contruction thus parking is horrid.

Will previous windshield chips cause bubbles?
The next gen of film is aronud the corner. I already have received samples of it to play with. It's slightly easier to install and even more scratch resistant.

I'd like a few guys here to try it, too. Then we'd get some good reviews from good sources.

Previous chips aren't an issue. At worst, there would be some distortion on top of the chip.

I'll shoot you a PM.
10-14-2010 02:23 PM
mrcarcrazy PM me some info for my installer friend. He's in Georgia...so if he is interested he can contact you.

I'd love for a few guys here to buy it, and give a review...its for selfish reasons. (A/C in Lotus cars SUCK!)

I'd like to know what kind of improvements are coming in the new film, as I want to do this once and be done with it. The lotus really doesn't get out too much, due to it being my baby, and the hospital I work at is under constant contruction thus parking is horrid.

Will previous windshield chips cause bubbles?
10-14-2010 02:07 PM
yj-genral here in tn i have a $100 deductible to replace my windshield on the wrangler, it had one replaced when i bought it and within 8 months of driving it had to replace it because of a crack in front of the driver.

for $100 i might be persuaded to try it because i know that the wrangler windshield is mostly flat and almost straight up and down... bad for rocks...
10-14-2010 01:28 PM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister View Post
I would suspect a price drop once the technology becomes more prevalent. Once the price drops a bit, I'd be interested, especially since it has some UV rejecting properties.
Possibly, but I don't think it will be a major change. Unlike clear bra, this product has a much different distribution method and is more price protected. It'll be interesting to see how the market reacts to the product; I still remember when clear bra arrived back in the 90's.
10-14-2010 01:20 PM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by jeepjones View Post
Get your company to test it up here in Canada where we use a whole bunch of different types of deicing agents across the country province to province in the winter months. In Alberta not only do they use salt/sand but they also use a damaging grade of "pea" sized gravel to "help" peoples tires grip on icy roads, this along with severe windchills and tons of windshield scraping all winter long damages most windshields on a winterly basis, so some will do a windshield up here up to 3+ times a year.
That sounds like Colorado!

Nevertheless, in the interest of scientific research, I believe that I should personally drive my Rubicon to Canada and conduct testing. Can we hit some offroad trails while I'm up?!
10-14-2010 12:32 PM
jeepjones Get your company to test it up here in Canada where we use a whole bunch of different types of deicing agents across the country province to province in the winter months. In Alberta not only do they use salt/sand but they also use a damaging grade of "pea" sized gravel to "help" peoples tires grip on icy roads, this along with severe windchills and tons of windshield scraping all winter long damages most windshields on a winterly basis, so some will do a windshield up here up to 3+ times a year.
10-14-2010 12:07 PM
Mr. Sinister
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Originally Posted by WhiteCSD View Post
You are correct. On windshields that see a ton of abuse, the film will eventually have to be replaced. As mentioned earlier, I've has the film on my Wrangler for about a year, and so far I'm in no need of replacement.

The cost of the film alone is just over $50. Hopefully this will drop over time, but the film is far more complex than clear bra thus more expensive to produce.

And yes, the film blocks over 95% of UV.
I would suspect a price drop once the technology becomes more prevalent. Once the price drops a bit, I'd be interested, especially since it has some UV rejecting properties.
10-14-2010 11:58 AM
hdman1216 When it is broken.
10-14-2010 11:54 AM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister View Post
x2. The film is not going to be a once and done deal either, I'm sure it will have to be replaced every couple of years or so as well. I like the idea, but I probably wouldn't consider it for anything over $50 DIY.

Are there any UV blocking properties to the film?
You are correct. On windshields that see a ton of abuse, the film will eventually have to be replaced. As mentioned earlier, I've has the film on my Wrangler for about a year, and so far I'm in no need of replacement.

The cost of the film alone is just over $50. Hopefully this will drop over time, but the film is far more complex than clear bra thus more expensive to produce.

And yes, the film blocks over 95% of UV.
10-14-2010 11:48 AM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
Well I'm inclined to believe you, b/c that is a well known issue in the Lotus world.

I live in Odessa, TX. I had to drive 12 hrs total to get the windshield replaced...so do you have any in Texas at all?

My friend lives in another state, and here's his reply. (He sells and installs Paint protection films among other things).



So consider me curious. I'd love to hear from some customers. and If you have a installer within a few hrs drive of me I could take the lotus out as a guinea pig.
We have two dealers in the Dallas area; one is brand new that I'm going down to train next weekend. The other is a high-end tint and clear bra shop that has been doing it for a few months.

Your friend is correct. The film was originally developed as blast film for buildings and has now evolved for the auto world. Early versions didn't have a hard outer layer and were easily scratched. The current generation has a hard acrylic out layer and is safe to use with ice scrapers and windshield wipers. Another generation is on the cusp of coming out that promises to be even better. Like window tint and clear bras, the product wasn't perfect when it first arrived and is always going through updates to make it better.
10-14-2010 10:56 AM
Mr. Sinister
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Originally Posted by jgorm View Post
It sounds cool, but you can get a new window installed for ~$250. I can't see paying $100 to have a protective film on it.
x2. The film is not going to be a once and done deal either, I'm sure it will have to be replaced every couple of years or so as well. I like the idea, but I probably wouldn't consider it for anything over $50 DIY.

Are there any UV blocking properties to the film?
10-14-2010 09:02 AM
mrcarcrazy
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Originally Posted by WhiteCSD View Post
We actually do a lot of Lotus windshields, and on the Elise, we do the inside of the rear glass. When the top is off, the aerodynamics are such that rocks often fly over the windshield and then dip inside the passenger compartment and crack the back glass. Lotus windshields and back glass are small and simple installs. Expect around $300 installed.

Where do you live? My main job is setting up a network of dealers. We are the distributors for the Western states, and we've only begun setting up dealers. Chances are, there isn't one where you live... yet.

Well I'm inclined to believe you, b/c that is a well known issue in the Lotus world.

I live in Odessa, TX. I had to drive 12 hrs total to get the windshield replaced...so do you have any in Texas at all?

My friend lives in another state, and here's his reply. (He sells and installs Paint protection films among other things).

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I've heard of the product but never tried it out myself. My friend that installs a lot of paint film claims to have used it, and said the wipers scuffed it all up. He said it was the same as hurricane film that is applied to the glass of buildings (that are subject to hurricanes).
Honestly that is all I know about it, and I'm not sure he used the exact product you mentioned. If you get some great testimonials on the product from real customers, please share them with me. I'm curious about the product myself.
So consider me curious. I'd love to hear from some customers. and If you have a installer within a few hrs drive of me I could take the lotus out as a guinea pig.
10-13-2010 06:23 PM
kmundy10 Sounds like an awesome product. However, in FL, as long as you have full coverage on your vehicle windshield replacement is free. So that might limit your customer base down here.
10-13-2010 03:37 PM
Dan05lj One about every 35k damn gravel trucks
10-13-2010 12:49 PM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
Where do you have installers? (this is purely out of curiosity. as my Lotus' windshield runs ~1300.00 and I don't want to replace it again.)

However, for 500.00 I could replace it again(that was my deductible last time).
We actually do a lot of Lotus windshields, and on the Elise, we do the inside of the rear glass. When the top is off, the aerodynamics are such that rocks often fly over the windshield and then dip inside the passenger compartment and crack the back glass. Lotus windshields and back glass are small and simple installs. Expect around $300 installed.

Where do you live? My main job is setting up a network of dealers. We are the distributors for the Western states, and we've only begun setting up dealers. Chances are, there isn't one where you live... yet.


As for banners and stickers on the windshield, simply put the ClearPlex over the stickers. Your windshield will be safe, your stickers will be safe, and if you ever have to replace the ClearPlex at some point, you won't have to worry about buying more stickers.
10-13-2010 12:04 PM
1991 Wrangler YJ Renegade does sound like a good idea! but, I'm just putting it out there, what about us with windshield banners? I'm guessing the install won't work with our stickers on there? and even if we put the banners on top of the protective film, when we have to replace it the stickers go with it... Personally I love my banners (my wranglerforum.com one especially ) and I wouldn't want to have to take them off, but I guess a cracked windshield necessitates that as well, huh?

so the question is, will the film be fine being installed over our banners? again, just putting it out there!
10-13-2010 11:58 AM
mrcarcrazy Where do you have installers? (this is purely out of curiosity. as my Lotus' windshield runs ~1300.00 and I don't want to replace it again.)

However, for 500.00 I could replace it again(that was my deductible last time).
10-13-2010 11:55 AM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
I've got a buddy in the field. I'll ask his review of the clearplex brand. I know there's tons of brands of films, and lots of claims...But I trust his opinion...I'll update once I hear more.
That'd be great. ClearPlex has been around for a while now, but the previous generations of film were junk: hard to install and scratched very easily. The current and upcoming generation are the first time the film actually lives up to its claims. ClearPlex is a very small part of our company; we mainly specialize in exotic cars (renting, storing, cleaning, transporting, etc). But so far, we've been very impressed.

There are a lot of different films available for different parts of the vehicle, but ClearPlex is the only one with a patent and federal approval to go on the windshield.

A Chinese company attempted to copy the design and sell the product in California, but they were shut down.
10-13-2010 11:52 AM
baddandy A new Jeep windshield installed goes for $140 here. I just got one last week.
10-13-2010 11:52 AM
Walkingstick
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Originally Posted by WhiteCSD

On a Ferrari or Lambo with a huge windshield, it makes quite a difference on heat inside the car. However, on my Wrangler, the windshield is smaller and doesnt allow much sun into the vehicle, so I don't notice much of a difference. Besides, the problem spot on my Wrangler is the hardtop roof; the interior of the roof gets super hot sitting in the sun and bakes the inside of my Wrangler!

It does block over 95% of UVA/B.

The lifespan of the film can vary considerably. Whenever a large rock hits the windshield, it leaves a very small divet in the film. Over time, these divets can become annoying or impair vision if they're clustered in front of the driver. I've had ClearPlex on my Wrangler for almost a year and about 15k miles. So far, I have about half a dozen divets scattered around the windshield, but I'm certainly not in any need of replacing the film.

We use a spring-loaded punch to demonstrate the film. Normally, the spring loaded punch would put a huge bullseye in the glass, or sometimes even cause a large crack. It simulated a rock travelling at about 100mph. With the film, it simply puts a small divet in the ClearPlex, and the glass underneath is untouched.

We've had testing conducted with a pellet and also small rocks at speeds up to 120mph. I'm happy to email the adobe file to any of you! Just shoot me a PM with your email address and I'll send it over.

Adrenaline,
120 degrees doesn't bother the film. My company also has a small fleet of exotic rental cars, and we run them in Arizona sometimes with no problems.

I appreciate the offer to test the film. I've been doing that for about the past year and have had great results!
Can it withstand a burst of .22 rounds?
10-13-2010 11:35 AM
mrcarcrazy I've got a buddy in the field. I'll ask his review of the clearplex brand. I know there's tons of brands of films, and lots of claims...But I trust his opinion...I'll update once I hear more.
10-13-2010 11:29 AM
WhiteCSD
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Originally Posted by FlyinJeeps View Post
I read your website. I'm more interested in the UV protection, anti-glare, and the cooling effect it would have. Does it stop 100% UVA/B? What kind of heat reduction are we talking, 1%, 10%? (on an average hot day..)

Also, it says it can be removed at the end of its usable life, so how long is that for a DD that is never in a garage and driven in a Colorado type environment?

Finally there's an example Treated vs Untreated windshield that shows damage, what was the test, was it equal on both windshields? I'd like to see a video demo, maybe of treated/untreated being shot with a pellet gun?
On a Ferrari or Lambo with a huge windshield, it makes quite a difference on heat inside the car. However, on my Wrangler, the windshield is smaller and doesnt allow much sun into the vehicle, so I don't notice much of a difference. Besides, the problem spot on my Wrangler is the hardtop roof; the interior of the roof gets super hot sitting in the sun and bakes the inside of my Wrangler!

It does block over 95% of UVA/B.

The lifespan of the film can vary considerably. Whenever a large rock hits the windshield, it leaves a very small divet in the film. Over time, these divets can become annoying or impair vision if they're clustered in front of the driver. I've had ClearPlex on my Wrangler for almost a year and about 15k miles. So far, I have about half a dozen divets scattered around the windshield, but I'm certainly not in any need of replacing the film.

We use a spring-loaded punch to demonstrate the film. Normally, the spring loaded punch would put a huge bullseye in the glass, or sometimes even cause a large crack. It simulated a rock travelling at about 100mph. With the film, it simply puts a small divet in the ClearPlex, and the glass underneath is untouched.

We've had testing conducted with a pellet and also small rocks at speeds up to 120mph. I'm happy to email the adobe file to any of you! Just shoot me a PM with your email address and I'll send it over.


Adrenaline,
120 degrees doesn't bother the film. My company also has a small fleet of exotic rental cars, and we run them in Arizona sometimes with no problems.

I appreciate the offer to test the film. I've been doing that for about the past year and have had great results!
10-13-2010 02:01 AM
adrenaline I live in AZ where temperatures are in the 115 -120 some times. Would it hold up to constant heat? Also I would be willing to test for you, but I have a JK do you have a kit for that?
10-13-2010 12:40 AM
FlyinJeeps I read your website. I'm more interested in the UV protection, anti-glare, and the cooling effect it would have. Does it stop 100% UVA/B? What kind of heat reduction are we talking, 1%, 10%? (on an average hot day..)

Also, it says it can be removed at the end of its usable life, so how long is that for a DD that is never in a garage and driven in a Colorado type environment?

Finally there's an example Treated vs Untreated windshield that shows damage, what was the test, was it equal on both windshields? I'd like to see a video demo, maybe of treated/untreated being shot with a pellet gun?
10-12-2010 09:35 PM
WhiteCSD Overall insurance isn't bad here... but windshield coverage is bad because of how many windshields we go through. With all the snow, we always have crap on the roads. Most people go through at least one windshield per year.

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Originally Posted by InfernoGirl View Post
Wow, your insurance is expensive... I'm glad I don't live in CO, I guess...

Good luck with your product.
10-12-2010 07:58 PM
InfernoGirl
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Originally Posted by WhiteCSD View Post
Personally, I was paying just over $5 per month (~$60 per year) for windshield insurance, and I had a $50 deductable.
Wow, your insurance is expensive... I'm glad I don't live in CO, I guess...

Good luck with your product.
10-12-2010 05:42 PM
jgorm It sounds cool, but you can get a new window installed for ~$250. I can't see paying $100 to have a protective film on it.
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