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12-28-2010 07:05 PM
erinb
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins View Post
Yeah its a mess down there! Another option is to simply run a hot wire right from the battery to your cigarette lighter if you're really needing to use it. Won't be much trouble at all no cutting the stock wiring. the only thing I've.got to say about that is there will be power going to that cig lighter even when the jeep is off. So if you decide to do that just be cautious that if you leave say, an ipod plugged into it overnight it will be draining the battery.( I seriously doubt it could drain it completely but just something to note) for some it might be a plus to not have to have the jeep on to charge stuff. Anyway Goodluck
I just gave up on it for the night. This electric stuff is way over my head, I'll probably have a pro look at it. Thanks for everything!
12-28-2010 06:29 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by erinb

Already tried that, and I found where the relay is in my Jeep, below the steering column. Theres a ton of wires. A TON. In another thread I found that the pink/white cord is to fuse #19, my cig lighter. Not sure if I really want to mess with the relay unless I know exactly what I'm going to do.
Yeah its a mess down there! Another option is to simply run a hot wire right from the battery to your cigarette lighter if you're really needing to use it. Won't be much trouble at all no cutting the stock wiring. the only thing I've.got to say about that is there will be power going to that cig lighter even when the jeep is off. So if you decide to do that just be cautious that if you leave say, an ipod plugged into it overnight it will be draining the battery.( I seriously doubt it could drain it completely but just something to note) for some it might be a plus to not have to have the jeep on to charge stuff. Anyway Goodluck
12-28-2010 06:16 PM
erinb
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins View Post
I got the haynes book.


Erin it shows in the book the fuse for cigarette lighter as number 19 . Mine says 18 on my jeep. Before you mess with / replace the relay check the fuse in the glovebox labeled 19 . It might be labeled wrong, but try a 20 amp fuse in it to be sure.

Np glad to help
Already tried that, and I found where the relay is in my Jeep, below the steering column. Theres a ton of wires. A TON. In another thread I found that the pink/white cord is to fuse #19, my cig lighter. Not sure if I really want to mess with the relay unless I know exactly what I'm going to do.
12-28-2010 06:07 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95

Field service Manuel. You said you would check the book and that seemed like something you would find in the fsm
I got the haynes book.


Erin it shows in the book the fuse for cigarette lighter as number 19 . Mine says 18 on my jeep. Before you mess with / replace the relay check the fuse in the glovebox labeled 19 . It might be labeled wrong, but try a 20 amp fuse in it to be sure.

Np glad to help
12-28-2010 05:49 PM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins

? Fsm
Field service Manuel. You said you would check the book and that seemed like something you would find in the fsm
12-28-2010 05:44 PM
erinb
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins View Post
Make sure you press in hard enough to go through the wire insulation, if you did then and got no volts then there is a fuse problem or relay problem .

I'm sure you checked the fuses like ten times already. So its prolly the relay.

What the relay does is act like a automatic switch. When your key is not in it turns itself off. As soon as you put the key in and turn the jeep on it opens the circuit so let's power go to the cig lighter. So if you've got the jeep on and no power going to the lighter while all the fuses are good then its the relay.

I'm not sure where the relay for the cig lighter is ill take a look in the book

I did press hard enough to get through to the wire. And I actually just went and checked the fuses again, for the 11th time. Deffinately the relay. Thank you for doing this for me.
12-28-2010 05:41 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95
Do you have a fsm bob?
? Fsm
12-28-2010 05:38 PM
jkaufman_95 Do you have a fsm bob?
12-28-2010 05:35 PM
bobjenkins Make sure you press in hard enough to go through the wire insulation, if you did then and got no volts then there is a fuse problem or relay problem .

I'm sure you checked the fuses like ten times already. So its prolly the relay.

What the relay does is act like a automatic switch. When your key is not in it turns itself off. As soon as you put the key in and turn the jeep on it opens the circuit so let's power go to the cig lighter. So if you've got the jeep on and no power going to the lighter while all the fuses are good then its the relay.

I'm not sure where the relay for the cig lighter is ill take a look in the book
12-28-2010 05:23 PM
erinb Well, I checked out the voltmeter on a battery and it worked just fine. On my cigarette lighter, nothing. No power at all. Damn fuses.
12-28-2010 05:18 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95
If you can check your multimeter ( volt checker) on something else first like your battery to make sure it's working. Because I'm assuming your not using a fluke and I don't either.. Its just good to know it's working
Yeah good advice
12-28-2010 05:16 PM
jkaufman_95 If you can check your multimeter ( volt checker) on something else first like your battery to make sure it's working. Because I'm assuming your not using a fluke and I don't either.. Its just good to know it's working
12-28-2010 05:15 PM
erinb
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins View Post
Yeah instead of a light you will see around 12 volts
Alright, I'm gunna go try it out. Let's hope for the best.
12-28-2010 05:09 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by erinb
Thank for the pictures. Will a regular voltage reader work?
Yeah instead of a light you will see around 12 volts
12-28-2010 05:07 PM
erinb Thank for the pictures. Will a regular voltage reader work?
12-28-2010 04:47 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by erinb
Yeah, but I'm not sure how to use it.
Like this. Ground the hook end onto a ground that ground is under the steering wheel but any will work. And on the other end probe into the blue and white stripe wire coming from the cig lighter.

If it lights up that means you're getting power to the cig lighter. That means no fuses are blown and there is an issue with the ground. If it doesn't like up then you've got fuse issues ( or relay issues). Make sure when you test the jeep is on
12-28-2010 04:40 PM
erinb Yeah, but I'm not sure how to use it.
12-28-2010 04:38 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by erinb

Well I followed the wires all the way to this box. then to the second box.... I can't find where it grounds by following it...Any Ideas?
Hmm first it would be helpful to know if its a bad ground or not. Could be the hot side. Do you have a test light?.
12-28-2010 04:09 PM
erinb
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Eek! Goodluck!
Well I followed the wires all the way to this box. then to the second box.... I can't find where it grounds by following it...Any Ideas?



12-28-2010 03:56 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by erinb
Nope, it didnt work. Im about to tear off the dash and check the wiring.
Eek! Goodluck!
12-28-2010 03:38 PM
erinb Nope, it didnt work. Im about to tear off the dash and check the wiring.
12-28-2010 03:30 PM
erinb Alright, I'll check it.
12-28-2010 03:07 PM
bobjenkins There's a fuse under the hood labeled accessories 1 . It's 40amps check that one ( just switch one of the other 40 amp ones and test the cig lighter.(jeep has to be on)
12-28-2010 02:53 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by erinb
so what do I do if the ground is bad? Is it replaceable?
If the grounds bad it just means the wire isn't connected properly to the ground (frame of jeep) . I'm not sure where the ground ground ill take a look in my Hayes manual
12-28-2010 02:43 PM
erinb so what do I do if the ground is bad? Is it replaceable?
12-28-2010 02:28 PM
bobjenkins
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Originally Posted by erinb

Is ground the main wiring? I'm not very car savy.
There are two wires going to the cig lighter on my 03. One is black with white stripe. That's ground. The other is light blue with white stripe, that's positive.

If you've got a test light ground that on the metal behind /under the dash. Turn stick the other end into the positive wire. If the light goes on you've got power , probably means the ground is bad
12-28-2010 02:15 PM
erinb
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins View Post
Try connecting test light to positive then ground it. See if you've got voltage. If you do then its probably a bad ground if I had to guess
Is ground the main wiring? I'm not very car savy.
12-28-2010 02:13 PM
erinb
12-28-2010 02:11 PM
erinb
12-28-2010 02:09 PM
NHrubicon I had a 2000 sahara, cig. lighter in that never worked at all, but the aux. power receptacle did...never did figure it out.
2003 Rubicon-works fine but never got the cig. lighter with it-figured it was power outlet
anyways and that's all it's used for...cellphone charger!
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