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11-17-2010 01:29 PM
FlyinJeeps It's funny after reading these threads on snow driving I actually got a little concerned and talked to some jeep buddies, they all assured me mud tires handle better than all seasons in the snow. For me that was enough to hear, they were laughing and pointing out I've been driving a mustang in Canadian winters for 10+ years, the jeep couldn't be any worse then that!
11-16-2010 11:41 PM
Matcheen
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc View Post
So you get a lot of snow down there in Arkansas?
I see 1/2 an inch in the forcast for January
11-15-2010 10:44 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by swingtail82 View Post
my biggest suggestion is to watch out for idiots in z71's, f-150's, and rams....slow down, and leave your jeep @ home and drive a small front wheel drive car if you can. my wife's MINI feels pretty much the same on all surfaces, and it's got 240whp. I met a guy from Canada and he said 4-wheel drive translates to 4-wheel slide in the hands of most people, and after last winter I agree with him completely!! I took a 50 mile trip through snow and mostly ice, was passed by many boneheads in block lifted trucks and soon passed them back up when they ended up nose down in a ditch or the median. I deal with ice every winter and can honestly say that 4-wheel drive is not necessary and more times than none will get you into more trouble than 2-wheel drive
So you get a lot of snow down there in Arkansas?
11-15-2010 09:40 PM
Matcheen Somebody has to say it. Drive the way you feel comfortable...if it's slow, drive slow....if it's fast, drive fast...if it's in 4wd or 2wd you decide.

I've spun out fwd, awd, rwd, and 4wd vehicles on all sorts of roads...some my fault, some due to black ice, and some b/c some jacka$$ decided to speed past me, pull in front of me and put on his/her brakes...a$$ h*le!

Go play and get comfortable with your Jeep in the wet, snow, ice, wet snow, freezing rain, etc. and then let us all know how you do.

Oh ya, btw, the number one rule is "DON'T BE AFRAID! NEVER BE AFRAID!!!" Fear is you worst enemy when behind the wheel. Relax your grip on the steering wheel and enjoy a nice winter day.
11-15-2010 09:04 PM
98tj25l
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Originally Posted by AirDWN View Post
The best advice I can give ya:

STAY OUT OF CLEVELAND DURING THE WINTER!!!

Those geniuses up there actually drive faster in the snow than in normal conditions.
Guilty! But it's only because we're trying to get out of Cleveland faster!
11-15-2010 08:38 PM
swingtail82 my biggest suggestion is to watch out for idiots in z71's, f-150's, and rams....slow down, and leave your jeep @ home and drive a small front wheel drive car if you can. my wife's MINI feels pretty much the same on all surfaces, and it's got 240whp. I met a guy from Canada and he said 4-wheel drive translates to 4-wheel slide in the hands of most people, and after last winter I agree with him completely!! I took a 50 mile trip through snow and mostly ice, was passed by many boneheads in block lifted trucks and soon passed them back up when they ended up nose down in a ditch or the median. I deal with ice every winter and can honestly say that 4-wheel drive is not necessary and more times than none will get you into more trouble than 2-wheel drive
11-15-2010 08:19 PM
gooseofdeuce The worst thing you can do in a skid is hit the brakes, just let off the gass put both feet on the floor board, and turn into the skid. If back end swinging to the right turn to the right, if going left turn left. If you are stating to swap ends in 2wd and you hit the gas you will increase the rate at which you swap ends. If you don't believe me ask a cop/deputy/officer/trooper, i'm sure most academy's have skid pads. Our first run through they told us to hit the gas and it's amazing at how much worse it makes the skid, plus in a controlled environment it's a blast to send a crown vic in a couple of circles. I've put this to practice too many times to admit while responding to emergencies in the rain and a couple times out playing in the jeep. If you can find a big enough smooth mud field, you'll get some good summer time practice also.
11-15-2010 04:20 PM
toshpate one thing I noticed is the back end does slide around. I smacked a(curving overpass) bridge with my tires. thank goodness for oversize tires or I would have had some damage to the tub... scary and yes I was going slow. just slid and I let it just slide and I stopped next to the bridge. didnt want to cross back across traffic or potentially flip(done that too)
11-15-2010 04:05 PM
AKantipodean In a pinch a few dabs of klister to the tires will get you traction on a seemingly frictionless surface. But again everything every one else has said should cover it.
11-15-2010 01:45 PM
Dockman4 I'm just the opposite...I go out of my way to stop and help if I see an Obama Sticker. Or any military, veteran, or parent of military stickers. Also anybody with any Union sticker.
11-15-2010 01:19 PM
Ted_D
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Originally Posted by Peepers View Post
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Always help a stranded motorist out if you can.
That is something I used to always do but since they started making Obama stickers I dont stop as much
11-15-2010 11:58 AM
jcf I had never driven in the snow untill I moved to the US 10 years ago. I hate it, I do ok but it is scary to see all the rv's & trucks etc' skidded off the side of the road.Luckily we don't have a lot os snow here in Moab so I go out in it every chance I get to practice because I think the more you drive in it the better at it you will become.
11-15-2010 10:36 AM
Peepers Following distance... lots of it.

Keep a look out for idiots...

always have warm clothes, or even a change of clothes in case you get stuck and try to dig your self out, but cant. wet clothes will kill ya faster.

Carry a tow strap incase you or someone else needs it.

a shovel. carry one.

Always help a stranded motorist out if you can.
11-15-2010 10:14 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d View Post
One thing to keep in mind with this statement...when placing weight inside the vehicle, make sure you place it ABOVE or slightly in front of the rear axle. If you place it clear against the tailgate/hatch, you'll increase your likelihood of spinning the rear end around when that weight gets plenty of momentum on a turn, although with our Jeeps being so short, it probably won't be as big of an issue as it would be on say, a long bed pickup.

And don't forget to secure it for forward motion...that stuff will turn into missiles in a collision.
Really? I like to add about 7 or 8 bags of kitty litter to MY ROOF for driving in the snow. I don't bother strapping them down either. I figure the higher my center of gravity the better.
11-15-2010 09:56 AM
the beep mechanic The only thing I can add to this:turn your phone off. You need to focus on driving.
11-11-2010 05:53 PM
MikeMTJ
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Originally Posted by AirDWN View Post
The best advice I can give ya:

STAY OUT OF CLEVELAND DURING THE WINTER!!!

Those geniuses up there actually drive faster in the snow than in normal conditions.
I wish I could stay out of cleveland. I live there

Ha, it's actually not a bad place if you know where not to go.

Anywho, I always try to brake about 5 times sooner than I normally would. I would say what else I do, but everyone else has pretty much said it.

SALT WILL EAT YOU JEEP.
Try to do as much rust prevention as possible. I don't know about where you live, but Northeast Ohio throws salt around like it's nobody's business.
11-11-2010 05:44 PM
jasonwrangler slow down earlier when going down hill. youll be amazed how little grip when going down hill on snow. push the brake pedal rather than slam on it, also manual ABS if you trying to avoid an object.
11-11-2010 05:40 PM
monkeee2002
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Originally Posted by john's ct jeep View Post
my wife slid onto someones front lawn with her olds cutlass a few years ago. ever since that happened she is skidish when it comes to driving in snow.

Wait...was that intended, or just a typo?
11-11-2010 05:28 PM
OlYellerTJ Lots of good advice I agree with, much backed by personal experience, given above.

SLOW down.
Glass pedals, ALL of them, especially accelerating/down-shifting on a curve...
Extra weight over/in front of the rear axle.
Plan your approach into turns.
Be wary passing through areas of transition: shaded, coming out of tunnels/underpasses or other areas prone to drifted snow/slush, looks "wet"-black ice.

4WD doesn't grant one invincibility, it merely allows one to tread lightly where some others can't. OTOH, it can get ya stuck REALLY good, and don't ask me how I know...
11-11-2010 08:57 AM
john's ct jeep my wife slid onto someones front lawn with her olds cutlass a few years ago. ever since that happened she is skidish when it comes to driving in snow.

i took her to a big empty parking lot right after a storm. set her and her new jeep in four wheel high dead center. told her to drive around. first slow than as she realized that she was not sliding around and began to relax having a good time. that when the security guard came out screaming we had to get out. she drove straight threw the lot onto the grassy area with about 2 foot of snow and right threw the snowbank onto the road.

her reaction was "whoa now that was cool. did you see the snow blow out when we hit the bank?"
11-11-2010 08:03 AM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by toxictv View Post
I'd like to hear some tips on driving in the snow/ice from some of the experienced Jeepers
stay in 2wd and apply liberal amounts of throttle. make sure to turn out of the skid. if you slide it into 4wd high, you can drift sideways as you turn out of the skid.
11-11-2010 08:01 AM
s3nt3nc3d
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Originally Posted by redneckpilot View Post
Slow down is the big one. Play in a parking lot and learn how its going to handle in the snow, and how to recover from a slide. Get good at it. Then put weight in the back of the jeep. Sandbags, kitty litter, etc. This way you have traction, and sand for when you do get stuck.
One thing to keep in mind with this statement...when placing weight inside the vehicle, make sure you place it ABOVE or slightly in front of the rear axle. If you place it clear against the tailgate/hatch, you'll increase your likelihood of spinning the rear end around when that weight gets plenty of momentum on a turn, although with our Jeeps being so short, it probably won't be as big of an issue as it would be on say, a long bed pickup.

And don't forget to secure it for forward motion...that stuff will turn into missiles in a collision.
11-11-2010 01:28 AM
redneckpilot Slow down is the big one. Play in a parking lot and learn how its going to handle in the snow, and how to recover from a slide. Get good at it. Then put weight in the back of the jeep. Sandbags, kitty litter, etc. This way you have traction, and sand for when you do get stuck.
10-27-2010 12:36 PM
AirDWN
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Originally Posted by john's ct jeep View Post
SLOW is the word. take off slow, drive slow, and brake easy.

always watch out for the idiots out there let them go by. you will usually pass them by down the road. wavy if you like they will be calling aaa for a tow out
The best advice I can give ya:

STAY OUT OF CLEVELAND DURING THE WINTER!!!

Those geniuses up there actually drive faster in the snow than in normal conditions.
10-27-2010 11:40 AM
john's ct jeep SLOW is the word. take off slow, drive slow, and brake easy.

always watch out for the idiots out there let them go by. you will usually pass them by down the road. wavy if you like they will be calling aaa for a tow out
10-27-2010 08:57 AM
jp2611 Lots of true and good statements from my experience-only thing missing (in my opinion) you have 4wd use it! Not only is it good for deep stuff, but also for slippery-even if just started snowing. Jeeps being rear wheel drive and light act like a very light 2wd pickup if not in 4wd. I have used it in the rain when in a hurry-I know needed new tires already, and maybe didn't help that much but didn't sit and spin the tires. Good Luck
10-27-2010 08:32 AM
s3nt3nc3d Everyone above offers great advice from what I can tell without my contacts in (hunched over the keyboard trying to read--special thanks to my roommate for being in the shower when I'm sposed to be getting ready for work lol). The one thing I'd like to stress is with our short wheelbase, be EXTRA slow and gentle on turns. The ass end on the Jeep starts to come around MUCH easier than on a car or a pickup truck...and if you lose traction on a curve in the road going too fast, that's the easiest way to roll your vehicle. Also if you drive a 5 speed...don't downshift too hard or it can kick the ass end out as well. Speaking from experience there...I was rounding a corner in the driveway at work going roughly 10-15 mph and downshifted from 3rd to 2nd and it turned into a slow motion sideways skid before I slid sideways into the grass. Glad I had removed the tree that was there earlier that summer...lol

Just remember that even though you're driving a 4wd Jeep...4wd vehicles aren't invincible and Jeeps CAN get stuck too.

Oh and if you're not driving through deep snow, keeping your tires properly inflated is better than airing down. You want to contact the road in normal snow conditions which a properly inflated tire will do best, but if the snow is so deep that you can't get down to the road, airing down will increase your footprint on the snow so you will ride more on top of it.
10-27-2010 07:10 AM
Mr. Sinister A few years ago, my wife and I were heading up to Philly to see The Pogues. It was the night before St. Patrick's day. Huge (for the area) snowstorm happening. I had a Subaru Legacy GT with AWD, so I said "We're going!!"
We were on 295 doing about 40 and some mouth breather in a econobox beater comes sailing past us, doing at least 20mph faster than everyone else. He gets about 100 yards in front of our little pack of cars and loses it. Two complete spins in the middle of 295 and through some miracle (angels really do look out for stupid people) misses the concrete divider on one side and the guardrail on the other. He comes to a stop facing the wrong way on the inside shoulder. I lay on my horn, as does everyone else as we pass him.
So what does he do? Gets it going in the right direction and sails past us AGAIN at about 20mph faster than everyone else.
Stupidity should hurt, that's all I'm saying.

On topic, SLOW DOWN. Take your time. Use your throttle and brakes like the pedals are made of glass. Plan your turns ahead of time. I have not once gotten stuck or slid off the road (unintentionally ) in the snow because I take my time. You will still get people that feel the need to fly by you and haul butt everywhere in the snow, but I've never been one to be in a big hurry. Outside of major highways, I'm rarely more than 5mp over the limit. It's amazing how angry it makes some people.
Screw 'em.
10-27-2010 06:38 AM
AirDWN
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Originally Posted by toxictv View Post
Thanks for all the advice! I will definitely take Black Betty to an empty lot the first time it snows and give er a good go round!
Make sure you do it where the cops don't frequent. Some cops are known to wait for you to finish goofing off, then when you get through goofing off they get you as you're coming out of the parking lot. Not that I've been in a situation like that before but I've seen cops wait for guys like that.
10-26-2010 10:18 PM
toxictv Thanks for all the advice! I will definitely take Black Betty to an empty lot the first time it snows and give er a good go round!
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