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05-15-2014 08:44 AM
VaderJK Hey all, my wife and I just picked up a '14 JKU sport three weeks ago. We're in Winchester, near Murrieta border and are itching to break 'er in!!

Anyone know if gates are open from Main Divide to Santiago Peak? Would like to go up and over and down into O.C. dumps out on Holy Jim on the OC side, right?
03-05-2014 06:23 AM
I H8RDS Dirt roads; and a lot of them. My XO rides his dirt bike there.
11-19-2013 09:13 AM
socal_hemihead I didn't see Ballinger Canyon‏ on the list. Does anyone know much about the trails there?
11-13-2013 10:58 AM
TJNuss Great helpful info for us TJ newbys from the SGV area.
09-12-2013 08:11 PM
rip Yeah, Like the idea. I'm looking for folks to ride with, but not computer savy. Anyone heading out this weekend?
08-25-2013 11:40 AM
Laney OlllllllO
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Originally Posted by Canyon Dweller View Post

Hey I think I saw you on holy Jim this afternoon around 3:00... Or a jeep that looked a lot like the one in your profile pic
Sorry for the late response, but YEP that was me! Pretty fun for my first trail experience!
08-18-2013 08:27 PM
Canyon Dweller
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Originally Posted by Laney OlllllllO View Post
Hi Rubicon, I'm new to this forum and recently picked up a 98 TJ. I wanted to take a little adventure out to Santiago Peak/ Holy Jim tomorrow. Probably wont make it out there till 11am/12pm. What time did you start on the trail? I'm thinking this would be the hottest time of day and want to plan accordingly. Would you have any GPS coordinates or cross streets for the trail head? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Hey I think I saw you on holy Jim this afternoon around 3:00... Or a jeep that looked a lot like the one in your profile pic
08-17-2013 02:34 AM
Laney OlllllllO
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Originally Posted by Rubicon Madness View Post
Ok, we went up to Santiago Peak today, up Indian Trail Road. Saw a couple other keepers up there, some coming down, others behind us going up. Very dusty and hot, about 93°. View wasn't great due to smog, better to hit this one in the winter months.
Hi Rubicon, I'm new to this forum and recently picked up a 98 TJ. I wanted to take a little adventure out to Santiago Peak/ Holy Jim tomorrow. Probably wont make it out there till 11am/12pm. What time did you start on the trail? I'm thinking this would be the hottest time of day and want to plan accordingly. Would you have any GPS coordinates or cross streets for the trail head? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
08-11-2013 11:02 PM
Rubicon Madness Ok, we went up to Santiago Peak today, up Indian Trail Road. Saw a couple other keepers up there, some coming down, others behind us going up. Very dusty and hot, about 93°. View wasn't great due to smog, better to hit this one in the winter months.
07-30-2013 05:31 PM
Cons_Table
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Originally Posted by josea1952 View Post
Cons, do you have directions to Isham? Looks like a blast.
Sorry sir, just saw this...I know its about 2 months late but it is definitely a blast make sure you are ready for it though. I did it open/open with a couple tugs, but I definitely recommend two lockers haha. But its pretty hot out there anyways right now so I dont know if youd wanna run it at this time of year.

No coordinates. The best I can do for you is this:

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To get there, go about 6 miles north of the town of Trona to the Valley Sand and Gravel sign and turn Right (East) onto the gravel road. About 2 miles further, look for a Left turn (north) into a narrow wash. The trail is only marked by a very short brown trail arrow placed by the BLM. Follow this wash north for a short way until it turns North East. Continue to the narrow canyon opening. You will know that you are in the right place when you reach a 2-foot ledge. If you haven't aired down yet, this is the place to do it. From there, 4WD Low is recommended to the top of the canyon.
I pulled those directions from here but they sound right.
07-30-2013 05:22 PM
htkrph Soon I will be there!!!
05-07-2013 02:42 PM
josea1952 Cons, do you have directions to Isham? Looks like a blast.
04-03-2013 11:58 PM
R8DRIZD
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Originally Posted by Canyon Dweller View Post
I have been a ways up that trail...probably too far alone... Haha. I would like to get a group together and make it to wherever it ends up at. There are a few spots that the trail gets narrow and washed out down the side of the mountain. Kind of a pucker factor. I live less than 10 minutes from there.

Pucker is a good narrative...I was up that trail and it was snowing & wet. Slip and slide all the way down. I will not go by myself exploring up that trail again in that condition unless I am ready to walk to the nearest road!

PM me if you want to go...I'm game!
04-03-2013 06:20 PM
Canyon Dweller
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Originally Posted by lovethetrails5 View Post
Anyone that goes out to holy jim I found a pretty good trail out there off to the left side. To much for a stock jeep I went up a while but it was night I think it can go to the peak. Lots of steep hills huge ruts big switchbacks. It's great I found it when it was raining but you can barely even get up it when it's wet even on 33 km2 I was still close to sliding off the edge. It looks like it used to be blocked by a gate that's now open. This may be old news but new to me haha
I have been a ways up that trail...probably too far alone... Haha. I would like to get a group together and make it to wherever it ends up at. There are a few spots that the trail gets narrow and washed out down the side of the mountain. Kind of a pucker factor. I live less than 10 minutes from there.
04-03-2013 12:54 AM
Stevezie
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Originally Posted by DrumBum89 View Post
Has anyone been up to Hungry Valley that has a solid opinion about it? Can't seem to find too much on it on the forums and A friend wanted to check it out this weekend!
I've dirt biked up there for years. Love that place. I also spent some time in my old FJ40 there. You can cruise around all day and have fun. I'm not out to push my rig to death (I save that for the dirt bike, since its cheap)... So I keep it simple and climb around on easier trails and stuff...it's around 20,000 acres, I think, so there will be a good amount of exploring to do...I'll be heading there as soon as my jku shows up!
04-01-2013 11:50 AM
Cons_Table
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Originally Posted by R8DRIZD View Post
Great write up Thanks for sharing!!


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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
Very Cool Geoff. Trail Reports with videos. Thanks
Bob
Thanks Bob. Figured videos/pictures will help anyone interested.

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Originally Posted by DrumBum89 View Post
Has anyone been up to Hungry Valley that has a solid opinion about it? Can't seem to find too much on it on the forums and A friend wanted to check it out this weekend!
Hungry Valley, as in the offroad park, or the surrounding area? I havent done much/any wheeling in Hungry Valley except for the offroad park. A pretty common trail that is in the area is Miller Jeep Trail (which I posted in a video a couple posts up). This trail is a decent length, but plenty capable in a stock rig. At the top of the trail you will be at Dutchman's camp. From there, you will make an easy, downhill ride on a dirt road down through hungry valley.

The offroad park is fun. It was a good place to get a little rock fix after the easier trip through Miller. We probably spent an hour or two just screwing around on the obstacles then headed home.
04-01-2013 11:36 AM
DrumBum89 Has anyone been up to Hungry Valley that has a solid opinion about it? Can't seem to find too much on it on the forums and A friend wanted to check it out this weekend!
03-31-2013 02:04 AM
Gunner Very Cool Geoff. Trail Reports with videos. Thanks
Bob
03-31-2013 12:25 AM
R8DRIZD
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Originally Posted by Cons_Table View Post
Here are a few trail reports that I have to add:

Isham Canyon: Trona, CA
Isham Canyon is located near Trona, CA just short of Panamint Valley. This is a relatively short trail but very difficult. It is full of rocks and tough sections. One of the sections this trail is most known for is a tough, v-notch style climb at the end of the trail. If running this trail, know that body damage is very possible and common. I ran this trail open/stock posi, on 35s and had to get two tugs. I would recommend 33s and two lockers, or 35s and one/two lockers.

Isham Canyon: Trona, CA - YouTube

John Bull: Big Bear, CA
John Bull is considered one of the toughest trails in Big Bear. John Bull is full of rocks and a couple of different climbs. Personally, the couple of times I have ran it, there were a few sections that seemed moderately difficult, but not too terrible. I would say the toughest section is towards the top. This section is full of solid rock, but will test the articulation of your suspension. The gatekeeper currently does not appear to be near the amount of difficulty that it used to be...therefore making it very passable. I would recommend at least 33s and 1 locker.

Wranglerforum: John Bull-Big Bear, CA - YouTube

Doran and Odessa Canyon: Yermo, CA
Doran and Odessa are located just down the road from Calico Ghost Town (about 15 minutes from Barstow). These trails are very scenic due to the different rock formations. Doran and Odessa are known for a few waterfall climbs, "Pucker Pass," and the 50/50 slot. Although possible in a stock rig, I would recommend 32s and possibly 1 locker. The lower the rig, the more crucial rock rails will be...as you will use them. Ground clearance helps avoid high-centering as well.

WranglerForum: Doran and Odessa Canyon - YouTube

Last Chance Canyon and Nightmare Gulch: Red Rock Canyon, CA
Last Chance Canyon and Nightmare Gulch are stock rig friendly. The benefit of Last Chance Canyon, is that it has the option of lines as simple as a fire road or lines that may require higher ground clearance and possible lockers. Last Chance Canyon is great for beginners to learn what offroading is all about. It is also known for the optional "V-notch." Nightmare Gulch is a very scenic and technical trail that is always changing due to the overhanging "cliffs." Unfortunately, Nightmare Gulch is only open from July-January. During these months, vehicle traffic is only allowed during the second half of the month. However, it is a great trip. I recommend a decent all terrain tire and rocker guards for shorter rigs.

WranglerForum: Last Chance Canyon & Nightmare Gulch - YouTube

Miller Jeep Trail and Hungry Valley: Frazier Park, CA

Miller Jeep Trail is a pretty easy trail for a mildly built rig. There are some sections that are more than passable by a stock jeep, but may require a little more work. This trail has many hill climbs and as well as many downhill descents. There are various obstacles spread throughout that are mainly small rock "gardens." Hungry Valley has a decent size offroad park to test the capabilities of your rig. Obstacles such as a sluice box, rocky hill climbs, mud pits, are available. I recommend 31" all terrain tires for Miller Jeep Trail.

Wranglerforum: Miller Jeep Trail & Hungry Valley - YouTube

Great write up Thanks for sharing!!
03-25-2013 03:51 PM
Cons_Table Here are a few trail reports that I have to add:

Isham Canyon: Trona, CA
Isham Canyon is located near Trona, CA just short of Panamint Valley. This is a relatively short trail but very difficult. It is full of rocks and tough sections. One of the sections this trail is most known for is a tough, v-notch style climb at the end of the trail. If running this trail, know that body damage is very possible and common. I ran this trail open/stock posi, on 35s and had to get two tugs. I would recommend 33s and two lockers, or 35s and one/two lockers.

Isham Canyon: Trona, CA - YouTube

John Bull: Big Bear, CA
John Bull is considered one of the toughest trails in Big Bear. John Bull is full of rocks and a couple of different climbs. Personally, the couple of times I have ran it, there were a few sections that seemed moderately difficult, but not too terrible. I would say the toughest section is towards the top. This section is full of solid rock, but will test the articulation of your suspension. The gatekeeper currently does not appear to be near the amount of difficulty that it used to be...therefore making it very passable. I would recommend at least 33s and 1 locker.

Wranglerforum: John Bull-Big Bear, CA - YouTube

Doran and Odessa Canyon: Yermo, CA
Doran and Odessa are located just down the road from Calico Ghost Town (about 15 minutes from Barstow). These trails are very scenic due to the different rock formations. Doran and Odessa are known for a few waterfall climbs, "Pucker Pass," and the 50/50 slot. Although possible in a stock rig, I would recommend 32s and possibly 1 locker. The lower the rig, the more crucial rock rails will be...as you will use them. Ground clearance helps avoid high-centering as well.

WranglerForum: Doran and Odessa Canyon - YouTube

Last Chance Canyon and Nightmare Gulch: Red Rock Canyon, CA
Last Chance Canyon and Nightmare Gulch are stock rig friendly. The benefit of Last Chance Canyon, is that it has the option of lines as simple as a fire road or lines that may require higher ground clearance and possible lockers. Last Chance Canyon is great for beginners to learn what offroading is all about. It is also known for the optional "V-notch." Nightmare Gulch is a very scenic and technical trail that is always changing due to the overhanging "cliffs." Unfortunately, Nightmare Gulch is only open from July-January. During these months, vehicle traffic is only allowed during the second half of the month. However, it is a great trip. I recommend a decent all terrain tire and rocker guards for shorter rigs.

WranglerForum: Last Chance Canyon & Nightmare Gulch - YouTube

Miller Jeep Trail and Hungry Valley: Frazier Park, CA

Miller Jeep Trail is a pretty easy trail for a mildly built rig. There are some sections that are more than passable by a stock jeep, but may require a little more work. This trail has many hill climbs and as well as many downhill descents. There are various obstacles spread throughout that are mainly small rock "gardens." Hungry Valley has a decent size offroad park to test the capabilities of your rig. Obstacles such as a sluice box, rocky hill climbs, mud pits, are available. I recommend 31" all terrain tires for Miller Jeep Trail.

Wranglerforum: Miller Jeep Trail & Hungry Valley - YouTube

Stoddard Wells/Pumpkin Eater: Barstow, CA

Stoddard Wells has terrain for everyone. During this trip, I only got to see a small portion of what I am sure the area has to offer. There are steep climbs, rock gardens, descents, and waterfalls available for your entertainment. Find out where you are going first, because there are areas that are NOT stock rig friendly. Pumpkin Eater is an example of a trail located in Stoddard Wells that will require a bigger rig. I only went up about half way (ran out of time to do the whole trail) and there were a couple sections that pose an issue for a smaller rig. Longer wheelbases/heavier foots will benefit in certain areas of Pumpkin Eater due to a few large waterfalls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jprShotAyU
03-25-2013 03:08 PM
CanyonDweller
North of Los Angeles Area trails

Hi all: I'm new to the site, but have read most of this thread-lots of great info! For this weekend, I'm looking for something pretty close (out of Sylmar) to the area and easy enough to not need a spotter. Something we can do in stock Jeeps. We don't mind some fun stuff, but if there isn't anything close, just a pretty drive on a fire road will do! We've been to the OHV area near Santa Clarita (Rowher Flats area I think) but it's so busy, and been there done that. Appreciate any suggestions.
03-13-2013 07:46 PM
R8DRIZD
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Originally Posted by Aftahour View Post
I'm also in the murrieta/temecula area.

Went on a cruise up to the Main Divide today..I love when you find a gate that's open!!!
03-11-2013 10:21 PM
Aftahour
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Originally Posted by R8DRIZD View Post

RIP...I am in the same mode. Where are you located? I am in Murrieta/Temecula area. I had fun by myself gong up Trabuco Canyon. Found the gate open on the way up Holy Jim Canyon. I made it to Santiago Creek Trail. Pretty challenging in the mud and slight snow.

PM me if you want to take a day trip.
I'm also in the murrieta/temecula area.
03-11-2013 05:34 PM
lovethetrails5
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Originally Posted by R8DRIZD View Post

Yes absolutely! Let's take a run up to the Main Divide or the Trabuco Trail.
Sounds good to me man
03-11-2013 05:16 PM
R8DRIZD
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Originally Posted by lovethetrails5 View Post
I go up that trail a lot pm to if you ever go I'm in Orange right next to holy jim pretty much

Yes absolutely! Let's take a run up to the Main Divide or the Trabuco Trail.
03-11-2013 05:13 PM
R8DRIZD Some pictures of Holy Jim and the Trabuco Trail.
03-11-2013 02:38 PM
lovethetrails5
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Originally Posted by R8DRIZD View Post

RIP...I am in the same mode. Where are you located? I am in Murrieta/Temecula area. I had fun by myself gong up Trabuco Canyon. Found the gate open on the way up Holy Jim Canyon. I made it to Santiago Creek Trail. Pretty challenging in the mud and slight snow.

PM me if you want to take a day trip.
I go up that trail a lot pm to if you ever go I'm in Orange right next to holy jim pretty much
03-09-2013 04:22 PM
R8DRIZD
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Originally Posted by rip View Post
Looking for people in the SoCal area to go with now and then. Have not got this site figured out yet to narrow a search, so trying this way. We live in the LA area.

RIP...I am in the same mode. Where are you located? I am in Murrieta/Temecula area. I had fun by myself gong up Trabuco Canyon. Found the gate open on the way up Holy Jim Canyon. I made it to Santiago Creek Trail. Pretty challenging in the mud and slight snow.

PM me if you want to take a day trip.
02-24-2013 11:19 PM
mherman727
Piute Mountian Road

Had a blast on the Piute Mountain trail today even though we had to turn around just before the peak.
02-22-2013 05:56 PM
Gunner Welcome RIP. Go back to the California page and look at the top where it says post new thread and introduce yourself. People will be all over it.
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