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12-06-2010 10:24 PM
jk'n Happy four wheeling jspeer, and congratulations on the new job.
12-06-2010 07:45 PM
Triel Glad to hear everything worked out for you, and congrats on the new job, Jspeer!

Terry
12-06-2010 07:13 PM
jspeer1130 thanks for the info guys....we got some more snow here today and I drove it home in 2WD as 90% of the main roads were just wet with a little bit of ice here and there.

once I got home though I pulled over and put it into neutral and it dropped right into 4WD.....I then had fun for an hour or so traveling all of the roads less traveled that had 4-5 inches of snow on them before putting it back into 2WD and having fun sliding around

Another good thing is I just started a new job with the same company that came with a good raise as well as a window view of my jeep all day as long as I park outside my window
12-03-2010 10:57 AM
aelwero I'm normally a "stopped" shifter, (because I'm usually stuck) but it is easier in motion, even at like 30-40... take your foot off everything. no gas, no brakes, no clutch, just let it roll how it wants and shift, mine drops right in when it's rolling on it's own
12-03-2010 10:08 AM
JIMBOX It's super easy with the auto-

Apply "light fingertip" pressure to the 4hi/4lo lever and "rock" the tranny from R to D to R-"BINGO", drops right in, course thats after some breakin use and mine's been used a bit

However you try to shift the lever into 4wd-DON'T FORCE IT, it's pretty common the bust off the (made in China) nylon bushing, that holds the xfer case shift cable in place !!

JIMBO
12-03-2010 10:00 AM
MTH I've only needed to shift to 4wd while stopped. So, with my foot off the gas and the Jeep in neutral, I (a) depress the clutch, (b) pull into 4H with a smooth but firm pull, (c) shift into 1st while clutch is still depressed, and (d) drive. Works fine.

According to the manual, I could also make the shift while driving at below 50 mph. Having not done this yet but knowing that at 40 mph I'm usually in 4th gear with my foot on the gas, I expect I would (a) let off the gas, (b) depress the clutch, (c) pull into 4H, and (d) smoothly release clutch and depress gas so as to pick back up in 4th gear where I left off.

Of course, fiddling with the clutch during either of these processes is in fact superfluous with regard to the transfer case shifting, but it makes me feel more comfortable for no good reason I'm aware of. I'm willing to listen if somebody tells me it's actually bad, but otherwise I'll stick with it.

I believe the ambiguity you noted--about "constant force" referring to either the transfer case shifter or the gas--is resolved by the statement that "the transfer case will engage/disengage faster if you momentarily release the accelerator pedal after completing the shift." The "constant force" is not referring to the gas, it's referring to the transfer case shifter. Don't yank it like your trying to start a lawnmower, just grip it firmly and pull back with constant force until you get where you want to go.
12-03-2010 09:14 AM
BlackMountain ^^you push your clutch in when you make the shift?

"apply a constant force when shifting the transfer case lever" means two things to me. that means give the lever a good tug when you pull it, or keep you foot on the gas and the car in gear while you pull it
12-03-2010 09:03 AM
MTH
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackMountain View Post
quick question: in a standard transmission, do you depress the clutch when you shift from 2hi to 4hi? what about going from 4hi to 2hi?
No. Owner's Manual states:

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Shifting Procedure
2H to 4H or 4H to 2H
Shifting between 2H and 4H can be made with the vehicle stopped or in motion. If the vehicle is in motion, shifts can be made up to 50 mph (80 km/h). With the vehicle in motion, the transfer case will engage/disengage faster if you momentarily release the accelerator pedal after completing the shift. Apply a constant force when shifting the transfer case lever.
*************

However, I do it anyway. It's just habit.
12-03-2010 08:49 AM
BlackMountain quick question: in a standard transmission, do you depress the clutch when you shift from 2hi to 4hi? what about going from 4hi to 2hi?
12-03-2010 03:42 AM
popstop785 My first Jeep, 95 Grand Cherokee Larado, I pulled it into, and out of, the slot so randomly and so obviously incorrect (after reading how to in this forum)... I have to wonder why it never broke? Come to think of it, I beat the crap out of that jeep so much that now when I look back I wonder why it didn't blow up! :$

You will always remember your first... Jeep.
12-03-2010 12:37 AM
jk'n <dissertation>

To a degree...when I pull really hard on my stick....really bad things can happen .

Soooo...to clarify a little...cause...I wouldn't want to happen to your stick...what happened to mine...

There is a little bitty bushing (bushing of death ) in the linkage. I was in a washout down in a big ravine and tried to go into 4 low and that little bushing decided to let go. Called a tow truck...the guy walked the 3/4 mile down to where my jeep was...laughed at me...and said..."I ain't bringing my rig down here, get one of your friends to tow you out of here with a tow strap and up to the parking lot yonder...then I'll tow you from there". OMG. Sixty cent part later and my linkage was whole again. Now I carry three of those little bushings in my glove box...little white plastic things...WTF.

Now, when I say be gentle on you stick...I mean this in the kindest sort of way...DON'T MANHANDLE IT!

Now...in all seriousness...when the jeep is not under power is when you should shift it meaning that your foot on the skinny pedal is not pushing hard on it...in other words...you are pretty much coasting. Putting stress on the drive train and shifting the transfer case can do bad things to gears not just the bushing of death. Also, none of your tires should be spinning (lost traction) when you shift, that can result in grinding a pound of gears as well but that goes along pretty much with...you should be coasting, not under power.

The owners manual is pretty descriptive of how to do this. I would suggest spending some intimate time with it to learn how to be gentle to your stick . I did that and my stick is now very happy with me...no broken parts since. But it is just a matter of time...no matter how gentle I am with it until that bushing breaks again. So I invested just over $2.00 for three of them. When on the trail, your fellow wheelers will be wondrous of you and worship you when you produce one of those bad boys when they too have been too rough with their stick....just sayin'

Now...don't get your shorts all tied up in a knot over this. I recommend firm gentle pressure...that is the way I move my stick. Get a few bushings and put them in the glove box. Use the search function on this forum or click here and learn where the bushing is located. Get under your jeep and locate that part...after all...if you are going to be playing with your stick...wouldn't you want to be prepared....and safe...just think of them like little condoms...when you carry a few extra...you get to have lots of fun...and not worry too much about consequences. The part number of the bushing is in the thread I linked to. As you should be able to tell from reading that thread, I do have a little experience with the bushing of death.

Now that you have had some good advice about how to treat your stick, go forth and produce much fun and pleasure with it and practice safety while you do it. She will love you for it (your jeep....what were you thinking!).

</dissertation>
12-02-2010 09:04 PM
MTH Seems silly but the answer is really just to pull harder.
12-02-2010 08:00 PM
JIMBOX -Mine has less reluctance--





--When my wife assists--




JIMBO
12-02-2010 07:50 PM
Jp90Talon This thread is going down hill fast
12-02-2010 07:45 PM
Dogzilla The cold makes it stiffer. Just pull harder.
12-02-2010 07:42 PM
myjeepandmydog
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triel View Post
Jspeer, I had a similar problem the first time or two I tried to put my jeep in 4hi. The lever was really stiff and took a little bit of effort the first time, but after that I had no problems with it. Also, I find rolling slowly helps a bit.

Good luck and stay safe in that white stuff!

Terry
Had same thing happen with my new 2011. First try I thought it was broken but it gets into place a little easier. Still haven't gotten it into 4 w lo was super stiff when I tried and didn't need it anyway. Hopefully you'll get it next time. Can't wait for snow here...if it ever comes
12-02-2010 07:32 PM
Triel Jspeer, I had a similar problem the first time or two I tried to put my jeep in 4hi. The lever was really stiff and took a little bit of effort the first time, but after that I had no problems with it. Also, I find rolling slowly helps a bit.

Good luck and stay safe in that white stuff!

Terry
12-02-2010 07:23 PM
Jp90Talon
Quote:
Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Firm steady pressure.
12-02-2010 07:17 PM
daggo66 Firm steady pressure.
12-02-2010 07:12 PM
jk'n While the jeep is rolling, just move the lever in the direction of 4wd. Nuttin' special.
12-02-2010 07:05 PM
jspeer1130
the post of shame....

That's right...the psot of shame.

I've had my 07 unlimited JK since April and I haven't used the 4WD yet....

So I read up on the manual and figured out what to do...so yesterday when I came out of work and there was snow and ice on the road I figured I would use it!

get rolling down an access road at about 10 MPH and pull back on the 4WD shifter and it doesn't budge...droppped it into neutral while still rolling at 10-15 MPH and it stil didn't budge...didnt' want to pull back too hard and break something so I stopped and had fun with the rear wheel drive the rest of the way home....

I really do miss having the manual transmission in the snow...

anyways....what's the best technique for getting into 4HI for the snowy drives this winter?

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