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12-09-2010 12:07 AM
FlyinJeeps
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Originally Posted by kate.5 View Post
Hey-
I have had my 2009 stock Jeep since it was brand new last August. Ive been the only driver and it has never been off-roading (yet) or abused in any way. I have the oil changed with synthetic every 5k, do all of the usual things that need to be done. 3 times now, I have hit a rough patch of highway; meaning the road is still tar but in need of a little attention, and my Jeep started shaking so bad I could barely control it. The first time it happened I thought I had a flat tire. Not the case. Today it happened and I literally almost crashed. The wheel almost locks up and I can barely steer it. I have made an appointment with the dealership for tomorrow...but I was just wondering if anyone else has had this happen?
Hey Kate.5 can we get an update on the what the dealer said?
12-08-2010 10:51 PM
marshrat I have a stock 2007 Wrangler X with 255 75 17 Wranglers on it, no modifications. I have instances of death wobble last fall - so bad it scared the heck out of me. The Jeep dealer near me said that my tires needed to be replaced, the shocks might be worn, blah blah blah. Finally the looked and found a technical service bulletin and put a heavy duty stabilizer package on it. Haven't had it happen since then but makes me just want to get rid of it. I drive it because I always wanted a real Jeep and I drive it 30,000+ miles/year for a sales job. Starting to question it though...
11-27-2010 12:09 AM
Badgerking
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Originally Posted by yomondo
Sounds like death wobble to me, but I've never heard of it on a stock Jeep. First thing I'd check is the bolt on the front trackbar axle mount. Seems to be the most common from what I've seen and heard. But by the time it becomes death wobble, it's because that hole has already gotten wallowed out. As soon as I hear the clunking sound of the trackbar moving, I get under there and tighten up that bolt again to try and prolong the inevitable wallowing out of that hole.
I second that. Those track bar mounts are flimsy and prone to breaking too. When your track bar is lose, your jeep will be undriveable on bad pavement, maybe even good pavement. It is definitely not safe to drive either way.

Here's why I say this... Right after I finished lifting mine (I know yours isn't lifted) I drove home from my friend's work shop. All through town it was fine, then I hit a rough patch of road and I almost wet myself the vibration was so bad. Anyway, after crawling under there I found the track bar lose and with a few minutes of torquing it down (I carry tools) was on my way again at 70mph+. So just crawl under there and grab it and give it some real hard jerks at the ends. If it is lose, tighten up. Moral to the story... Check ALL of your bolts even when you're dead tired!
11-24-2010 10:40 AM
yomondo Sounds like death wobble to me, but I've never heard of it on a stock Jeep. First thing I'd check is the bolt on the front trackbar axle mount. Seems to be the most common from what I've seen and heard. But by the time it becomes death wobble, it's because that hole has already gotten wallowed out. As soon as I hear the clunking sound of the trackbar moving, I get under there and tighten up that bolt again to try and prolong the inevitable wallowing out of that hole.
11-24-2010 10:16 AM
Dogzilla How did it go, Kate? Did they find anything?
11-23-2010 08:45 AM
kate.5
Thank you...

Thank you so much for all the advice. When they call me today now I wont sound like a complete idiot!
11-23-2010 08:44 AM
Hilldweller
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Originally Posted by kate.5 View Post
Ok, I just read the attached information on the "Death Wobble" and watched the video at the end and that is EXACTLY what my Jeep is doing! Im just wondering how this can happen though, because my Jeep is completely stock, I havent done anything to it, so all of the parts mentioned were all put together at the time the car was made. It says that even one instance of the "death wobble" can cause real damage to the car. How will I know if its been damaged? The wobble has happened to me about 5 times now. Its at the dealership right now. It is still under warranty. Now Im nervous. I LOVE that car!
First of all, don't be nervous; that doesn't help. It takes your energy away, causes irrational thinking, and wrinkles your cute little nose.

Second, it's not a car. Calling a Jeep a car can and will cause death wobble as it shudders in protest.
A Jeep is a Jeep. A Prius is a car.

Third, if it's stock, it's much easier for a competent mechanic to find the root cause of death wobble. There are any number of things that can cause it independently, or several things that can cause it in a harmonious symbiotic way.
Bushings, shocks, loose or missing bolts, bearings, ad nauseam.

Do you trust your dealership? If you do, convey that to them and tell them that you're putting your faith in them to fix your beloved Jeep. That your online family is watching and that we collectively are supporting you/them.
Take pictures. Cry a little. Hug the service manager.

Subtle but intense pressure...
11-23-2010 08:23 AM
Dogzilla I know the feeling exactly. My TJ had it BAD. It must have done it 30 or 40 times before we figured it out. It turns out that it was the wheel spacers/adapters that were needed to put JK wheels onto my TJ. The shop had used the wrong ones. Grrrrr.

Since we replaced those, it's been fine.....and there doesn't to be any residual damage. Also, at the same time, I had the steering box "tightened". Does your steering wheel have any loose play in it? Even a few inches could make a big difference.

Maybe the dealer will find the problem for ya today. Maybe mention the steering box to them.
11-23-2010 08:12 AM
kate.5 Ok, I just read the attached information on the "Death Wobble" and watched the video at the end and that is EXACTLY what my Jeep is doing! Im just wondering how this can happen though, because my Jeep is completely stock, I havent done anything to it, so all of the parts mentioned were all put together at the time the car was made. It says that even one instance of the "death wobble" can cause real damage to the car. How will I know if its been damaged? The wobble has happened to me about 5 times now. Its at the dealership right now. It is still under warranty. Now Im nervous. I LOVE that car!
11-23-2010 07:55 AM
kate.5 Completely stock. She has 20,000k on her, the tires are really fine. It happened today on my way to drop it off to the dealership. Its really scary. You have no control over the car and it starts and stops for no reason!
11-22-2010 04:15 PM
Dogzilla Original tires?? Any unusual wear showing on the front ones? How many miles?? Has there been any work/alignment done on the front end?

If not the tires, there is probably something loose on the front end. It sure sucks!
11-22-2010 03:22 PM
Hilldweller Death wobble sucks and there's no excuse for it in an unmodded Jeep.
Your dealer will/must remedy it.

Read the linked material and go in loaded for bear. Get yourself a loaner vehicle until it's fixed.

Best of luck.
11-22-2010 02:58 PM
porch1955
death wobble

kate....is ur jeep stock ???or are there any mods to it?
11-22-2010 02:53 PM
krutj This is the best info for DW that I've read....

I recommend that you read it before you take it to the dealer, then you'll know if they're bs-ing you.

Diagnosing Death Wobble and Fixing Non-DW Shimmies and Wobbles - JeepForum.com
11-22-2010 02:52 PM
iix23 death wobble check here.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/anot...tion-5756.html
11-22-2010 02:46 PM
kate.5
Shaking! Almost died!

Hey-
I have had my 2009 stock Jeep since it was brand new last August. Ive been the only driver and it has never been off-roading (yet) or abused in any way. I have the oil changed with synthetic every 5k, do all of the usual things that need to be done. 3 times now, I have hit a rough patch of highway; meaning the road is still tar but in need of a little attention, and my Jeep started shaking so bad I could barely control it. The first time it happened I thought I had a flat tire. Not the case. Today it happened and I literally almost crashed. The wheel almost locks up and I can barely steer it. I have made an appointment with the dealership for tomorrow...but I was just wondering if anyone else has had this happen?

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