|11-04-2010 10:41 AM|
|jadampowell||just spoke with mbrp and they said it moves over about 2-3 inches...they recomend gettimg their heat shield which mounts in the old holes of the evap canister and goes between the evap canister and the new muffler.....sounds easy enough|
|11-03-2010 07:15 PM|
I didn't relocate my Evap, course I used a flowmaster 40 instead of MBRP (which are great)
I don't know the measurements of the MBRP, but the Flowmaster cat-back is 9" x 13"
|11-03-2010 07:04 PM|
|11-01-2010 03:53 PM|
As for damage, the ignition maps are still pretty conservative. As long as you're not a moron, and run the 93 octane map on 86-7 octane, you'll be fine. Towed with mine, and wheeled the piss out of it- no problems.
Also, if something ever DID happen, you can un-flash it, and bring it in with raised palms and the dumb look on your face
As for wires, I have the Granatelli. No real noticable difference except in color. Maybe 0.25 MPG that I can attribute to them, and NO power gain at all. Top end IS noticably smoother, but I can't say anything for power- Mark W.
|11-01-2010 03:36 PM|
I just did the 91 octane tune from the 87; I'm running Costco 93 octane fuel.
mpgs are up, more than compensating the difference in price. No ping at all and it is just so smooth now in the hills.
I'm thinking of road-tripping to Flashpaq to hug somebody.
|11-01-2010 03:27 PM|
|DelRocini||Anyone try high performance wires? If you can increase the gap to .65 it must run cleaner. Will they work with the superchip flashpaq?|
|11-01-2010 03:17 PM|
That seems to sum up the basic view from a lot of folks: Anything that doesn't work big changes is ineffective (Jet Chips), whereas anything that works big changes is damaging (Flashpaq). Frankly, that makes a good deal of common sense. If a change is simple, harmless, and low cost, the vehicle would probably be designed that way in the first place. I lack the expertise, however, to know if this is truly a good rule of thumb.
|11-01-2010 03:16 PM|
|11-01-2010 02:36 PM|
|Davidsjeep||And about the Banks CAI And Exhaust being pricy I agree, I could have gotten a magna flow for a fraction of the cost but I wanted a straight through exhaust, but not so loud that you could never talk while driving. I'm happy with it.|
|11-01-2010 02:33 PM|
|Davidsjeep||I've talked to several people about the Superchips Flashpaq and they all said it's not worth the damage it could cause to the engine, they said to leave the stock computer alone... anyone know anything bout that?|
|11-01-2010 02:21 PM|
|thaduke2003||^ Hmm... bummer. Check eBay, maybe? I know I'm not giving mine up! Mark W.|
|11-01-2010 02:13 PM|
|phottomatt||Well they do show up on the web site but when I called they did not have any in stock anywhere and the salesman said that they were discontinuing them so IDK. Too bad, they are a good deal.|
|11-01-2010 02:10 PM|
^ They sure do, unless their rep is lying
Edelbrock.com - Exhaust - Trucks
|11-01-2010 02:01 PM|
|11-01-2010 01:58 PM|
|11-01-2010 08:42 AM|
|thaduke2003||^ And again, that's a LOT of money to spend just for a little noise! That's almost a month's worth of payments for both of our JK's! If all you want is a nice sound, the Edelbrock axleback is a solid setup. $189.99, all stainless construction, and high and tight- exits behind the right rear tire. Unlike most exhausts, it won't catch rocks unless you're doing it very wrong Mark W.|
|11-01-2010 07:44 AM|
Last Monday I Got my 2010 Rubicon, Awesome vehicle, Absolutely love it. The day I knew I was for sure going to get this one I ordered a Banks Ram Air CAI, and a Banks Monster Muffler. I got the two for $640 w/ free shipping From XDP Banks Power Stinger System 3.8L ... Installed myself, the CAI took 20 minutes, the exhaust 2 hours. the two together make my Wrangler so much better, it has a little more power, a little better mpg. The feel that you get when you start it up and drive it is great. In Banks own words; The exhaust note is authoritative, yet civil. It is the quietest straight through muffler that I know of, when you're cruising it is not loud at all, when you want to really give it power it sounds great.
I highly recommend getting the Banks Stinger system!!!
|10-31-2010 04:42 PM|
Wow--$20k? That makes a near $50k Wrangler without any other mods at all! My 3.8L is looking better and better, at least for the half decade or so . . . .
Thanks for the input folks, as always.
|10-31-2010 12:30 PM|
YUP, you can sell your engine/tranny for a couple thou !!
Do it yourself for 10/12K--not an easy job, unless you have them doit !!
|10-31-2010 11:58 AM|
|MTH||Swap in a Hemi? As in completely replace the engine? That undoubtedly generates more power, though that's a pretty aggressive mod to fix what ain't broken. Anyone know somebody who's done this that could throw out a ballpark number for what that would be expected to cost? I wonder if there's any market upon which you can sell your old engine to recoup some of the cost.|
|10-31-2010 10:40 AM|
|thaduke2003||^ Swap in a Hemi, re-gear, or live with the 3.8L. Some have gone the supercharging route, but the fuel/ignition controller is still just a piggyback that occasionally doesn't allow full power for no apparent reason. Not exactly the ideal, in my book- Mark W.|
|10-31-2010 10:28 AM|
Well this has been very interesting. So what would be a "forum approved" way to get some more power into a JK? Particularly without substantially increasing the wear on the engine? Jet chips are snake oil, intake/exhaust switches produce only minimal real results, etc. Regearing perhaps?
In truth, with the manual transmission allowing liberal downshifting, I'm happy with what I have (and perhaps should leave well enough alone). I'm just looking for future options if I feel like giving it a boost.
|10-31-2010 09:40 AM|
|Jbird450||I still like the "placebo " affect or whatever you want to call it. I only have the exhaust on now . I got mrbp exhaust at the quadratech tent sale for $200 bucks brand new. I like the growl I get from it. Next is the flashpaq|
|10-30-2010 11:15 PM|
|10-30-2010 05:47 PM|
|thaduke2003||^ Not a fan of moving that much weight further outboard in the vehicle. I like not having all the weight on the right side, but further to the back is not good for handling. Not my style- Mark W.|
|10-30-2010 04:11 PM|
Very sweet but very very very pricey. I gotta hit the lotto.
Oh. Don't do an intake unless you put a Hemi in first.
Get a nice snorkel or reagear or something.
|10-30-2010 02:43 PM|
|firstname.lastname@example.org||Intake and exhaust will give you more power....if you add headers and a dyno tune. Otherwise if you want a faster jeep just take the doors, top, and backseat out. zoom|
|10-30-2010 01:02 PM|
^ That, stick and jbird, is called, as ncossey said, the placebo effect. DYNO tests (not butt dyno, but Mustang dyno) have shown that the gains are small enough with an intake and exhaust on a standard 3.8L to be inconclusive. There is a torque loss down low (under 3,500 RPM), and maybe 1-4 WHP gain up top (over 4,500 RPM). NOT worth the $500+ you'll spend!
As for improved fuel economy, MAYBE 1/4 MPG. Again, NOT worth the $500+.
The ONLY reason to change out the exhaust is to gain clearance. That's why I did mine. As for the intake, only if you're running a snorkel Mark W.
|10-30-2010 12:05 PM|
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