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12-04-2010 12:29 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by edman87k5 View Post
Actually, damage to the tree is not the only Reason to use a tree saver. The cable is not designed to be hooked to. When you just wrap the tree and hook the cable back to itself, you are focusing the entire load on about 1/2" of cable and that load is pulling against the cable in the opposite way it was designed. (across the rope instead of in line with it). You will do severe damage to the cable and risk breakage by doing this. Wire rope is actually somewhat brittle and prone to failure when side loaded.
That was a very astute answer, it's good to have people here like you that know what they're talking about. Nice to have you here.
12-04-2010 11:38 AM
Redjeepmormon
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Originally Posted by edman87k5
Actually, damage to the tree is not the only Reason to use a tree saver. The cable is not designed to be hooked to. When you just wrap the tree and hook the cable back to itself, you are focusing the entire load on about 1/2" of cable and that load is pulling against the cable in the opposite way it was designed. (across the rope instead of in line with it). You will do severe damage to the cable and risk breakage by doing this. Wire rope is actually somewhat brittle and prone to failure when side loaded.
Good info. I will be purchasing one.
12-04-2010 11:37 AM
Redjeepmormon
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Originally Posted by mike_the_engineer
I have the same winch. Yes, it will work with the stock bumper, but you need a winch plate. Make sure you get one with a mount for the fairlead. You don't need a new battery, just be sure to do your winching with the engine running. You *can* just wrap the cable around a tree if you're in a pinch, but you should use a tree trunk protector. Tread lighty. And get a set of work gloves for handling the cable.
Great answer. Thank you
12-04-2010 09:26 AM
mike_the_engineer I have the same winch. Yes, it will work with the stock bumper, but you need a winch plate. Make sure you get one with a mount for the fairlead. You don't need a new battery, just be sure to do your winching with the engine running. You *can* just wrap the cable around a tree if you're in a pinch, but you should use a tree trunk protector. Tread lighty. And get a set of work gloves for handling the cable.
12-04-2010 06:48 AM
edman87k5 Actually, damage to the tree is not the only Reason to use a tree saver. The cable is not designed to be hooked to. When you just wrap the tree and hook the cable back to itself, you are focusing the entire load on about 1/2" of cable and that load is pulling against the cable in the opposite way it was designed. (across the rope instead of in line with it). You will do severe damage to the cable and risk breakage by doing this. Wire rope is actually somewhat brittle and prone to failure when side loaded.
12-03-2010 11:46 PM
Redjeepmormon
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Originally Posted by solman

Very true.
I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. I hate people who destroy trees and potential trails. Please don't take my comment seriously I was JUST JOKING. I will be purchasing a tree saver for sure.

Now stop bashing me on my sarcastic previous comment. Thanks. Let's continue the thread please.
12-03-2010 11:02 PM
solman
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Originally Posted by Barrie in Utah View Post
There is nothing Lame about not killing trees in the area you are wheeling in. It's this kind of attitude that gets wheeling areas shut down.
Very true.
12-03-2010 10:54 PM
Redjeepmormon
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Originally Posted by Barrie in Utah View Post
There is nothing Lame about not killing trees in the area you are wheeling in. It's this kind of attitude that gets wheeling areas shut down.
Whoa there buddy. I WAS BEING SARCASTIC.
12-03-2010 10:38 PM
Barrie
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Originally Posted by Redjeepmormon View Post
So if I dont care about trees I shouldnt buy one? Hahahaha Oh well I guess ill spend an extra $20 to save a tree
There is nothing Lame about not killing trees in the area you are wheeling in. It's this kind of attitude that gets wheeling areas shut down.
12-03-2010 10:32 PM
bobjenkins Question everyone says bad thing about SB. Has any one here had this winch fail on them when they needed it?
12-03-2010 10:29 PM
T2000J Warn all the way
12-03-2010 09:20 PM
moneypit-TJ
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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d View Post
Question for you winch guys (and girls)...didn't wanna start yet another winch thread...I'm looking to get the Warn M8000 winch in the future. Can I purchase synthetic line rated for an 8000 lb winch and put it on there or are only certain winches compatible with synthetic line?
you can get synthetic line for your winch for sure. i believe warn has a direct replacement line for the m 8000, correct length and such. its not cheap though
12-03-2010 08:42 PM
Redjeepmormon I guess I never asked this.

I just noticed this thing weighs aobut 95lbs. I have a 2" BB. Will this put too much pressure on my stock springs? I am looking to put a 4" RC lift in in about a year or 2. Will I be okay for a couple of years?
12-03-2010 08:38 PM
Redjeepmormon
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Originally Posted by monkeee2002 View Post
Wrapping a cable around a tree will slice through it, causing bad damage to the tree.
A tree saver strap is wide, so that it doesn't damage the trees.

Enviro-friendly

And yes, a winch will come with either a cable or synthetic rope. When you read the details on a winch, it will usually specify what size diameter and length of cable / rope.
So if I dont care about trees I shouldnt buy one? Hahahaha Oh well I guess ill spend an extra $20 to save a tree
12-03-2010 07:43 PM
monkeee2002
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Originally Posted by Redjeepmormon View Post
Why the tree saver straps? What do they do? And does the winch come with a cable?
Wrapping a cable around a tree will slice through it, causing bad damage to the tree.
A tree saver strap is wide, so that it doesn't damage the trees.

Enviro-friendly

And yes, a winch will come with either a cable or synthetic rope. When you read the details on a winch, it will usually specify what size diameter and length of cable / rope.
12-03-2010 07:14 PM
s3nt3nc3d Question for you winch guys (and girls)...didn't wanna start yet another winch thread...I'm looking to get the Warn M8000 winch in the future. Can I purchase synthetic line rated for an 8000 lb winch and put it on there or are only certain winches compatible with synthetic line?
12-03-2010 07:12 PM
Redjeepmormon Why the tree saver straps? What do they do? And does the winch come with a cable?
12-03-2010 06:57 PM
edman87k5 Everything above and spring for a snatch block, and at least 2 shackles and 2 tree straps.
I have had the xrc8 on my tj for almost 2 years and it has been well used with 0 problems. It got a major workout last weekend and has done back to back full spool pulls and doesnt get hot.
Only drawback is that it is slow.
Yes, I do have a warn also to compare it to and love my warn, but when I was buying for the tj, cash was tight and the smitty was all I could afford. No regrests.
12-03-2010 05:55 PM
Mortalis5509 Smitty has a winch plate for your jeep. You will need a tree saver strap and a D ring to hook everything together. Buy gloves to protect your hands. Also important to weigh the line down encased it breaks. The cable won't go flying through the air. Amazon has the xrc 8 with synthetic line for 401 with free ship.
12-03-2010 05:05 PM
Fire Jeep It should work with your stock bumper however not sure on the winch plate, if your battery is still good you shouldn't have a problem and you should use a tree saver then attach to your cable. Take a look at the rugged ridge 8500 winch for the same price, you might be better off(that's what i will be picking up). any thoughts?
12-03-2010 03:00 PM
Redjeepmormon
Smittybilt XRC8 Winch Question

97281 - Smittybilt XRC-8 Winch - Quadratec
^^^^^Here's the link for the winch.


I am getting this winch for Christmas. I have a stock bumper on a 2000 TJ

Now the questions.

Will this work with the stock bumper?
What is the best winch mount plate to buy?
Will I need a new battery?
Is there anything I will need to get before I can use the winch?
And the last one, and the dumbest one, do I just have to wrap the winch cable around the tree? or do I need something else?

Please help everybody. Thanks in advance!

Happy holidays!!

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