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02-08-2011 09:49 AM
Pmedg the sound is good in it, my only issue is the lack of bass, but i suppose that is to be expected in 5.25" speakers. so my choices (due to funding) are as follows

1. Buy a 2 chanel amp and hook up the 2 12" MTX6000 woofers i have sitting in my basement from a previous system in my grand cherokee.

2. Buy a 4 channel amp and hook it up to the dash/sound bar speakers. and hopefully get some more bass out of them.
02-08-2011 09:31 AM
shawbm
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Originally Posted by Pmedg View Post
Interesting, i did not know that. so what your saying is my speakers will not be up to their potential until i install an amp?
Yes. Think of your current receiver as your amplifier, as it is in a way, because it is the only thing supplying your speakers with power. The DUAL unit you have only puts out 17 watts RMS, so 17 watts per-speaker. Your speaker RMS rating is what you should use to judge whether or not the receiver is supplying adequate power per-channel. If the receiver puts out 17 watts RMS per channel and your speakers are capable of putting out 50 RMS watts each (for example), then you are only providing 17 RMS watts to a 50 watt RMS capable speaker, thus not utilizing the remaining 33 RMS watts. Hope this helps! If you think your tunes are not quite up to par, an amplifier should solve that...
02-07-2011 08:08 AM
Pmedg Interesting, i did not know that. so what your saying is my speakers will not be up to their potential until i install an amp?
01-21-2011 08:38 AM
shawbm
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Originally Posted by Pmedg View Post
the deck puts out 50 watts per channel so i wasnt planning on using an amp. im installing it jan 8th. i plan on takingpicture sof the process to post. the deck should provide enough power. if not i will have to look into investing in an amp.

This is not entirely correct, take a look at the following info...

Directly from Crutchfield:

PEAK POWER-

"Peak power is measured during a brief musical burst, such as a sudden drum accent. Some manufacturers display peak power ratings on the face of their products.

The RMS power rating is more significant, and we recommend using it for comparison purposes."

RMS POWER-

The amount of continuous power, measured in watts, that an amplifier produces is called RMS power. The higher the RMS figure, the louder and cleaner your music sounds.

The RMS output figure is preferred to use when comparing different receivers.


Your DUAL receiver produces 17 watts (RMS) per channel, which means you are not utilizing your speakers' capabilities. I have (4) Boston Acoutics SC-55 speakers, two in the dash and two in the soundbar. They are rated at 50 watts RMS, but the only way they will ever continuously reach that level is with the use of an amplifier. I recently purchased the Boston Acoutics GTA-504 (it was on sale) amp. It's a 200 watt, 4 channel amp (50 watts per channel) and though I am dreading the install, it makes having nice speakers worth it because you are reaching their potential.

Hope this gives you some guidance in the future, I learned quite a bit when I researched my new audio set-up too!
01-17-2011 11:18 PM
TJNewbie The plate installs just like the 4x6 speakers with out modifications and sounds soo much better than a 4x6 ever will. I put 5.25" Pioneers in the front in my TJ, but they don't perform to my liking, so I'm gonna change them out with these Infinity Plates. I put a set of 6.5 Sony Explodes 3way speakers in the sound bar and they do sound very good, and they fit without problems.
01-17-2011 11:08 PM
TJNewbie Just my 2 cents worth, if you dont want to cut metal to install speakers in the dash area there's another option, it's called a "plate", here's Infinity's version. and JVC has a deck with the USB & AUX input in the front for $165. if you can use a screwdriver, you can install your own stereo. It's simple and fun.
01-17-2011 10:51 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by JeepnGSXR View Post
... and i also like the guy in the car next to me to hear and feel what im listening to.
Not to be an ass but I have a real problem with people playing their music so loud that I can "hear and feel" what they are listening to when I'm not in their Jeep or car with them. To me, it's like being in a long elevator ride and someone lights up a cigarette... both are being extremely inconsiderate of others who don't want to be "bumped" with someone else's choice of music or smoked out with their second-hand cigarette smoke.

I'm normally a really nice guy but there are few things that bother me more than someone blowing smoke in my face or forcing me to "hear and feel" what they are listening to simply because I just happen to be sitting next to them in my Jeep.
01-17-2011 09:00 PM
JeepnGSXR You all seem pretty knowledgable about stereo systems so I'll ask my question here. I just picked up an 07 wrangler ulimited, as with my past two jeeps I plan on replacing the sytem i know im goin with either a Sony or Pioneer deck with the touch screen and usb input buut im looking for some really solid bass to add along with that. My last Jeep held 2 12'' kenwood kfc-w3012 subs and the old school sony xplod amp. They sat in a sealed box and hit hard. I like crisp clean bass and i also like the guy in the car next to me to hear and feel what im listening to. with that being said does anyone have a suggestion for a possibly louder sytem with a hard hit and no distortion? thanks in advance..
01-10-2011 08:14 AM
Pmedg I am pleased with the way everything came out. not pictured is the blue tooth speaker which i tucked into the dash between the windshield and the heating duck. you can't see it but it works really well. the people I have talked to while using it had no idea i was using the blue tooth function. as far as the overall sound of the stereo it is very clear. It was also very easy to hook my phone up to the desk using the bluetooth feature (HTC Droid Incredible) and music streams very clearly from pandora. it is so much nicer than having wires all over the place. If i had to pick one thing that i am not 100% happy with it is that there is not a lot of bass. however i wasn't expecting too much as the speakers at 5.25". i have been told it also takes about 15-20 hours of use before the speakers perform at their full capacity so maybe that will improve. Hope this will help people who are looking to upgrade their stereo's in the future. I am a complete novice when it comes to things like this and if i can do it anyone can.
01-10-2011 08:05 AM
Pmedg More Pictures
01-10-2011 08:03 AM
Pmedg
Stereo Install Complete

Hi All,
I just wanted to thank you guys for your help with figuring out what i wanted to do stereo-wise in my tj. I got everything installed and thought i would share some pictures i was able to take as well. It took about 4 hours to install the new deck (Dual XDMA6415 $119.99 w/ dash kit and wiring harnesses) dash speakers (Boston Acoustics S55 5.25" @ $55.99) and sound bar speakers (Boston Acoustics S55 5.25" @ $55.99) all purcahsed through Car Audio Stereo - Car Subwoofers - Car Amplifiers and Speakers. The only real issues i ran into were that the antenna cable that connects to the deck was about 6" short so i had to go out and buy an extender ($10 @ Best Buy). and I went through 4 dremel bits to get the support bar cut for the dash speakers. the brackets i bought to make the 5.35" speakers fit in the dash worked perfectly.
12-29-2010 12:49 PM
tinkerjeep ok thats cool thanks
12-29-2010 11:56 AM
Pmedg the deck puts out 50 watts per channel so i wasnt planning on using an amp. im installing it jan 8th. i plan on takingpicture sof the process to post. the deck should provide enough power. if not i will have to look into investing in an amp.
12-29-2010 11:43 AM
tinkerjeep what size amp would you use with that kind of system?
12-29-2010 07:41 AM
Pmedg thanks mike, i did order the speaker adapters.
12-28-2010 09:27 PM
Mike750 6.5" speakers fit perfect in the sound bar and for the dash be sure and get the speaker adapters so the speakers will mount correctly.
12-27-2010 02:12 PM
Pmedg Just wanted to thank everyone for their help with my upgrade. I ended up ordering a Dual XDMA6415 Deck, and 2 Sets of Boston Accoustics S55's for the dash and soundbar. i was leaning toward 6.5" for the sound bar but didnt want to risk them not fitting right. i will take pictures of the install so you can see how it goes.
12-27-2010 09:40 AM
Bodis22
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Originally Posted by Pmedg View Post
Have any of you purchased items from SonicElectronix Car Audio Stereo - Car Subwoofers - Car Amplifiers and Speakers ? for the same items i was going to get at crutchfield for $350 they had for $230. the website looked legit, but i wanted to check and see if anyone has had issues with them. thanks

Look at their feedback and seller info on ebay, they are HUGE. Pretty sure I have purchased stuff there before, but I use my local shop 9 times outta 10 cause they know me well and do good deals for me.
12-27-2010 09:16 AM
Pmedg I am in Quincy Massachusetts...20min south of Boston
12-23-2010 04:38 PM
JimM I put the polk audio speakers in miy 00 sahara last weekend. dxi525 and dxi400, from crutchfield, with the adapters and wiring harnesses.

First time I used the wiring harness, very nice, didn't hafta get out the soldering iron! Whole swap took less than an hour, and (compared to the stock speakers) these things totally rock.

Added satelite radio at the same time, and I'm happy with it.
I'd be happier with a thousand watt system, but for less than $150 and taking up not a single extra square inch of valuable space, it's good.
12-23-2010 04:25 PM
Mike750 Where are you located??
12-23-2010 10:06 AM
Pmedg Have any of you purchased items from SonicElectronix Car Audio Stereo - Car Subwoofers - Car Amplifiers and Speakers ? for the same items i was going to get at crutchfield for $350 they had for $230. the website looked legit, but i wanted to check and see if anyone has had issues with them. thanks
12-22-2010 12:26 PM
Pmedg Wow, good to know. i'll def look into the local spots.
12-22-2010 12:25 PM
Peepers Last time I went to a mom and pop shop their prices before instillation where easily over $30 more than crutchfield, although the cheapest pair of speakers were $160 for some 6x9s... so I've stayed away since then. Circuit city had some great deals when they were going out of business.
12-22-2010 12:24 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Pmedg View Post
... just figured it would be cheaper to order stuff online.
It usually is, just not with Crutchfield. In defense of Crutchfield, they do have a good staff there that offers good advice and that does cost $$$ for them to provide.
12-22-2010 12:24 PM
Ibuildembig You'd be surprised actually...there has never been a time when Crutchfield has beaten a job I have done. 90 percent of your small stereo shops can and will beat pretty much any online retailer.
12-22-2010 12:20 PM
Pmedg I live in Quincy MA at the moment, but never spend any time there accept to sleep so i dont know the area well. I can prob find a spot, just figured it would be cheaper to order stuff online.
12-22-2010 12:15 PM
Ibuildembig Doya not have a mom and pop stereo store where you live?
12-22-2010 12:12 PM
Pmedg thanks for the tip. i will def check out walmart. nothing like saving some $$$. is crutchfield a good place to purchase the brackets i will need? or is there somewhere else you would reccomend?
12-22-2010 12:10 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post
Dual can be purchased at Walmart
And probably for less than what he could buy it from Crutchfield for too. I wouldn't doubt he could get those speakers there too, or at least similar quality speakers with that same >90 dB Sensitivity rating. Crutchfield's pricing is pretty darned high. I think Fry's carries Dual too, and they would also be cheaper than Crutchfield.
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