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06-01-2007 05:30 PM
Iquois Well, I have a 8.8 sitting in the garage.......it's ready for me. Hope I'm ready for it!!
05-31-2007 07:42 PM
Hackle I am glad we could all help, it sounds like you have it all set to go at this point. I will help where I can but it has been 5 years since I have installed an 8.8 and that was not even mine I am sure this group will have plenty of info to help you along.
05-31-2007 06:10 PM
Iquois Thanks guys!! You have been a hugh help.
I have found a complete rear end locally. It is a 8.8 with disc brakes, 3.73 gearing and a 45 day warranty. It will be delivered to my house tomorrow. Total price including delivery is $170.

I have ordered the 8.8 conversion kit for $137 and the pinion flange for $40 thru M.O.R.E .

Hopefully this time next week, I will have rear end in and YJ on the road. I am out of town this weekend, so it'll be Monday before I can start tearing old out.

I'm sure when I start, I'll have ?'s, so please check out this thread occasionally..........please
05-31-2007 05:56 PM
Hackle Joe @ Absolute has that adaptor in stock for about the same price or cheaper. As far as an 8 or 6 cyl it does not matter.
05-31-2007 05:21 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by Iquois View Post
What is the part number for the adapter?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...QQcmdZViewItem

This is what you are looking for. However I'm sure there are cheaper places to get it than on Ebay. I don't know what they cost as the last time I did a swap the guy had a new Dshaft built with that flange on it already.
05-31-2007 04:18 PM
Iquois
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Originally Posted by boomer View Post
i think you'll need an adaptor to couple the ford flange type rear to the driveshaft also....i needed one anyway for my setup.
What is the part number for the adapter?
05-31-2007 11:35 AM
Iquois does it make any difference if I get an axle from a 8 or 6 cylinder explorer?
05-30-2007 12:04 AM
boomer
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Originally Posted by Iquois View Post
and yet another ?... will I run into any drive shaft issues on the back. I had read that it will be too long with the 8.8
i think you'll need an adaptor to couple the ford flange type rear to the driveshaft also....i needed one anyway for my setup.
05-29-2007 11:52 PM
Hackle You may need to have it shortened but wait till it installed to measure it. Did you order perches? You are still SUA so don't go for the fancy ones the cheap ones are fine. You will need to set your pinion angle then weld in the perches. I assume you have a stock slip yoke drive shaft and to be honest it has been so long since I've had one I don't remember how to set it.
Read up on the web as it sound hard but is easy to set correctly. HTH
05-29-2007 06:20 PM
Iquois and yet another ?... will I run into any drive shaft issues on the back. I had read that it will be too long with the 8.8
05-29-2007 05:28 PM
Iquois
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Nope not at all. The only thing that needs to match between your front and rear axles is the gear ratio. Everything is independent of each other. With the Dana 30/Ford 8.8 setup you can safely run 35" tires on your rig.
Ya Hew!!!

I guess I'll go with the $300 from Texas shipped.....not sure of ratio, but what the hell. I'll figure that out when I get it. I'm tired of f$@king with it.
05-29-2007 05:27 PM
Iquois Picked up jeep today and brought it home.......$242 and nothing was fixed!! It is worse than when I took it. I'll blame that on further wear and tear. Charge was for finding problem........$47.94 for just taking off differential cover and putting it back on. No new gasket, just the labor!!!

At least its home and the swap can begin....
05-29-2007 05:27 PM
1BLKJP
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Since the front is a 27 spline and the rear is an 31 spline, I thinking that would be a problem for me.....right?
Nope not at all. The only thing that needs to match between your front and rear axles is the gear ratio. Everything is independent of each other. With the Dana 30/Ford 8.8 setup you can safely run 35" tires on your rig.
05-29-2007 04:13 PM
Iquois Since the front is a 27 spline and the rear is an 31 spline, I thinking that would be a problem for me.....right?
05-29-2007 03:56 PM
1BLKJP If the 300 one is complete then I'd go with that if it were me. There's not a huge difference in the mileage there and no matter what gearing is in it you are going to have to regear your front.
05-29-2007 03:44 PM
Iquois Just got a price on a 96 explorer rear end with full set up as far as brakesand 3.55 gearing...shipped to my home for $400. Dude said he would be able to send one with 50,000 - 70,000 miles. It has a 45 day warranty

The $300 rear end I mentioned earlier is complete with disc brakes and has 82,000 miles on it
05-29-2007 03:03 PM
Hackle Is the $300 dollar one complete? If not you will send the differnece in the two building the cheaper one. Make sure you get the e-brake cables with it as they will work in your Jeep with a little work.
05-29-2007 08:07 AM
Iquois Also found a complete rear assembly w/brakes for $660 shipped from Alabama. Has a 3.55 ratio, so figure another $200 for front re-gearing...what cha think? It has a 30 day warranty from day of delivery.
05-28-2007 11:56 PM
1BLKJP Yeah, 300 is a good deal shipped to your door. Much better than having to pull one yourself for 250 or so.

Oh, and your front Dana 30 has 27 spline shafts stock.
05-28-2007 11:26 PM
boomer
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What would be a fair price for me to expect to pay for a 96 Explorer 8.8? I have been made and offer on one for $300/shipped! Not sure yet about gearing/milage. Going to call tomorrow for more info....
well....from what i've seen and heard...300 bucks is a pretty good price for an 8.8. i paid 300 for mine out of a '98 exploder. the fellow i bought it off was nice enough to pull it (pull everything! even the emergency brake cable was intact and in working order!) and deliver it to my door.
05-28-2007 09:16 PM
Iquois
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Originally Posted by Hackle View Post
$2000 are you kidding? Most people give away the old D35 when they up grade. Swapping an axle is not hard at all you can do it yourself with little trouble. The 8.8 is a great swap you will spend more time finding one then you will installing it and finding them at the junk yards is easy.
What would be a fair price for me to expect to pay for a 96 Explorer 8.8? I have been made and offer on one for $300/shipped! Not sure yet about gearing/milage. Going to call tomorrow for more info....
05-28-2007 05:14 PM
Hackle $2000 are you kidding? Most people give away the old D35 when they up grade. Swapping an axle is not hard at all you can do it yourself with little trouble. The 8.8 is a great swap you will spend more time finding one then you will installing it and finding them at the junk yards is easy.
05-28-2007 10:38 AM
Iquois
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Originally Posted by Absolute Offroad View Post
Good Luck, and remember, WE DO THIS FOR FUN!!!!!


Joe

Just a little discouraged. Weather is way too nice for YJ to be sitting in garage. I have the money for repairs, just think for the $2 grand I have been priced on installing another D35, I can do much better for the money. Would like to get moving in right direction so I can enjoy summer!!

BTW, what spline is in the front differential?
05-27-2007 11:42 PM
Absolute Offroad
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Originally Posted by Iquois View Post
Any 8.8 ford rear assembly will fit, correct?
No. You want to look for an axle out of a 95-98 Ford Explorer with disc brakes. They will have either 3.73's or 4.10 gears. It also could have either a Trac-Loc or an open carrier. Try to stay away from other 8.8's out of other Ford vehicles. The width wont be correct and you will have Numerous other problems. Also if you happen to find a DRUM brake Explorer 8.8, most likely it will have 28 spline axle shafts in it. All of the Disc 8.8's will have 31 spline axles. And YES, it will for the most part, bolt right up. You will need a 8.8 1310 pinion flange to put on your rear driveshaft, but those are about 40 bucks, and ALWAYS in stock @ Absolute Ofroad.......

Good Luck, and remember, WE DO THIS FOR FUN!!!!!


Joe
05-27-2007 11:37 PM
1BLKJP Yes it will however you are going to want to make sure you get one from a 96 and up Explorer. They are all 31 spline while the 8.8's that they put in the Ranger and Mustang are 28 spline.
05-27-2007 10:54 PM
Iquois Any 8.8 ford rear assembly will fit, correct?
05-27-2007 10:43 PM
Iquois DAMN!!! I need a sharp object to dive on!!!
05-26-2007 08:22 PM
Hackle You can always do the rear change over and leave the front drive shaft out until you can regear it. If you keep the jeep you will gear it at some time, this way you only pay for the front gears.
05-26-2007 12:51 PM
1BLKJP Ah, with you being at 3.07 then you are going to have a tougher time doing a new rear axle economically compared to fixing your 35. 8.8's come in 3.73 or 4.11 so you'd have to re-gear your front to match.
05-26-2007 09:03 AM
Iquois
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Iquois, What gear ratio are you running in you rig right now?

For a YJ an 8.8 is VERY simple to install. It's just a matter of cutting off the stock spring perches and shock mounts and welding on new ones that fit your setup.
a 3.07 (No wonder i never use fifth gear!!)
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