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12-20-2010 06:50 PM
Fweaky Not everyone has the same needs in a tire.
There is some good info here...Off Road Tire Guide for Mud and All Terrain Tires - Offroaders.com
12-19-2010 09:05 PM
jeepinmichguy
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Originally Posted by Bubba68CS View Post
Really?

Lot of posts for someone who doesn't care...

Admit it...you care
Not my money, not my Jeep.
12-19-2010 03:36 PM
Bubba68CS
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
No it didnt, like I said it doesnt matter to me what they end up buying its not my money. I have my tires.
Really?



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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
BFG A/T's are a glorified street tire. Any one who thinks they are any good off road is on crack. Go with the KM2's.
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
If you said decent off road I may agree but amazing....
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
Its not an opinion its fact, even someone who has never ran an all terrain tire should be able to tell by looking at them they are quite lacking compaired to any MT.
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That would just tell me there are alot of people that dont wheel anything decent, or have never tried another type of tire. It reminds me of when i first started wheeling and my first set of tires were BFG AT's. I thought they were the ***. The I decided to get something super agressive, Thornbirds (Pethetic, I know but thats what my friends said).... I thought they worked well to untill I actually got a clue and ran my first set of TSL's. Finally I figured it out. When you are doing things in 2WD you needed 4WD for before it finally started to dawn on me. Maybe you can tell just be looking at the tread if it will perform offroad or not.

If all terrains are so great off road explain why, because there are tons of agressive tires that excell on road and off. BFG KM2's, GY Wrangler MT/R with kevlar to name a couple. There is nothing about an all terrain besides the name that should suggest it will work well off road. Like I said before they are a glorified street tire. You wanna buy a crappy "supposed to be" off road tire be my guest. Its not my money I'm pissing away.
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What Mickey Thompsons and what Mud terrains are you asking about? IMO for on and offroad use you cant get any better than the GY Wrangler MTR w/ Kevlar. Quiet and smooth on the road (once you get them balanced by a good shop), great in the rain (have not had them in snow yet personally). Looks like I will get about 30K out of them. Offroad they clear out pretty good in even the nasty red clay mud, have great bite on the rocks (I air mine down to 7 PSI, and the sidewalls are tough as nails.
Lot of posts for someone who doesn't care...

Admit it...you care
12-19-2010 03:24 PM
jeepinmichguy
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Originally Posted by Search And Destroy View Post
Most of my offroading is mudding and in my experience with the all terrains the cracks fill with mud and it become a big doughnut and I get stuck.

What's better a mickey thompson set or mud terrains?
What Mickey Thompsons and what Mud terrains are you asking about? IMO for on and offroad use you cant get any better than the GY Wrangler MTR w/ Kevlar. Quiet and smooth on the road (once you get them balanced by a good shop), great in the rain (have not had them in snow yet personally). Looks like I will get about 30K out of them. Offroad they clear out pretty good in even the nasty red clay mud, have great bite on the rocks (I air mine down to 7 PSI, and the sidewalls are tough as nails.
12-19-2010 03:20 PM
jeepinmichguy
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Originally Posted by Bubba68CS View Post
That post clearly went right over your head...good luck convincing people of anything
No it didnt, like I said it doesnt matter to me what they end up buying its not my money. I have my tires.
12-19-2010 03:17 PM
Search And Destroy Most of my offroading is mudding and in my experience with the all terrains the cracks fill with mud and it become a big doughnut and I get stuck.

What's better a mickey thompson set or mud terrains?
12-19-2010 03:11 PM
Bubba68CS
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
That would just tell me there are alot of people that dont wheel anything decent, or have never tried another type of tire. It reminds me of when i first started wheeling and my first set of tires were BFG AT's. I thought they were the ***. The I decided to get something super agressive, Thornbirds (Pethetic, I know but thats what my friends said).... I thought they worked well to untill I actually got a clue and ran my first set of TSL's. Finally I figured it out. When you are doing things in 2WD you needed 4WD for before it finally started to dawn on me. Maybe you can tell just be looking at the tread if it will perform offroad or not.

If all terrains are so great off road explain why, because there are tons of agressive tires that excell on road and off. BFG KM2's, GY Wrangler MT/R with kevlar to name a couple. There is nothing about an all terrain besides the name that should suggest it will work well off road. Like I said before they are a glorified street tire. You wanna buy a crappy "supposed to be" off road tire be my guest. Its not my money I'm pissing away.
That post clearly went right over your head...good luck convincing people of anything
12-19-2010 02:31 PM
jeepinmichguy
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Originally Posted by Bubba68CS View Post
Your posts remind me of this story:

~ excerpt from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People"

You're not convincing anyone the Mud Terrain is better. Only convincing them that their choice was right.
That would just tell me there are alot of people that dont wheel anything decent, or have never tried another type of tire. It reminds me of when i first started wheeling and my first set of tires were BFG AT's. I thought they were the ***. The I decided to get something super agressive, Thornbirds (Pethetic, I know but thats what my friends said).... I thought they worked well to untill I actually got a clue and ran my first set of TSL's. Finally I figured it out. When you are doing things in 2WD you needed 4WD for before it finally started to dawn on me. Maybe you can tell just be looking at the tread if it will perform offroad or not.

If all terrains are so great off road explain why, because there are tons of agressive tires that excell on road and off. BFG KM2's, GY Wrangler MT/R with kevlar to name a couple. There is nothing about an all terrain besides the name that should suggest it will work well off road. Like I said before they are a glorified street tire. You wanna buy a crappy "supposed to be" off road tire be my guest. Its not my money I'm pissing away.
12-19-2010 02:02 PM
Bubba68CS
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
Its not an opinion its fact, even someone who has never ran an all terrain tire should be able to tell by looking at them they are quite lacking compaired to any MT.
Your posts remind me of this story:

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Years ago Patrick J. O'Haire joined one of my classes. He had a little education, and how he loved a scrap! He had once been a chauffeur, and he came to me because he had been trying, without much success, to sell trucks. A little questioning brought out the fact that he was continually scrapping with and antagonizing the very people he was trying to do business with. If a prospect said anything derogatory about the trucks he was selling, Pat saw red and was right at the customer's throat. pat won a lot of arguments in those days. As he said to me afterward, "I often walked out of an office saying: 'I told that bird something.' Sure I had told him something, but I hadn't sold him anything...

...Mr O'Haire became one of the star salesmen for the White Motor Company in New York. How did he do it? Here is his story in his own words: "If I walk into a buyer's office now and he says: 'What? A White Truck? They're no good! I wouldn't take one if you gave it to me. I'm going to buy the Whose-It truck,' I say, "the Whose It is a good truck. If you buy the Whose-It, you'll never make a mistake. The Whose Its are made by a fine company and sold by good people.'

"He is speechless then. There is no room for an argument. If he says the Whose-It is the best and I say sure it is, he has to stop. He can't keep on all afternoon saying, 'It's the best' when I'm agreeing with him. We then get off the subject of the Whose-It and I begin to talk about the good points of the White truck.

"There was a time when a remark like his first one would have made me see scarlet and red and orange. I would start arguing against the Whose-It; and the more I argued against it, the more my prospect argued in favor of it; and the more he argued, the more he sold himself on my competitor's product.

"As I look back now I wonder how I was ever able to sell anything. I lost years of my life in scrapping and arguing. I keep my mouth shut now. It pays"
~ excerpt from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People"

You're not convincing anyone the Mud Terrain is better. Only convincing them that their choice was right.
12-19-2010 01:42 PM
yjkid95
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Originally Posted by ESP123 View Post
Gotta love how there are just as many tire choices as opinions.
If they do everything you want them to do then they are a perfect tire for you. Some may want more so they may not be good enough for them. For me Those duratracs would be excellent as I want a excellent tire for snow and decent in mud. Offroading maybe once a week. So those duratracs seem pretty damn amazing to me as well. Catch my drift?
12-19-2010 01:40 PM
dnbearcat INTERCO TrXus Mud Terrain Tire....I ran these for a while on road and they were quiet and did great in any weather. I have the ATs now and they are good but seem to stick quite as well in the icy/snow. I think the tred gets clogged easier on the ATs which is causing more slip. But they are good looking and do well. The TrXus look mean and seemed to wear well.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/jcwhitney/p...4710G_CL_1.jpg
12-19-2010 01:33 PM
Fweaky KM2's
12-19-2010 01:25 PM
flynn78us If you want a mud tire, but not if you want an "All Terrain"
12-19-2010 08:16 AM
jeepinmichguy
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Originally Posted by ESP123 View Post
Gotta love how there are just as many tire choices as opinions.
Its not an opinion its fact, even someone who has never ran an all terrain tire should be able to tell by looking at them they are quite lacking compaired to any MT.
12-19-2010 03:12 AM
Ctriess I would look at the pro comp all terrain. I have them on my jeep and they ride pretty quite and handle well with anything you want to do.
12-18-2010 08:59 PM
computeruser M/T. Ran both, prefer the M/T for all but winter use. Run dedicated winter/snow tires, so M/T spring-summer-fall works great for me.
12-18-2010 08:32 PM
flynn78us Your gonna get alot of opinions. I had both and a/t's now on my Sahara. It just depends on what your Jeep see's more of. My Sahara sees more road then my XJso my XJ got the Swampers and My Sahara got the A/ts. However I am going to put M/t's on the XJ next
12-18-2010 08:05 PM
ESP
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
If you said decent off road I may agree but amazing....
Gotta love how there are just as many tire choices as opinions.
12-18-2010 07:05 PM
JDGROVER i have 33 bfg mt's i love them go with the mt's
12-18-2010 07:01 PM
jeepjones GO with the MT"S, screw the AT's they suck in everything but the asphalt.
12-18-2010 06:55 PM
jeepinmichguy
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Originally Posted by ESP123 View Post
I have no experience with BFG's A/T tires but the last pair of Goodyear Duratracs were amazing off road.
If you said decent off road I may agree but amazing....
12-18-2010 06:08 PM
06TJLOVER KM2's are kick ass! Have them on my DD and love them. No road noise and ride great.
12-18-2010 06:03 PM
jp2611 I am now on my third set of BFG AT's. I put the first set on at 25k miles. Jeep now has over 130k on it and just put 3rd set on in the past month. Great on road for me. My "off road" is to get kayak into the water-sometimes it is a regular boat launch sometimes is mud and low river BED!!!. Never been stuck that I couldn't drive out of-YET!!!!!!
12-18-2010 05:51 PM
ESP
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Originally Posted by jeepinmichguy View Post
BFG A/T's are a glorified street tire. Any one who thinks they are any good off road is on crack. Go with the KM2's.
I have no experience with BFG's A/T tires but the last pair of Goodyear Duratracs were amazing off road.
12-18-2010 05:43 PM
JEEPIN_DOG I had 30x9.5 BFG AT's on a stock TJ and did fine in all but really deep mud. I now have 33x10.5 BFG AT's and 3.25 suspension lift. Hope to be trying them out tomorrow. We'll see how they do.
12-18-2010 11:48 AM
nick50471 I like the BFG A/T on my Silverado but have the KM2 on my TJ.
12-18-2010 11:34 AM
jeepinmichguy
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Originally Posted by NAVYCHIEF View Post
we used bfg at's on our tour jeeps in sedona. we had no problems in snow, mud nor extreme rock crawling. open road to and from off roading can be noisey on some kinds of surfaces. over all a pretty good tire for jeeps.
12-18-2010 11:28 AM
NAVYCHIEF we used bfg at's on our tour jeeps in sedona. we had no problems in snow, mud nor extreme rock crawling. open road to and from off roading can be noisey on some kinds of surfaces. over all a pretty good tire for jeeps. i had them on my toyota tacoma 4x4 and they sucked.
12-18-2010 11:13 AM
DiSab i would get the all terain tires. my dad has them and he loves them and they look mean.
12-18-2010 11:07 AM
WahooWolfe
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Originally Posted by RSC17 View Post
I have KM2's on my DD Jeep. They are running good so far.

Ditto
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